PEC Meeting 12/22/2025

Updated about 13 hours ago

The Planning and Environmental Commission (PEC) generally meets on each month's second and fourth Mondays at 1 p.m.

This volunteer board of the Town of Vail is responsible for reviewing planning and environmental issues within the town. The Planning and Environmental Commission (PEC) generally meets on each month's second and fourth Mondays at 1 p.m.

Chapters

Welcome and Introduction (00:00:08)
The meeting commenced with a welcome to all attendees at the Town of Ails Planning and Environmental Commission.

The meeting was called to order with a welcome to all commissioners and attendees present at the regularly scheduled meeting of the Town of Ails Planning and Environmental Commission. It was noted that all commissioners were present except for Commissioners Hagadorn and Litner.
Roll Call (00:00:18)
Roll call was taken, noting the absence of two commissioners, Hagadorn and Litner.

The roll call confirmed the presence of all commissioners except for Commissioners Hagadorn and Litner, who were absent for the meeting.
Major Exterior Alteration Application Discussion (00:00:22)
Discussion on a major exterior alteration application for the Red Line in condominium building in the commercial core district.

The first agenda item was the discussion of a major exterior alteration application for the Red Line in condominium building located within the commercial core one district. The planner for the Town of Vail, Heather Knight, introduced the application submitted by the Red Line Building LLC, represented by Ruther Associates.
Conditional Use Permit Review (00:01:29)
Review of a conditional use permit for an outdoor patio at the Red Line in condominium building.

The meeting continued with the review of a conditional use permit application to allow for an outdoor patio at the Red Line in condominium building, in accordance with the zoning regulations for permitted and conditional uses at street level.
Staff Presentation and Project Overview (00:02:29)
Heather Knight presented an overview of the project, including site details and application types.

Heather Knight provided a detailed presentation of the project, including a vicinity map to locate the property, the types of applications being reviewed, and specific aspects of the proposed exterior alterations and conditional use permit. The presentation also covered logistical concerns such as trash routing and mechanical space clarifications.
Applicant's Presentation and Clarifications (00:06:03)
The applicant's team presented additional details and addressed logistical concerns raised by the commission.

The applicant's team, including representatives from Ruther Associates and Pierce Austin Architects, provided clarifications on the project's details, addressing logistical concerns such as trash routing, mechanical systems, and internal space utilization. They presented diagrams and renderings to illustrate changes and improvements.
Fire Department's Input (00:18:48)
Fire department reviewed the plan for compliance with emergency access and safety regulations.

Deputy Chief Fire Marshal Ryan O provided input on the project's compliance with fire safety regulations, specifically concerning emergency vehicle access and turning movements. The fire department requested additional documentation to ensure all safety requirements are met.
Commissioners' Questions and Discussion (00:20:20)
Commissioners asked questions and discussed various aspects of the project with the applicant team.

The commissioners engaged in a question-and-answer session with the applicant team, seeking clarifications on various aspects of the project, including logistical arrangements, compliance with town codes, and potential impacts on neighboring properties.
Conclusion and Next Steps (00:22:00)
Concluding remarks and outlining the next steps for project approval and implementation.

The meeting concluded with a summary of the discussion and the next steps for the project, including further review by the Design Review Board and additional coordination with town staff and the fire department to ensure all requirements are met before proceeding to construction.
Discussion on Building Alterations and Trash Routing (00:33:37)
Discussion on proposed building alterations, trash routing, and compliance with local guidelines. No changes to chimney or loading and delivery methods.

The discussion focused on proposed changes to the building, highlighting that there would be no alterations to the chimney. The trash and recycling routing was detailed, showing how it would be handled internally without going outside. The design ensures compliance with local guidelines, and no changes to the loading and delivery methods are proposed.
Exterior Alterations and View Corridor Compliance (00:39:03)
Review of exterior alterations to ensure compliance with view corridors and building design. Solutions discussed in joint meeting with residential owners.

The committee reviewed the proposed exterior alterations to the building, ensuring that no view corridors were violated. Discussions with residential owners led to a solution that integrates the roof with the existing structure while maintaining design and structural integrity.
Development Applications and Compliance (00:45:00)
Overview of development applications including major exterior alteration and conditional use permit. Compliance with Vail Village master plan demonstrated.

The session covered various development applications, including a major exterior alteration and a conditional use permit. The compliance with the Vail Village master plan was demonstrated, using it as a guiding document. The proposed alterations do not negatively affect the neighborhood's character.
Conditional Use Permit and Criteria Compliance (00:49:00)
Discussion on conditional use permit compliance, focusing on outdoor dining decks and criteria for CC1 zone district. No known issues with deck operations.

The conditional use permit criteria were discussed, particularly concerning outdoor dining decks. The decks have operated without issues, and if approved, agreements with the Town of Vail will be executed for the use of public right-of-way. The application meets the required criteria for the CC1 zone district.
Public Comment and Applicant Response (01:00:00)
Public comment by Dana Tang expressing concerns over commercial expansion and its impact. Acknowledges efforts to address concerns but highlights ongoing issues.

Dana Tang, a residential unit owner, expressed concerns over the commercial expansion's impact on trash, noise, and mechanical issues. She acknowledged the applicant's efforts to address some concerns but highlighted the significant expansion of commercial space and its implications.
Public Comment on Noise and Trash Concerns (01:05:13)
Public comments were made regarding noise and trash concerns related to a new building development, including requests for noise attenuation and improved trash management.

During this portion of the meeting, members of the public expressed concerns about potential noise and trash issues arising from a new building development. Specific issues included the increased noise from trash carts and the need for noise attenuation measures, such as isolation between commercial spaces and residential bedrooms, and improved windows. Concerns were also raised about the management of trash and the need for a trash study to ensure adequate accommodation.
Public Comment from Oscar Tang (01:12:01)
Oscar Tang commented on historical agreements regarding noise from the Red Lion restaurant and potential issues with proposed changes to the building's layout.

Oscar Tang, a long-time resident and contributor to the Vail community, addressed the meeting to discuss his late wife's involvement in the residential portion of the Red Lion development. He highlighted historical agreements that limited live music to certain areas of the restaurant to prevent noise issues in residential areas. He expressed concerns that proposed changes, placing a restaurant directly under bedrooms, would cause significant noise problems.
Public Comment from Brian Judge (01:18:06)
Brian Judge discussed the challenges and opportunities presented by the building project, emphasizing the need for collaboration on mechanical and trash issues.

Brian Judge, representing Judge and Associates Architects, commented on the building project, praising the Tang family's support for the project. He discussed challenges related to mechanical impacts and trash management, urging collaboration to find solutions. He noted the significant increase in occupant load and trash generation, suggesting that detailed studies and innovative solutions are needed. He also addressed concerns about the building's structural support and the need for sound isolation.
Commissioner Questions and Discussion (01:28:02)
Commissioners asked questions regarding noise agreements, trash management, and residential expansion, and discussed the importance of internal trash routing and soundproofing.

During this agenda item, commissioners asked questions about existing noise agreements, trash collection frequency, and the validity of residential expansion approvals. They discussed the importance of internal trash routing to prevent residential impact and encouraged the applicant to exceed standard soundproofing requirements. The discussion also covered potential conditions related to noise and trash issues.
Commissioner Comment on Application (01:37:00)
Commissioners provided comments on the building application, focusing on trash management, soundproofing, and agreements on music location.

Commissioners provided their comments on the application, emphasizing the need for internal trash routing and enhanced soundproofing measures. They discussed the importance of maintaining agreements on music location to prevent noise issues for residents. The need for collaboration between parties to address these concerns was highlighted, with a commitment to ensuring that the building project meets community standards.
Code Enforcement Ordinance Discussion (01:40:14)
Discussion on code enforcement regarding application support and employee access restrictions.

The commission discussed a code enforcement ordinance issue, encouraging the applicant to enforce gate security and key doors to prevent unnecessary employee access. Support for the application was expressed, with appreciation for public comments and willingness to work with the applicant.
Trash Routing and Noise Concerns (01:41:03)
Concerns about trash routing, noise, and soundproofing were discussed to ensure community benefit.

Commissioners discussed the need to memorialize trash routing to prevent future issues with different operators. Concerns about noise from dumpsters were raised, and suggestions for soundproofing beyond code requirements were made to ensure success for residents and the community.
Applicant's Efforts and Public Comments (01:45:20)
Acknowledgement of applicant's work and public comments, focusing on mechanical exhaust and HOA negotiations.

Commissioners thanked the applicant for addressing concerns from the last meeting, including mechanical exhaust depictions. It was noted that construction standards and HOA negotiations are outside the commission's purview, but the applicant was encouraged to negotiate robustly.
Application Support and Approval Criteria (01:47:02)
General support for the application was expressed, with emphasis on trash and noise concerns.

Commissioners expressed support for the application, emphasizing the importance of addressing trash disposal and noise issues. The applicant was encouraged to ensure soundproofing to avoid potential litigation. The need for compliance with town guidelines for outdoor seating was discussed.
Motions and Voting on Applications (01:57:00)
Motions were made and approved for major exterior alteration and conditional use permit applications.

The commission discussed two proposed motions for a major exterior alteration and a conditional use permit, both containing conditions and findings. The internal trash routing was conditioned to be maintained as shown on plans. Both motions were approved unanimously.
Adjournment and Closing Remarks (02:06:03)
The meeting was adjourned after final motions and closing remarks, including holiday wishes.

The meeting concluded with the approval of minutes from the last meeting, and a motion to adjourn was carried unanimously. Commissioners exchanged holiday wishes before the meeting was officially adjourned.

Vail Planning and Environmental Commission (11 Episodes)

Updated about 13 hours ago

This volunteer board is responsible for making recommendations to the Town Council on proposed legislation, master planning documents and Special Development Districts.