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Garfield County Libraries Board of Trustees - Oct 3, 2024
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  1. Good afternoon and welcome

  2. to Garfield County Public Library trustee meeting

  3. October 3rd here in rifle.

  4. We're happy to have people joining us via Zoom

  5. and people have registered in advance.

  6. So we're just gonna have,

  7. is Nancy you're gonna be doing the Zoom thing

  8. for For questions for the Yes.

  9. Okay. Thank you so much. Call to order please.

  10. Adrian.

    Here.

  11. Michelle? Here. Here.

    Excused.

  12. Here. Susan? Here. Done. Here.

  13. Crystal here.

  14. Okay. Thank you.

  15. This, this next part on our agenda is a public

  16. participation, which is three minutes per person.

  17. One person for three minutes.

  18. Again, if you're on Zoom, if you could just raise your hand

  19. to be acknowledged and then you'll be allowed to do that.

  20. But we are going to take public participation from those

  21. that are physically present here at the meeting

  22. and then we'll go to those that have questions on Zoom.

  23. Okay. Do you have a list of anyone?

  24. Trish O'Grady. Okay.

  25. Alright.

  26. Good afternoon. Trish O'Grady, rifle citizen.

  27. I was here last month

  28. and when Myrna brought up the pledge of Allegiance

  29. and then I spoke about it

  30. and did the pledge, I was really, really disappointed to see

  31. no one here stood up.

  32. Crystal wasn't here.

  33. But that was very concerning to me and very disappointing.

  34. I did notice two employees, I think it was James Larson

  35. and Melissa that stood up

  36. and I find that unacceptable.

  37. It's a tradition, it's patriotic.

  38. And I don't give a darn about the statistics

  39. that you brought James in regards to

  40. how many libraries said the pledge.

  41. You're not. To me it was important

  42. 'cause it shows the dismal respect we have

  43. for our country when we have less

  44. libraries in the state doing the pledge than

  45. not doing the pledge.

  46. So in that way it was very important that you brought it up

  47. 'cause it shows the state of the condition of our

  48. divided nation

  49. that we can't even come together to do the pledge.

  50. And I think that's a sad commentary on this library board

  51. that you chose not to do it

  52. and not even talk about it other than,

  53. oh it's always been policy.

  54. So we'll just keep the policy the same.

  55. That's not good enough Adrian. Not in my opinion it's not.

  56. And I'd like to see that as maybe a question

  57. that they ask new board members when two of you are up for

  58. reelection in December, I'm gonna ask that they add

  59. that along with, once again asking

  60. to put the meetings in the evening.

  61. I understand it's a burden for some staff.

  62. I'm a retired school teacher.

  63. I had those days where I worked all day long school

  64. teaching, then was expected to go

  65. and take tickets at a ball game at six o'clock at

  66. night for no extra pay.

  67. I get it. But that's the commitment.

  68. It's only once a month and they should be in the evening.

  69. 'cause other meetings are, once again, it's partially

  70. for the public and not just for your staff.

  71. You should be able to flex your hours to be able

  72. to come here to give reports.

  73. And now that you're doing Zoom, you don't even have

  74. to be here in person to give a report.

  75. So I'm asking that to be put as an agenda item

  76. that you put the meetings back to the evening,

  77. got 41 seconds left.

  78. And James promoting this event last month at the

  79. youth theater about homosexuality, using library time

  80. to promote an event, talking about

  81. how homosexuality is misconstrued in the Bible it says here,

  82. many times they don't even use the word homosexuality is men

  83. shall not lie with men.

  84. That is biblical. I don't care about the word

  85. homosexuality particular.

  86. And it's not any worse than any other kind

  87. of sexual sin in my opinion.

  88. 'cause God does not discriminate whether it's fornication

  89. or whether adultery or orgy.

  90. It's still sexual perversion

  91. and you should not be using the library to promote that.

  92. Thank you.

  93. Do you have anyone else? Hannah Aza.

  94. Okay.

  95. Hi everyone. Hi Hannah. Welcome to Rifle.

  96. I'm happy you're here today. Let's see.

  97. I came to congratulate libraries overall,

  98. but specifically lift up the awards

  99. that were given at the Colorado Association

  100. or by the Colorado Association Libraries.

  101. There were three of them. And I'm not surprised

  102. 'cause you all have such an outstanding team.

  103. There was the community

  104. or the, I'm sorry, the library partnership

  105. of the year award, which I think related

  106. to the community interviews that you all did.

  107. That was such an interesting and important project.

  108. As a community member. I don't think I've seen a library

  109. participate in something of that nature before.

  110. And I think it was very valuable in informing what type

  111. of programming is offered here.

  112. Of course there is also the outstanding trustee

  113. of the year award and well deserved

  114. and we're so lucky to have you Adrian.

  115. Thank you. And I'm here to

  116. shine the most light on the DEI award.

  117. So this was basically in recognition

  118. of our amazing Spanish services team.

  119. And I wanted to take the bulk of my time

  120. to talk on a personal note about

  121. how their work has impacted at least one household in this

  122. community, which is mine.

  123. And they've done a phenomenal job in terms

  124. of not just expanding Spanish language materials,

  125. but also cultural activities

  126. that benefit the whole community.

  127. And in our case, my husband

  128. and I are both children of bilingual parents.

  129. My husband's mother speaks Spanish

  130. and my father is an immigrant from Germany

  131. and German is his first language.

  132. My husband and I are the generation

  133. who lost our parents' languages.

  134. They intentionally didn't teach us very intentional,

  135. especially my husband's part

  136. 'cause his mother was ostracized

  137. and persecuted in school for speaking Spanish,

  138. which was the language we spoke at home.

  139. So hoping to prevent her son

  140. that same fate she didn't teach him.

  141. And my dad's similar situation, they regret

  142. that decision now, but I think in the eighties there

  143. was no blame to place on them.

  144. And this was a common story.

  145. I think that if maybe their local library had been providing

  146. the cultural and language resources and support

  147. and celebration that we have now

  148. and that we're growing, maybe they would've made different

  149. choices and that would've had a huge impact on us.

  150. And to that end, we're trying

  151. to rectify the chain of events by now.

  152. Bringing home a lot of Spanish materials in an attempt

  153. to teach our own children Spanish

  154. and hope that we're the only generation

  155. that loses a language

  156. and that our children can be multilingual.

  157. So thank you so much for everything you do.

  158. Thank you Emma. John Nki.

  159. My name is John Lukowski

  160. and I'm a homeowner in Silk, Colorado.

  161. Speaking of heritage, I'm a third generation immigrant.

  162. All my four grandparents came from Poland, 1905,

  163. Switch to English.

  164. Little bit of Spanish as I spoke is number three.

  165. Next subject. This is an article that you wrote.

  166. It got published the 23rd and I think you forgot something.

  167. We presented about a year ago, 1200 signatures

  168. that people were against having books in at low levels

  169. so children could reach them.

  170. Children. I believe the description up to minor, up

  171. to 17 years old, there's 12 year olds

  172. that can reach every top shelf in the library.

  173. I suggest put 'em behind glass.

  174. Every library has a capability.

  175. Put a put you 30 to a hundred books

  176. or whatever there behind glass.

  177. And just to sign adults, we're not trying to ban any book,

  178. we're not trying to burn any book.

  179. Even though we might have thought about it.

  180. And as Commissioner Mike Sampson said,

  181. these books are trash.

  182. He was reprimanded for that.

  183. And I'll agree with him being a teacher, a father,

  184. former principal, some of these books are trash

  185. and I don't know what kind of a mind would like 'em.

  186. The people that want these books everywhere,

  187. I don't think they've seen them.

  188. And you just try to show it to 'em.

  189. They don't want to see 'em. Like the

  190. Finder Prison School.

  191. Faithless the boys slash and kill tent count.

  192. And with Trish at one of the events at the fairgrounds,

  193. 11 or 12 year olds know about these books.

  194. Now you said no one's ever taken out.

  195. No child has ever taken out a book.

  196. Well, they're not stupid. They're not gonna take 'em home

  197. and get caught by the parents having these obscene,

  198. pornographic, disgusting books.

  199. They're gonna look at 'em and put 'em back on the shelf.

  200. One thing I like to mention is

  201. what let's all the pilots in the world,

  202. international pilots speak English.

  203. I was a pilot flying into Lima, Peru

  204. and the Russian talking English.

  205. So why don't we all speak English? Do we need translators?

  206. I'm more of a minority than a minority so called Hispanics.

  207. I've nothing against it.

  208. I have have Spanish friends and I speak some Spanish.

  209. I have no prejudice against 'em whatsoever.

  210. But let's all speak one language. Thank you.

  211. Do we have any, any other Ed Grisel? Okay.

  212. Okay.

  213. Hello everybody. I'm so happy to be here in

  214. what I consider my library.

  215. Welcome everybody.

  216. Being a regular library patron, it is time to say thank you.

  217. My friends and others

  218. around town appreciate the home bound services program

  219. that the library has.

  220. Cindy Maria and other librarians.

  221. Any librarian seems to know what the other one is doing.

  222. I, it's, I always find help when I come, no matter

  223. what kind of help I want.

  224. But especially Cindy and Maria are keeping books

  225. and other media accessible to those

  226. who are less mobile than than I am.

  227. I live at senior housing

  228. and they can,

  229. A patron can order a book or call them

  230. and tell them what they want

  231. or tell them to bring a selection and,

  232. and the, the librarians will help them pick a book.

  233. Once they get to know one another, then I'm sure

  234. that there's all kinds of

  235. recommendations going back and forth.

  236. Not only is it a source for reading materials and media,

  237. but it's making a new friend, making a contact

  238. and being part of the community even if you don't

  239. drive or fly.

  240. So we really appreciate that. Let's see.

  241. Another feature I'm using a lot is

  242. the remote printer.

  243. So that I can, I'm mastering my cell phone

  244. and when something comes in my email that I need printed,

  245. I can jump on the phone.

  246. Next thing I know I can walk down to the library

  247. and pick up my document.

  248. And I'm really proud of myself for mastering the technology,

  249. but I wouldn't have been able

  250. to do it without the librarians.

  251. So thank you. The library is my happy place.

  252. I meet friends, discuss books, cooking,

  253. which I do very little of.

  254. But I actually mastered some new recipes

  255. thanks to a librarian.

  256. We talk computers, we talk community events.

  257. The Hispanic Heritage Day was big fun for me.

  258. I stayed all day and I took part in,

  259. or I heard a lot of the music, visited with friends,

  260. visited with all the nonprofits that are doing

  261. so much in our community and enjoyed the food trucks.

  262. I wanna thank everyone who put that on

  263. because I know that it was a lot of work.

  264. So thank you. That's it.

  265. Thank you Deb. Okay, that that's all.

  266. Okay, thank you all.

  267. The next thing on our under call

  268. to order is approval of the agenda.

  269. Adrian, did we have anybody comments on Zoom? Oh sorry.

  270. Do we have any comments on Zoom? Thank you for reminding.

  271. Oh, okay. We do not.

  272. So we just try to keep getting better on

  273. how we're doing this and And thanks for reminding me.

  274. Approval for the agenda. Move to approve the agenda. Okay.

  275. I second. It's been moved in. Seconded. Any discussion?

  276. All in favor? Aye. Opposed?

  277. Okay, we have an agenda

  278. and the next thing on the agenda is the consent agenda,

  279. which is consistent of A

  280. and B minutes of last month's meeting

  281. and claims for board approval for the general fund

  282. and Alpine credit card statement.

  283. And that is also an A vote.

  284. I move to approve the consent agenda.

  285. Okay, I second it. Susan. Seconds.

  286. Okay. It's been moved and seconded. Any discussion? Okay.

  287. All in favor?

  288. Aye.

    Opposed?

  289. Okay, so we're going to be moving right along

  290. to our action items

  291. and who's gonna be doing this?

  292. This'll be John. John

  293. Back again.

  294. And we're glad to see you again

  295. and it's good to see James here again.

  296. You are welcome.

    Thank you.

  297. Yeah. So I have the privilege today to bring

  298. to you a vendor selection recommendation

  299. and Garfield County Public Libraries continue its efforts to

  300. beautify our buildings as it focuses on our long range plan.

  301. And the purpose statement under this initiative is

  302. as follows, enhancing library facilities

  303. by remodeling libraries to implement new technologies,

  304. improve accessibility, increase usage,

  305. and create collaborative spaces

  306. to promote community engagement.

  307. So that's like our mission statement as we focus on all

  308. of our library buildings for the next couple years.

  309. And as you also know,

  310. we are currently working on Parachute and New Castle.

  311. We are doing a lot of planning.

  312. Things are starting to move forward into

  313. construction near the end of this year.

  314. And so we're getting ready for the next two libraries

  315. and those will be rifle and SILT branches.

  316. As with any large project, the first step is

  317. to create a detailed plan that will meet the needs of staff

  318. workflow, improved patron experience, technology upgrades,

  319. and effective energy savings solution.

  320. So today we'd like to propose to the board

  321. the company Hopkins Architecture, LLC.

  322. They are an architectural

  323. and design firm based out of Vail, Colorado.

  324. And the cost for their services

  325. as it states in their proposal is total fee

  326. for schematic scoping phase inclusive of sub consultants

  327. is 18,000 to 25,000, not

  328. to exceed $25,000.

  329. And the proposal includes the following,

  330. complete a schematic scoping phase

  331. with a qualified team consisting of firms

  332. that oversee structural lighting, acoustics,

  333. professional organization solutions, civil engineering

  334. and landscape design.

  335. They'll also assess and prioritize needs, propose realistic

  336. and cost-effective solutions

  337. and create clear delineated scopes of work.

  338. They'll also create concept schematic design, drawings

  339. and narratives for each of the individual design tasks

  340. and engage local contractors

  341. or cost estimators for construction estimating.

  342. And a special note about this proposal is that it serves

  343. as a contract for the schematic phase only.

  344. Okay. So once it's complete and scopes are clarified

  345. and prioritized, Hopkins will work with the district

  346. to agree on fixed fees for future phases.

  347. So what we're talking about is the design and the plan

  348. and based off of these past couple projects,

  349. that's usually the most, the one that takes the the longest.

  350. What color are the walls? What color are the carpet?

  351. What kind of furniture talking the needs of the building.

  352. So it takes a long time to decide on the plan once this

  353. phase is complete, the other plans, you know, are according

  354. to our what we want our design.

  355. So they're not as long.

  356. So this one takes quite a bit of time

  357. and we really wanted to work with a company that has a lot

  358. of experience and who is qualified.

  359. And we believe that company is is Hopkins architecture.

  360. So that'll flow into our reasons for choosing Hopkins.

  361. Number one is previous in-depth study experience.

  362. So Hopkins was awarded the contract in 2021

  363. to provide Garfield County public Libraries a detailed

  364. facilities master plan.

  365. I don't know if you guys took a look at

  366. that when it was released in 2021,

  367. but it goes across all six buildings.

  368. Looking at the infrastructure, it looks at

  369. wow like everything.

  370. And it was to serve the library in the next 10 years

  371. as far as like what we want to upgrade,

  372. what we want to change.

  373. So it was a great master plan

  374. and that was the, the company that

  375. that organized this for the library.

  376. So that's why we feel like they would be a great fit

  377. for the next two libraries

  378. 'cause they've already been in our buildings.

  379. The second reason is a skillful team.

  380. As I previously mentioned, the firms

  381. involved carry an immense amount

  382. of experience in construction and building development.

  383. And also the Hopkins architecture.

  384. LLC also carries specific library

  385. projects experience.

  386. They also did the bail public library

  387. and the Pickin county library as far as working with them

  388. to update their buildings.

  389. And then last reason is the price.

  390. This particularly large phase of of,

  391. of the project is within a very fair price range

  392. that fits our budget.

  393. So that's what I'd like to present to the board.

  394. If you guys have any questions at this time,

  395. Do you have a proposed time timeframe?

  396. Like if it's approved today, how long does it take them?

  397. We will start communicating with them

  398. after we get your okay on this and start that conversation.

  399. So we would like to start, do you have an idea on?

  400. Well right now we're just gonna talk with them

  401. and seeing how they can start this specific phasing project.

  402. Okay. We're not talking about construction begin beginning,

  403. But this has to come first.

  404. Right, right. Okay. Yeah.

  405. This is where we begin a round of meetings with them

  406. to kind of follow on the design.

  407. Yeah, that's what, I guess

  408. that was my question. It's just the time. That

  409. Would be time.

  410. As soon as their ability availability

  411. Is and they have, they indicated that they can start like

  412. Our, so they were kind of carving the fallout for us.

  413. So I think the timing is good for them. Okay. Okay.

  414. They don't have much else on their plate right now.

  415. Well that's good. I'm sure it's seasonal

  416. too and that sort of thing. Okay.

  417. So I say it's a relatively local

  418. Colorado firm, which is good.

  419. Were there other bids to compare this two?

  420. We did not compare it to other bids.

  421. And I think the reason why it's time,

  422. like it takes a long time to find a company like this

  423. and we kind of compared it to our, the Parachute

  424. and Newcastle.

  425. It took a a while for us to, to find the right people

  426. and we kind of wanted to, to save time

  427. and to know that this per this company is already

  428. experienced with the library.

  429. So it felt like a good fit.

  430. But to answer your question directly, we did not take time

  431. to look at other companies as well.

  432. I did talk about that Kevin A. Little bit.

  433. My, my sense of this one is that when we first started

  434. with this, we were looking for some we thought could go

  435. quickly and been working with Beth Odale

  436. and a different architect and I thought to make sure

  437. that we can keep both of these

  438. projects kind of moving forward.

  439. They had the depth of experience,

  440. they had done the analysis of the building.

  441. Originally we did a walkthrough

  442. and they were very, could get up to speed pretty quickly.

  443. So I feel like we're okay on this one, that we're still kind

  444. of looking at the market and trying to spread the money

  445. around across various architects. Yep.

  446. And there's, yeah, there's a real benefit

  447. to having worked with a firm before.

  448. Yeah. And if you know prices from doing it

  449. with a different recent project that can make sense.

  450. Certainly do wanna make sure that we're verifying that.

  451. Good question.

    So was there a schematic phase for the

  452. Parachute and Newcastle?

  453. Yeah. And who

    Did, who

  454. Did that?

  455. That was Beth O'Neill. Okay.

  456. She is a consultant in library organization

  457. and she was the one that was helping us with all

  458. of those questions and designs.

  459. And so that did take a while, but it was very similar.

  460. We had a timeframe of just answering all those questions,

  461. verifying what we wanted and what we needed.

  462. Yeah. That, that took place

  463. for parachute in Newcastle as well.

  464. But you prefer Hopkins?

  465. Well it, well I think going, kind of going

  466. what Jamie says they're, they're currently doing those two

  467. libraries kind of wanted to bring it.

  468. Okay. Yeah. Sorry.

    Project new architect. Yeah,

  469. Yeah, yeah.

  470. Got okay. Thank you. Okay.

  471. This is an action item. Yeah,

  472. It's, yep.

  473. I make a motion. We approve

  474. the proposal John just presented to us

  475. and I'm looking for the company.

  476. Oh, to go ahead with Hopkins Architecture. LLC

  477. Second.

  478. Okay. It's been moved and seconded

  479. to approve Whitney Hopkins, architect

  480. for the rifle and SILT projects.

  481. Okay. Any, any further discussion? Okay.

  482. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Opposed? Okay.

  483. Congratulations. You tell call

  484. 'em up and tell 'em to get going.

  485. Thank you. Thank you all very much.

  486. All right. Architect time is like on a different time zone

  487. than us all together, so it's good to have multiples. Yeah.

  488. Okay. Jamie?

  489. Yes. So on pages 14 through 16 in your packet, it occurred

  490. to me that you have seen as we have met at,

  491. at various meetings where I presented mind maps

  492. and some of the discussion about

  493. what we learned from our community interviews.

  494. But I don't think we ever got around to adopting it.

  495. So I thought what I would do is I put in my management

  496. report kind of beginning with this BUILD community

  497. and most of the things that you're seeing in this

  498. come from our community interviews,

  499. particularly under the build community

  500. and the Spanish services.

  501. But just for those kind of listening in unique to us, things

  502. that weren't clearly identified in those interviews.

  503. Early literacy. And I feel like this is a primary focus

  504. for libraries, our facilities,

  505. because of course not everybody was

  506. concerned about our facilities.

  507. That's our job. And then the last one

  508. was kind of building our workforce.

  509. So again, the board has seen previous

  510. versions of this as a mind map.

  511. And I wanna call out the fact

  512. that this long range plan is a framework that is

  513. to say we're gonna keep tweaking with the words.

  514. We met with our kind of young adult group to talk about one

  515. of our goals here was every child ready to read by age five.

  516. And people pointed out we're probably not gonna achieve

  517. that, that some children are not going

  518. to be ready by age five.

  519. But it's an aspirational goal.

  520. So as time moves on, we're gonna be playing with these kind

  521. of tweaking some of the language.

  522. And Nancy and I have been working on a monthly update.

  523. So once you adopt this framework going forward every month,

  524. we'll give you kind of a two, three page overview.

  525. Here's what's changed since the last one.

  526. So the help, the hope here is

  527. that we get accountable about these big goals

  528. that the library is trying to accomplish.

  529. So with that, happy to take any questions

  530. 'cause I think we should sign off on this as kind

  531. of the key focus for three, the next three to five years.

  532. Jamie, my question is thought the early literacy number

  533. one, and you said most people will not reach by five.

  534. No, I didn't say most people. I said I some people

  535. will not reach well

  536. Some people And that's, that is

  537. as an early educator,

  538. that's number five H five's an arbitrary number

  539. that was made by somebody

  540. that decided their child should read by age five.

  541. I'd like that eliminated. It's not anything we can measure.

  542. And instead what will help

  543. and what we can do for reading red readiness is

  544. to provide read aloud books

  545. and books on their reading level.

  546. And that will give them tools

  547. and the the, it'll give 'em the tools

  548. and the literacy

  549. and the language they'll need to be competent readers.

  550. And with that comes number four, the community awareness.

  551. I think if we just have an awareness of, for parents,

  552. if you read to these, the studies do support the statement,

  553. if you read to your children 30 minutes a day, that will

  554. make 'em very likely to be readers.

  555. When they get into first grade in Denmark,

  556. they don't even start reading formal reading education

  557. until seven years old.

  558. Oh really? Yeah.

  559. And at age 10 is one of the book is one

  560. of the cornerstones that up

  561. to age 10 they're learning to read.

  562. And at age 10, if they can't read, then they

  563. probably can't read or will have a big problem.

  564. So I would, I do want to eliminate this age five

  565. and put in a statement that we, that's not measurable,

  566. but that we can do, you know, we can provide books

  567. and read alouds, et cetera.

  568. And we can com educate 30 minutes a day is all it takes.

  569. So I would, I propose that that is changed.

  570. Would you be happy with just changing that word every

  571. No, I wouldn't be happy with any word that says age five.

  572. Okay. Well one thing

  573. I was thinking when I was reviewing this long range plan,

  574. how, how, and I wanted to bring up some of these things

  575. that we're, we have to plan,

  576. which is the next thing on the agenda.

  577. The Dolly Parton Imagination Library.

  578. That's the whole purpose of that

  579. that we're gonna be discussing today.

  580. Did you get a chance to read that? Yes. Okay.

  581. So that that was putting Yeah, that's great. Yeah.

  582. Putting a a for $1 for Linda on 5 cents

  583. or something for each child.

  584. I mean that these again are are,

  585. are not set in stone though.

  586. I don't think. They're just, they're, some

  587. of these are aspirational, you know, we want to do this.

  588. It's not like we're gonna achieve

  589. each and every one of them.

  590. But I mean, is that right? These are not like we're gonna,

  591. I I think I've already lost my battle for that one

  592. with the, the youth services people.

  593. And so I, I and Nancy, I can't remember what that,

  594. what we've replaced that with,

  595. but it's something along the lines of preparing children for

  596. to for reading readiness before school.

  597. So they've eliminated that five Yeah. Age five. So

  598. So number one has been already been eliminated or

  599. Yeah.

  600. rather than being concerned about the specific wording on

  601. everything here, because you're gonna see changes, right?

  602. I'm looking at the approval of the structure.

  603. So even if we maybe not say it's, it's not by age five,

  604. but it's like zero through five is our primary concentration

  605. because it's before school.

  606. Beyond that, we already have our collections,

  607. we have story times, we have other stuff.

  608. But this is just trying to concentrate on

  609. that early literacy age.

  610. Yeah. And these are, this is a, a living document.

  611. It's gonna be changing, it's organic in that week to week.

  612. Yeah. You know, I understand it's gonna be changed,

  613. but I would not be able to sign off on anything that,

  614. number one, I cannot give an I vote for that and number and,

  615. and number four, the is 30 minutes a day.

  616. That's all you have. That's the big message to parents read

  617. to your child 30 minutes a day and that's short.

  618. You know, 30 minutes a day that fits on a poster.

  619. I think that's something that would fit within that goal.

  620. But I think that there are other things that we're doing

  621. as well about that.

  622. Such as grow up community.

  623. Yeah, I see. It's the rhyming it's songs,

  624. it's the puppet shows. It's the

  625. Story times.

  626. I puppet number four and and you're right.

  627. That's all language. You're right. That's all. And and yes.

  628. 30 minutes a day you can, anything

  629. where you're watching a puppet show,

  630. you're singing, you're rhyming.

  631. I I did reading. But yes. You can read a poem Yeah.

  632. And sing a song. And that's all clustered at

  633. The same Well I'm, I'm more than happy just to draw

  634. through that every Garfield child

  635. be ready to read by age five.

  636. You'll see a version of

  637. however we've amended this in our next meeting.

  638. Yeah. So that's not gonna be included.

  639. Correct. Already been changed.

  640. It's already been changed. And what about number four?

  641. Again, I would just say

  642. that I think this is the broader goal

  643. and as we get into things like specific activities, one

  644. of the things we're talking about is the,

  645. I'm gonna forget the name of the program.

  646. What's the a thousand books by age five?

  647. It might be something like that. But there's a national

  648. program that says like, you come in as early as we can

  649. and we get you signed up and we try to get you to read five

  650. or read a thousand books.

  651. Yeah. And so it's like, that's one

  652. of these sub goals under that as an activity.

  653. But I feel like what you're suggesting is specific

  654. and it falls under this goal,

  655. but I don't think it replaces it.

  656. Okay. I have a comment.

  657. So this is a really ambitious plan. Yeah.

  658. And I have a question for number four. Okay.

  659. Increased community awareness.

  660. And when we talk about increasing community awareness,

  661. talking about different languages

  662. and talking about Spanish, how are we gonna,

  663. how are you gonna make sure that we increase that when

  664. I've been probably for two years talking about

  665. communications in Spanish?

  666. 'cause I wanna make sure that when we say that it's,

  667. it's not only in a, in a paper doesn't only looks good,

  668. but we are really working on it

  669. and not putting more work for the stuff they,

  670. they already have a lot of work to do

  671. and adding more things just because it looks good in paper.

  672. So I just wanna make sure that

  673. we are really strategic about this.

  674. And I feel like one, one of the ways I think we're trying

  675. to get at this is like, you know, take

  676. for instance our partnership with raising a reader

  677. and the whole do parton thing.

  678. In addition, one of the things

  679. that it seems like we're learning, whether it's

  680. for English speakers

  681. or for Spanish speakers, it's really helpful us for us

  682. to make a value statement about why

  683. we provide the service at all.

  684. So to say, you know, just to say to, you know, you

  685. as a mother, if you come home with 25 books

  686. and you read all those, those books to your child,

  687. that's a huge investment in the brain of your child.

  688. And so that's the kind of awareness that I'm talking about

  689. where it's just not just the skills, not just the books,

  690. but calling out why it's such a powerful and useful thing.

  691. Give people a value statement.

  692. Jamie, would you give me an example

  693. of increased community awareness?

  694. Sure. Let's say all the advertisement that goes in

  695. around summer reading program.

  696. You know, so you might say you've got a child

  697. that's in school and is struggling with reading

  698. and they're all caught up in the skills,

  699. but we want you to come and read as many books in the summer

  700. for fun because that's gonna help you learn to, instead

  701. of learning to read, it's reading

  702. to learn learning and reading for fun.

  703. And so that's like just the general awareness

  704. of why literacy matters

  705. Going back and it couldn't be songs, puppet shows,

  706. et cetera, 30 minutes a day.

  707. I think if you give the message 30 minutes a day,

  708. that's easy for a parent to digest.

  709. It's easy for a young parent who

  710. doesn't even know to read to their child,

  711. they don't even know.

  712. Yeah. And if, if, if,

  713. and we can give an easy message

  714. 30 minutes a day, they're like, oh, okay.

  715. Really? And you'd be, you'd be very surprised

  716. at the parents that do not understand the power

  717. of reading to your child.

  718. And it doesn't stop when they can decode words. Right.

  719. You read until they tell you to quit. You know?

  720. And that might be a long time.

  721. I wanna see number four a little more specific.

  722. It's just kind of vague to me.

  723. Well, and and that's the purpose of it, is

  724. to be a little vague because it's a long range plan.

  725. And so we're gonna have all the specifics as we do.

  726. We're not looking to approve every single word, you know,

  727. that's in this document.

  728. He just wants to, we, we spent a whole day going

  729. through all these and so forth.

  730. And I think what Jamie's asking,

  731. and correct me if I'm mistaken,

  732. but I think he's asking us to, to formally approved,

  733. but we've already committed verbally at our meeting

  734. that we agreed to these specific

  735. bullet points based upon that community interview.

  736. And I think what you're gonna find is like the very broad

  737. goals like foster early literacy

  738. and one is, that's the big broad one.

  739. And then the four you're seeing here is kind

  740. of our next level down to say here's our kind

  741. of strategies for this.

  742. But what you're gonna be seeing in the next meetings coming

  743. up, you know, Susan would be something like calling out a

  744. specific activity, right.

  745. Then we'll say, this is what we did for that

  746. and that's gonna change and

  747. we're gonna try a lot of different things.

  748. So I'm asking for a little bit of grace

  749. to say we'll be filling in the details as we go along,

  750. but I'm looking for you to bless the infrastructure of it.

  751. Kel,

  752. I,

    Sorry, I have another question, Claudia.

  753. How many people are connected

  754. to the interpretations right now?

  755. That's another proof of community awareness

  756. because we have a service right now that is not being used.

  757. Right? Because the community has not been informed.

  758. So that's, that's another, well some

  759. Of the community has been informed,

  760. but it's gonna take a while.

  761. How, how was it informed?

    Well, it was in one

  762. of my newspaper articles.

  763. It was, it's on the website. It's

  764. On the website,

    It's on the agenda listed

  765. In our minutes that we're

    Discussing.

  766. Once again, that's community awareness.

  767. When we're talking about Spanish interpretation,

  768. that's a cultural piece

  769. that we are missing When we're talking

  770. about community awareness.

  771. What do you suggest? We should

  772. What?

  773. Yeah, what do you suggest?

  774. I've been saying this for two years.

  775. It is a different, pardon me?

  776. I didn't say anything. Oh,

  777. I heard something.

  778. I've been saying this. We need different

  779. ways of communications.

  780. It has to be not in a newspaper, an English newspaper

  781. has to be, and in the way the Latino community consumes

  782. information, when they pay taxes,

  783. when they pay those taxpayers, doesn't, doesn't matter

  784. what language they speak, we they, they still pay taxes

  785. that comes to the library.

  786. They need to be served. That's, that's my only comment.

  787. Yeah, that's, that's, that's again, one

  788. of our very specific things

  789. that we call out here is reaching out to

  790. the Hispanic community here and you know,

  791. and that's again, I'm not gonna have in one of these all

  792. of the ways that we're gonna try to communicate.

  793. And frankly, I think that in the long run,

  794. the most powerful way we do,

  795. it's gonna be one-to-one communication.

  796. We do the radio shows in

  797. Spanish where we're talking about this.

  798. There are story times we're letting people know about we're

  799. wanting them to come, but it's gonna take some time.

  800. Well, and also what was this, it was in your report,

  801. I believe your management report about

  802. having every li and in every library there's,

  803. or you know, increasing more Spanish, I mean upfront people,

  804. you know, in the, in the branches, branch managers.

  805. I'm asking you to,

  806. I can't remember exactly what you're referring

  807. to in this particular report,

  808. but it's certainly the case that we're trying

  809. to increase the general story times, right.

  810. Which happens both in English and

  811. Spanish and, and to Crystal's point about, you know, like,

  812. I can't think of what the word is right now,

  813. but you know, if somebody has the Spanish skills

  814. and is speaking Spanish, then they could,

  815. they they get a a stipend.

  816. A stipend for that. And that was that's good.

  817. I I think could you give a report on that,

  818. how that's working or

  819. Yeah, we actually talked about that.

  820. They have it off the top of your head faster than I do.

  821. Yeah. Excuse me.

  822. So when we look at the number of our frontline staff

  823. and how many of those are currently

  824. getting the Spanish stipend

  825. because they've gone through the assessment, it's about 17%

  826. of our frontline staff.

  827. Our goal is that we work closely represent the county.

  828. So building towards 30%.

  829. So we have a staff of about 95 people at any given time.

  830. So we like closer to that 30% mark

  831. And, and now it's, what what's that? What is it currently

  832. When I just look at our frontline staff,

  833. which is I I'll put that about 65 people.

  834. Okay. That's not including like your administration team or,

  835. or substitute librarians.

  836. So we're about like 17% right now of, and

  837. and I also say that we have a couple

  838. of Spanish speaking staff who haven't gone

  839. through the assessment for various reasons.

  840. So I feel like that number could go up a little bit.

  841. I wanna say within, within two years.

  842. Not bad that's half of the staff but work to be done. Yeah.

  843. Thank you. Okay.

  844. This is an action item.

  845. Okay. I'll

  846. move to approve the infrastructure

  847. of the long range draft.

  848. Specifically to include the five bullet points in bold

  849. with direction to provide an updated draft

  850. with revisions to include removing

  851. ready to read by H five.

  852. Add some specifics in community awareness

  853. about reading 30 minutes a day

  854. and about providing awareness to the Hispanic community

  855. to the Spanish speaking community

  856. of the services that are provided.

  857. I second the motion. Okay. It's been moved and seconded.

  858. Any further discussion? Okay. All in favor? Aye. Aye.

  859. Opposed? Okay,

  860. Very

    Much.

  861. Would you then just kind of segue into the dolly?

  862. I had to look at that when I went Dolly part in imagination.

  863. I thought it was an interesting name

  864. and I didn't exactly know what to expect,

  865. but why don't you take it over.

  866. This is a, a initiative that was kicked up by Dal Parton

  867. and then she kind of built a big awareness around this

  868. and they went around to a number of states

  869. around the United States

  870. and had begun to offer this program.

  871. The Colorado State Library once had it

  872. and now I think it's moved over to the Department

  873. of Early Education.

  874. But the idea is that the foundation provides

  875. and with some matching money from the state,

  876. a dollar 10 per child per book that's sent out.

  877. And what they were looking for is

  878. to find a local coordinator, not-for-profit raising.

  879. A reader reached out to us

  880. and they said, we love this program,

  881. happy to sign up for it.

  882. We would love to be the coordinator for Garfield County

  883. and we'll do the recruitment.

  884. We're already signing kids up for this,

  885. but we are looking for some guarantee

  886. that other half of the money.

  887. And so for us, I figured out that for a year,

  888. assuming we can really aggressively kind

  889. of grow this program, the cost

  890. to us might be something like $15,000 a year.

  891. And so this is just, I went to Jan

  892. and I said, I want to give you $15,000

  893. in your collection budget.

  894. Some of which is now there now including

  895. Spanish titles as well.

  896. And say, so every child who signs up

  897. for this will then receive from ages zero through five,

  898. sorry Susan, that they will get one book a

  899. month until they turn 50.

  900. So that's 60 books, that's the beginning of a library.

  901. And again, one of the things that we've learned

  902. through research is that you get books in the mail

  903. and it's like you start to look forward to it.

  904. Like this

    Is very exciting kind of stuff.

  905. So I feel like this is an opportunity for us

  906. to really promote early literacy,

  907. not just in all the traditional ways we've done it,

  908. but you're giving every child that signs up a book

  909. Every month and it comes in the mail,

  910. It comes in the mail,

    The parents will be happy too.

  911. 'cause it's a book and not a bill. Yeah.

  912. So I I, you know, raising a reader has been,

  913. they've been great partners for us all.

  914. They really do a lot to help us make these

  915. communications across the community.

  916. And so it feels like this is

  917. the right thing for us to be doing. Yeah.

  918. Jamie and I agree with you.

  919. I have a question about this one little

  920. part of the sentence.

  921. It's about Susan Wheeler.

  922. She already signs up many Spanish

  923. speaking children to the program.

  924. Is she signing up English speaking children

  925. Or,

    That's a good question.

  926. I don't know. That's pretty much what,

  927. the way she phrased it to me when she does the Spanish

  928. speaking story times, that's

  929. where she has been signing people up.

  930. I don't think she's been doing it.

  931. I don't think she does English story times.

  932. Does she? Not that I know of. Are

  933. English speaking kids being signed up for this program?

  934. Well, they will be now. Now.

    Okay.

  935. Okay. And action item.

    Yeah, that's, that's

  936. Good.

  937. I move that we approve the Dolly Parton Imagination Library

  938. agreement with raising a reader.

  939. Second. Second. Moved and seconded. Any discussion? Okay.

  940. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Opposed? Okay,

  941. I'll get that off to Susan.

  942. Suzanne.

  943. Okay, thank you. We have a presentation by Alicia

  944. with the Colorado River Valley Economic

  945. Development Partnership.

  946. You might remember her from last year

  947. and she's here to give us an update.

  948. And All this is so relative to me as an individual,

  949. but also from the Economic Development Partnership.

  950. Thank you for coming to rifle. First of all, welcome back.

  951. I am a rifle resident and privileged

  952. and lucky enough

  953. to serve on the Rifle City Council just across the way here.

  954. So very invested in the community here.

  955. I was here about a year ago, almost a year ago.

  956. And it was at the very, very early stages of the partnership

  957. as we like to call it now.

  958. Or the EDP is catching on a lot too, I feel like.

  959. And I have the ability to sit here today

  960. because of the generosity

  961. and faith that groups such as the library had in us

  962. as a, in our infancy we like to call it.

  963. We've now reached our toddlerhood, I think

  964. tripping over ourselves a bit more and,

  965. and starting to speak up a bit more by contributing

  966. to the organization the EDP in 2024.

  967. So firstly, thank you for that.

  968. I, I do feel like there's a been a good return on investment

  969. and I'm here today to give you a, a overview of

  970. what we've achieved and,

  971. and some of the outcomes we have in the last year.

  972. I will say that, you know, this is,

  973. economic development is an interesting concept.

  974. I'm don't have a degree in economics.

  975. I know how to balance my house budget,

  976. but there there's a lot of factors that contribute to it.

  977. And even just back to what you're just talking about,

  978. I can personally give you feedback on the

  979. Dolly Parton Imagination Station.

  980. It is amazing.

  981. I they actually brought it to Garfield County,

  982. I'm gonna say three years ago because I have a 4-year-old

  983. and 18 month old and it wasn't available

  984. to all zip codes at first.

  985. And, and when I saw that it was available to our zip code,

  986. I immediately signed my eldest daughter up.

  987. And then as soon as, literally I was in the hospital

  988. after my second was born and I signed her up

  989. because it is literally a book a month.

  990. They're wonderful books. They do come, most of them do

  991. in both English and Spanish, so you can read both.

  992. And they, my both my kids are

  993. so excited every time they get something addressed

  994. to them in the mail and we read those books all the time.

  995. So it is a fantastic program.

  996. I appreciate you getting involved with that.

  997. So, and there, so there is English speaking kids signing

  998. up for it too in our area.

  999. I tell everybody about it.

  1000. So, and then also on your long range plan, I noticed one

  1001. of the sections was economic development.

  1002. And I bring this back to, to what we're doing is

  1003. it's not about always just about revenue

  1004. and income and expenses.

  1005. I know the library is, a lot

  1006. of the funding does come from sales tax.

  1007. So that is kind of one of our goals.

  1008. But something I've learned over the past year is,

  1009. is everybody is interconnected in our region.

  1010. And for those who don't know, our,

  1011. our organization is focusing on Western Garfield County.

  1012. So Newcastle, silt, rifle Parachute and Battlement Mesa.

  1013. And there's, there's various reasons for that,

  1014. but it, it's all intertwined and we all play a role

  1015. and part of what we were trying

  1016. to do this year is really define

  1017. who we are and what our lane is.

  1018. So we all are good at at least one thing.

  1019. So find that one thing and stick to your lane

  1020. because there is a lot going on in our communities.

  1021. There is a lot of wonderful,

  1022. good intentioned efforts going on,

  1023. but we don't wanna duplicate or, or try

  1024. and step into a lane that we're not a professional at

  1025. or that we're not an expert at.

  1026. I guess our role here is to purely be,

  1027. I've used this analogy a lot lately,

  1028. but it's kind of like a switchboard operator.

  1029. We get all the calls coming in

  1030. and we're connecting them to the right person

  1031. or organization and I think that's

  1032. what our lane is meant to be.

  1033. We were able to attend

  1034. and participate in a Building Better Places Workshop

  1035. by Community Builders.

  1036. I'm not sure if you've heard of them,

  1037. but they're an organization based outta Glenwood

  1038. and we, we applied to be part of their program

  1039. and got accepted and they work on helping new

  1040. or any organizations

  1041. or municipalities communities to understand

  1042. what their role is and how to build a plan.

  1043. So we did that in March.

  1044. Jamie actually was able to attend that.

  1045. We had a large group attend that in Glenwood.

  1046. From that we would then realize we do need

  1047. to create a strategic plan for our group specifically.

  1048. And we were able to do that in June.

  1049. We had a strategic planning session

  1050. that we actually were able to fund through a grant from

  1051. the Rural Opportunity Office.

  1052. So we had a facilitator come in and that was great.

  1053. That helped us to get to what was in your packet

  1054. and on, on your desk today.

  1055. I tried to keep it simple, but it's a vision board.

  1056. So I, I came up with this

  1057. because a strategic plan is well intentioned

  1058. and it took a lot of work to get there,

  1059. but it's not something you really wanna be spending your

  1060. time too much of your time reading.

  1061. It's quite valuable. So we were invited

  1062. to attend the Energy an Energy Summit put on by Clear

  1063. and Aspen in August

  1064. and they said you can put any documentation up

  1065. or any collateral.

  1066. So I came up with this vision board for that event

  1067. because you wanna capture people's attention

  1068. and really give an idea of what we're trying to do.

  1069. So we have a strategic plan for 24 through 26

  1070. and it's really focused on our tagline

  1071. of better jobs close to home.

  1072. So to your point of 30 minutes a day is, I try

  1073. and aspire to that.

  1074. I do appreciate your comment, Susan, of I have a 4-year-old

  1075. who I think is very, very smart.

  1076. I'm kind of biased, but I don't think

  1077. she'll be reading by five either.

  1078. So it takes a little bit of the pressure

  1079. off by mentioning that.

  1080. Thank you. 30 minutes a day

  1081. for some many families in our region is really unattainable

  1082. actually because right now,

  1083. and we see it every day, whether it's on complaints

  1084. or just, we had a presentation from Youth Zone last night at

  1085. council of some, many of the issues

  1086. that arise in our community is because of presence and time.

  1087. So a lot of people are commuting on a good day,

  1088. three hours a day to what they feel is a better job

  1089. or benefits

  1090. or the only opportunity to make an income for their family.

  1091. So that's, that's where I think the,

  1092. the overall vision is better jobs closer to home.

  1093. Because if we can do that, people will have more time

  1094. to spend doing what they want to do or what they need to do.

  1095. Also, more revenue within their communities, which is

  1096. tax revenue, which helps fund a lot of our services

  1097. and also helps our small businesses.

  1098. Our businesses are, are not able to continue

  1099. because they don't have anyone here to even go

  1100. to the restaurants or spend in the retail stores.

  1101. So help small business entrepreneurship.

  1102. And then also from the environmentals perspective,

  1103. when you have less cars on the road for one,

  1104. it's a good one, it's a simple one.

  1105. There's less greenhouse gas emissions.

  1106. But when you have people have more resources

  1107. or time to look at

  1108. how they can make an impact in their homes

  1109. by being more energy efficient

  1110. or just having the capacity

  1111. to focus on the needs within their community,

  1112. the environment has a benefit from that too.

  1113. So that's really what our lane is,

  1114. what we're trying to focus on.

  1115. But being a conduit and a facilitator to open discussion

  1116. and civil discussion about these issues

  1117. that are ever present, these aren't new.

  1118. Everything that we're experiencing right now is not new,

  1119. but we are, we have the luxury right now of if we,

  1120. if we choose to being proactive rather than reactive from

  1121. an economic standpoint.

  1122. So the energy conference that, and, and Jamie

  1123. and John were actually there too.

  1124. I had some allies there.

  1125. We were invited because often

  1126. Western Garfield County is not,

  1127. or even the Western Slope, many

  1128. of our rural areas are not represented.

  1129. They do get invited or they, so they tell me,

  1130. but they never have anybody turn up.

  1131. And, and I, I said at point blank to them,

  1132. when you ha continue to have events like this in Aspen,

  1133. one people don't in from our region,

  1134. don't necessarily feel welcome in those environments.

  1135. And two, they don't have the time or the capacity.

  1136. They're just trying to get through everyday life

  1137. and survive everyday life.

  1138. So this is all great, they had great ideas and,

  1139. and it was great conversation, but the reality is we gotta

  1140. get into our region

  1141. and understand what the needs are of our communities

  1142. and our residents and our workforce

  1143. and see what other options we might have.

  1144. So I was able to speak there

  1145. and I was a little intimidating, I'm not gonna lie,

  1146. I do this a lot now, but it's still very nerve wracking.

  1147. But it did, it did receive some good feedback from that.

  1148. And I think that's what the EDP is here to do is

  1149. to make sure that we are elevating the voices of our region

  1150. from an economic standpoint

  1151. or if other stakeholders need someone to speak up,

  1152. that's what I think we're here to do.

  1153. So our values that tie into our strategic plan

  1154. on this vision board as well, innovation, community,

  1155. vitality, empowerment, collaboration, resilience.

  1156. So you can read more about those in the strategic plan.

  1157. I sent it to Jamie, so,

  1158. and he has copies so you're welcome to,

  1159. it's on our website as well.

  1160. You welcome to print that out and use that.

  1161. But one that is very, it's a reality is funding.

  1162. So I understand that the library's capacity

  1163. to fund different organizations is very limited,

  1164. especially now where it's revenues have gone down.

  1165. We just had this budget conversation at council last night.

  1166. You have to pick

  1167. and choose your needs to have and nice to have.

  1168. So I, I'm not here to ask for money,

  1169. but what I do wanna let you know is we are part

  1170. of our long range goals is

  1171. to move more towards a privately funded

  1172. or revenue based programming,

  1173. which is becoming more and more common.

  1174. So less on public funding and by public I mean grants

  1175. and government

  1176. and more on engaging all stakeholders to invest

  1177. and to contribute and to participate

  1178. because that is how we're going

  1179. to keep this sustainable throughout time.

  1180. The good news is because I, that this,

  1181. my role was funded through the generosity

  1182. of the contributors in 2024.

  1183. That was our biggest expense in the budget.

  1184. I have been working a lot with A GNC,

  1185. which is the associated governments

  1186. of Northwest Colorado and they're fantastic.

  1187. But they sent me a grant to apply for

  1188. with the Colorado Energy Office

  1189. and they're actually the grant navigator

  1190. for Gutfield County.

  1191. So I think you have worked with Mr. Lynn too.

  1192. So it's a resource that I've connected

  1193. with our other municipalities to help source

  1194. and, and apply for grants.

  1195. It's one of the hardest things is actually doing that.

  1196. And I put myself out there

  1197. and we, we did a thought, a great application

  1198. that was extensive

  1199. and we found out end of August that we were awarded a total

  1200. of $240,000 over three years.

  1201. So 80,000. Wow. No match.

  1202. And it's for staff capacity.

  1203. So that's like the golden goose of grants.

  1204. So we are here, first of all to say thank you

  1205. to the Colorado Energy office in any chance

  1206. that I get if they're listening.

  1207. But that wouldn't have been possible without being able

  1208. to just get ourselves off this starting block.

  1209. So thank you. But that is the goal.

  1210. And and I'll stop talking now

  1211. 'cause I promise myself I keep these things short,

  1212. but there's always so much to say

  1213. and I would love to answer any questions

  1214. or Crystal actually would love to later at another day.

  1215. Pick your brain over what is the best way to work

  1216. with the Hispanic community.

  1217. 'cause I'm trying to do the same thing.

  1218. 'cause I understand it's not,

  1219. you can't just put stuff out there the traditional way

  1220. or the way we, we've always done things.

  1221. It's trying to engage more Hispanic business owners

  1222. as well for us.

  1223. So I'd love to chat with you at another time on that.

  1224. Okay. Thank you so much. That was very, very interesting.

  1225. I love that tagline. Better jobs closer to home.

  1226. It's simple, easy to remember and and so accurate. Really.

  1227. Yes. More and more every day.

  1228. Yep. So thank you so much. Feel

  1229. Free, my contact details are on there.

  1230. You can connect to me

  1231. through Jamie if you ever have any questions

  1232. or want to chat or anything. I'm always

  1233. Great thank

    Except on Fridays.

  1234. I don't work on Fridays. Okay.

  1235. Thank you. Okay.

  1236. It looks like it's time for the

  1237. Kevin and John.

  1238. No, Jamie right over.

  1239. I already was there anything you wanted to add, Jamie?

  1240. I don't have much more to add to, one of the things that

  1241. made my report a little bit longer this time was I included

  1242. the introductory information about standards.

  1243. Oh yes. I know that many of you had a chance

  1244. to get the standards presentation when you were at Cal Con,

  1245. but I thought it's useful to kind of work into our own kind

  1246. of things because there's a lot of good useful background

  1247. information about the Colorado Library environment.

  1248. My intention, if this is okay with you, is to come back.

  1249. So we would take one standard per month.

  1250. There are 10 standards, right?

  1251. So that would give us 10

  1252. months to kind of go through all of them.

  1253. And it's a good, I feel like counterweight

  1254. to the long range plan to say, here's our aspiration

  1255. and here's what we should be striving for across the state.

  1256. So unless if anybody has any

  1257. questions about that, happy to answer them.

  1258. I just had a question. Did you guys all get a copy of

  1259. that at, at cal Con?

  1260. Yes. Yes. Yeah. We'll get you one. Yeah. Yeah.

  1261. But that, there was a lot of work that went into that

  1262. and it's, it's a good document

  1263. and I, I, I really support that idea of taking one,

  1264. you know, one a month and less having that as, as part

  1265. of the agenda, just as a discussion item.

  1266. Shout out to our staff. Nancy was active in putting this

  1267. together and Kevin helped out

  1268. with I think the administrative one

  1269. or the budgeting one, something like that.

  1270. Well thank, thank you. Whoever did anything.

  1271. And then just a couple more things.

  1272. One of them is a shout out to the staff,

  1273. our Hispanic Heritage Festival.

  1274. We, I think the latest numbers were 450, so that's Yay.

  1275. Very good. And I am now a big fan of mariachi music

  1276. and, and Nancy, what was the branch con for the day?

  1277. It was like 400, 1400 visits.

  1278. 14 and out. So that's not bad. Yeah.

  1279. Great.

    I wanted to point out that I,

  1280. Eileen has prepared for you all this kind

  1281. of a new trustee packet.

  1282. And we talked about this. We went through

  1283. and said, this isn't all of the policies we have.

  1284. They're kind of the core policies

  1285. and they're good orientation ones.

  1286. And this kind of goes back to you where you had talked about

  1287. what should be in this packet.

  1288. And then you'll see on that first page we're asking people

  1289. to sign that they've received.

  1290. So every time we do significant updates, we'll come back

  1291. and make sure that you've got them.

  1292. But wanted to make this available both for Mirna

  1293. as a new board member

  1294. and any new board members that come on.

  1295. And so if you could just sign off on that

  1296. and get this to Eileen

  1297. by the end of the meeting, that'd be great.

  1298. Okay. Just to say that you've received it.

  1299. And then the last thing I wanted to talk about is that

  1300. I am going to be Doc Holiday at the Ghost Walk, which is a

  1301. Glenwood Springs museum thing.

  1302. So I'm standing at the Linwood Cemetery right there,

  1303. and I'm doing five presentations two nights in a row.

  1304. And as of yesterday, I hadn't memorized all my lines,

  1305. but I've got, oh

  1306. My God.

  1307. And so you asked me to read them aloud?

  1308. No, that's everything I had to memorize.

  1309. There are 1500 words on this piece.

  1310. Oh my

    Goodness. I think I'm good to go.

  1311. So if you're interested in signing up for

  1312. that, I encourage you to do it.

  1313. It's, I attended this as a guide, I think it was last year.

  1314. It's amazing how much you learn up about local history just

  1315. by getting some of the key people

  1316. who are buried in the cemetery. So

  1317. Well, and on that same, I, I just cut this out

  1318. of the newspaper about the dates and so forth,

  1319. but I thought it fits in so well with protecting history.

  1320. And I see Judi's here with historical societies

  1321. and you know, it's just like all these different

  1322. collaborations that we have.

  1323. And we, we have an archivist that's working there

  1324. for two years at the Glenwood Springs Historical Society.

  1325. And now we have Jamie being Doc Holiday. And just,

  1326. I should also say that Ari, who's Yeah, in our internship,

  1327. has kind of wound up being the producer

  1328. for the vaudeville version of this.

  1329. So Vaudeville has stepped up a sponsor.

  1330. We're gonna having a bunch of speakers there,

  1331. so if you don't want to go up

  1332. and down the cemetery, you can go

  1333. sit in the vaudeville and catch the

  1334. Presentation.

  1335. So it looks like it's October 5th, fourth and fifth.

  1336. 11th and 12th. Tomorrow, 18th and 19th.

  1337. Yeah, that's tomorrow. 7, 7 38 and eight 30. Yeah. Wow.

  1338. Anyway, I just thought that was, yeah, I was excited to,

  1339. I did have to buy a bolo tie,

  1340. so I'm heavily invested. You

  1341. Certainly could have asked

  1342. to borrow one really in this area.

  1343. And that what's my report?

  1344. Okay. Now

  1345. budget, are you gonna go up there?

  1346. John,

  1347. Can I stay right here?

  1348. Sure.

    Okay.

  1349. It's a tag team budget committee report

  1350. as we have done in the past where I will try

  1351. to give an overview of what we've discussed

  1352. and then point at Kevin for all

  1353. of the specifics with the numbers.

  1354. Okay. And we did have a

  1355. robust budget committee hearing a few weeks ago

  1356. where we mostly talked about potential new positions,

  1357. which will add to the employee cost in the budget,

  1358. which is the biggest cost

  1359. and the cost that continues year over year.

  1360. And so I, that would probably be the largest point.

  1361. And I am looking at the draft budget, which we didn't go

  1362. through in detail where that,

  1363. that Kevin can talk about

  1364. and even point out in pile on your desk

  1365. if you don't know where it's

  1366. Right here.

  1367. What sort of the, the highlights are,

  1368. despite decreasing sales tax revenues

  1369. Too.

  1370. We still have increasing revenues this year,

  1371. and Kevin has prepared a conservative budget

  1372. that I think even with the additional

  1373. positions that we're gonna talk about,

  1374. puts roughly $700,000 in reserves. Yes.

  1375. It's on page two at the bottom there, on the bottom

  1376. of the green column is our draft project on page 2, 7 6 2

  1377. would still go to reserve with what John's talking about

  1378. 7 62.

  1379. Yes. On bottom of 762,000. Correct.

  1380. Yeah. And so, so that's kind of a baseline for any

  1381. of the discussion about things that are, will be added

  1382. and the percentage increases and all of that.

  1383. John, I'm just confused.

  1384. I thought Marina was on the budget committee.

  1385. She is. There are two trustees, Michelle as treasurer,

  1386. kindly delegated her responsibilities to me.

  1387. Oh, okay. And Mirna is also, has also been, oh,

  1388. Okay.

  1389. Okay. I didn't realize that. Okay. Okay.

  1390. And so yeah, taking, taking that as the baseline,

  1391. which is, it's a conservative budget, which puts 762,000

  1392. into reserves.

  1393. There are increases in, for example, Marmite

  1394. and insurance that are greater than inflation

  1395. that we can't really do anything about.

  1396. But those are increases that we need to be aware of.

  1397. Most of the budget has your regular inflationary

  1398. increases, factored in, which is getting under control,

  1399. but still adds a lot to the budget.

  1400. And given the amount of revenues that we have this year,

  1401. we looked at needs for additional employment positions

  1402. and then also housing solutions.

  1403. And sort of, I think I, we'll get to that one last,

  1404. and then also we should talk,

  1405. I, I don't have the numbers on this.

  1406. We should talk about the, the education budget portion,

  1407. I think, which has been an issue last year where

  1408. we do have money for education, not all

  1409. of it's getting used for education.

  1410. And we need to figure out what the appropriate amount is for

  1411. that, where the part that's not going

  1412. to education is used for loan repayment.

  1413. John, that's this one right here.

  1414. So we'll talk about that after we're done with the

  1415. Name line.

  1416. Okay. Okay. And so the main budget,

  1417. the biggest changes are sort of nine proposed

  1418. additions, seven of which are employment positions.

  1419. First one's a new collection development manager,

  1420. that's a, a big position

  1421. that will help out collection development.

  1422. It will sort of centralize decision making

  1423. for collection development so that branches know

  1424. what other branches are doing.

  1425. So we don't end up with duplicate copies

  1426. where we don't need duplicate duplicate copies where we sort

  1427. of have some overview

  1428. of what's going on in all of the different branches.

  1429. It should create some efficiencies

  1430. where the savings aren't really quantified,

  1431. but there should be savings by creating that new position.

  1432. One thing it does do is centralized

  1433. what has previously been a decentralized decision

  1434. making format.

  1435. And we do need to be aware that, you know, the,

  1436. the branches are unique in their geographic locations.

  1437. And so any new collection development manager needs

  1438. to be aware of that.

  1439. But certainly with this position, it should help as long

  1440. as all of the branches are in communication.

  1441. The request for a new events

  1442. and social media specialist, I understand that that is,

  1443. that area is,

  1444. has added a lot just looking at the numbers over the past

  1445. three years, there's a a lot more work to be done there.

  1446. And so that's a place where a new position would be

  1447. exceedingly helpful for the

  1448. people who are currently involved.

  1449. Sure. Than a new adult services coordinator

  1450. for Glenwood Springs.

  1451. Again, there, there's need there.

  1452. And so that's another position that we can two three, add

  1453. within the budget, converting for library specialists

  1454. to adult services coordinators in the other districts.

  1455. And so rifle parachute in New Castle

  1456. and then adding two library specialists,

  1457. part-time specialists in Carbondale.

  1458. Again, that's done based on sort of need

  1459. and lack of staffing there.

  1460. And again, with that one though,

  1461. an increase in a position

  1462. that can increase circulation makes it look like there's

  1463. more circulation and needs additional positions.

  1464. And so we wanna be aware that in other branches,

  1465. we need to look for need in other

  1466. ways than just circulation.

  1467. Right. By adding a position, you can increase it

  1468. and then you say, oh, we need more there.

  1469. But again, that's something we discussed

  1470. and it is being looked at so that we're not

  1471. overstaffing in a place based on increases

  1472. because of the new staffing.

  1473. That makes sense. That seventh one is a

  1474. a, an internship, it looks like it's a good collab

  1475. collaboration with CMC.

  1476. It's a social services intern.

  1477. Again, there, there's need there

  1478. and it's a good opportunity to collaborate with CMC.

  1479. It's a $6,000 intern in intern position

  1480. and the jump over eight and go to nine,

  1481. that's a $10,000 budget item for a new program

  1482. for an employee referral bonus.

  1483. And that's where, if we're looking to fill a position

  1484. and a current employee refers someone

  1485. who stays at least six months,

  1486. the employee will get a bonus.

  1487. And if the referred person stays for an entire year,

  1488. there's a second portion to the bonus.

  1489. And so that just provides an incentive

  1490. for employees to refer people.

  1491. And people who are referred

  1492. by current employees tend to stay longer. Okay.

  1493. John, did you talk about community stipend supporting

  1494. Commuting stipend?

  1495. No. I said let's jump over eight and go to nine,

  1496. because eight's gonna be the longer discussion.

  1497. Okay. Thank you. And so, yeah, that, that was nine

  1498. and going back to eight.

  1499. Okay. That's sort of the, a creative

  1500. solution or a creative experiment

  1501. to help solve the housing issue.

  1502. Yeah, certainly in Glenwood

  1503. and in Carbondale, there is a, a real issue with

  1504. hiring and retaining

  1505. because of the cost of housing we're,

  1506. we've explored in the past, you know, the potential

  1507. of buying housing.

  1508. We've even joked about, you know,

  1509. putting an apartment on top of one of the buildings,

  1510. which isn't gonna work because we can't do that.

  1511. But we've, we've, we've, you know, tried to explore ways

  1512. to sort relieve that pressure of a high cost

  1513. of housing in Carbondale, the current idea, the proposal

  1514. to add into the budget is $17,290

  1515. as a commuting stipend.

  1516. And so it would have specific requirements about the length

  1517. of a commute, and so people could live farther away,

  1518. but get compensated for that commute in order to attempt to

  1519. retain and it's, or hire

  1520. and retain people who live farther away from

  1521. Carbondale and Glenwood Springs.

  1522. There are specifics to this one.

  1523. We, we altered the initial proposal, the IRS rate almost,

  1524. it seemed like it was too much in order

  1525. to compensate people who lived.

  1526. And so this new proposal is

  1527. gas rate for only people who live

  1528. greater than 25 to 30 miles and capped at 55 miles.

  1529. Correct. But so it's,

  1530. it's not being paid at the entire IRS rate,

  1531. but it is compensating people who are commuting

  1532. to Glenwood Springs or Carbondale.

  1533. John, would you please repeat those numbers?

  1534. Greater than 25 miles?

  1535. It's Yeah, 25 to 55 miles.

    25 to 55

  1536. Miles.

  1537. Yes. Yeah.

  1538. And this has been in flux since we, we talked about it, sort

  1539. of, we, yeah.

  1540. We discussed it at the committee meeting

  1541. and revised it a a a little bit down from the initial

  1542. proposal to get something that's fair,

  1543. but not almost overcompensated, if that makes any sense.

  1544. So yeah, this is the experimental

  1545. attempt to alleviate some of the housing issues for,

  1546. for hiring people for Glenwood Springs and Carbondale.

  1547. And yeah, those are the, the asks to add to the budget.

  1548. Those are the significant new things

  1549. that aren't ly inflationary adjustments.

  1550. And then we also have, I think Kevin, I, I haven't seen it,

  1551. but there's another pie chart with Yeah,

  1552. you should have it there too.

  1553. But yes, we will.

  1554. Kim

    Did a great job putting this together.

  1555. This is a snapshot for you of

  1556. how we spent the education assistance money so far in 2024

  1557. and how we spent it, the big pie charts for 2024,

  1558. how we've spent the money so far.

  1559. And then the tables at the bottom tell you how

  1560. that money was divvied up by count

  1561. of employee in two years.

  1562. So the highlight for me here is to, to see in 2023,

  1563. we had zero MLS students requesting

  1564. reimbursement for tuition.

  1565. And this year we have three, Kim has,

  1566. has reached out to the three staff who have

  1567. been the beneficiaries of this app,

  1568. of this, of this funding.

  1569. And would you like to share a little bit about,

  1570. Yeah.

  1571. And I'll just do it from here. Okay.

  1572. So I reached out to our MLS students

  1573. and I, I just asked,

  1574. would you be pursuing your degree if you didn't have

  1575. employer support?

  1576. And rather than try to paraphrase too much,

  1577. I'm just gonna share a little bit about

  1578. what they shared back with me.

  1579. So one of our students, thank you.

  1580. One of our students let me know that

  1581. the education assistance that she's been getting,

  1582. she said it's been a miracle and a godsend for my life.

  1583. After she got her undergraduate degree, she knew

  1584. that she wanted to pursue an MLIS.

  1585. She was able to do a couple of semesters on her own,

  1586. but it was taking up most of her paycheck.

  1587. Then we introduced the education assistance program

  1588. and that's been a huge help for her

  1589. because while she's completing her school, she's also able

  1590. to set aside some money to save up for a house or for a car.

  1591. And so it's taken a lot of those life pressures off of her.

  1592. She said, to answer my question,

  1593. I would probably still pursue my MLIS without employer

  1594. support because I'm very passionate about libraries.

  1595. But it would be a lot more difficult and take a lot longer.

  1596. I'm grateful for the program.

  1597. Our two other students said that without the support

  1598. of the library, they wouldn't be pursuing their MLIS

  1599. simply for financial reasons.

  1600. They wouldn't be able to afford it.

  1601. They don't wanna take out additional student loans.

  1602. Another one, one of our students also mentioned

  1603. that in addition to the financial support,

  1604. her coworkers have been extremely supportive as well.

  1605. She works with some experienced librarians

  1606. and so they're helping her in her pursuit in,

  1607. and both of them concluded with the,

  1608. they're already seeing the benefits

  1609. of the classes they've taken so far in their work

  1610. at the libraries.

  1611. And then the last one I wanted to share with you is one

  1612. of our students said that working

  1613. for the library is my dream job.

  1614. And I'm thankful for every day I get to come to work.

  1615. I never, I've never before worked at a job that I miss.

  1616. When I go on vacation, I enjoy vacation,

  1617. but when it's done, I'm anxious to go back

  1618. to work. Oh wow. Oh

  1619. Wow.

  1620. That's good.

  1621. Yeah. And so seeing the growth, you know, from last year

  1622. to this year with three of our employees deciding

  1623. to pursue their MLIS degrees, you know, that's, I think

  1624. that was our hope when we started this program is

  1625. it would incentivize people.

  1626. I think with a lot of programs it takes a little time for it

  1627. to take off, but I'm really pleased that three people

  1628. are pursuing it.

  1629. You know, we definitely let them know that this is,

  1630. this is a budget item that we bring back every year.

  1631. So just as you're planning for your education,

  1632. please think about that.

  1633. 'cause I, I, I want them to be aware that, that if you,

  1634. you know, you might get halfway through your degree program.

  1635. I can't guarantee you every single year

  1636. the funding will be available.

  1637. We prioritize the MLIS. Absolutely.

  1638. But I wanna be really transparent with them about

  1639. where this funding is coming from.

  1640. I thank you for the gift of giving this to our employees,

  1641. both for tuition and the student loans.

  1642. I know it was controversial. I think it's really innovative.

  1643. I know that our staff appreciate it.

  1644. So yeah, I just wanted to provide you with this pie chart

  1645. to let you know where we are at as

  1646. of this year to date so far.

  1647. And yeah, I'm happy to help answer any questions. You know,

  1648. When we authorized the first

  1649. that we were told that this would be a one year deal,

  1650. we were said that, you know, we have this extra oil money

  1651. and then this is how we're going to use it.

  1652. And now you said it's like every year

  1653. It's up for, it's, it's, we propose it in the budget

  1654. that it's something that the board could ask us to take out.

  1655. They, what?

    It's, we, we propose it in the board,

  1656. sorry, in our budget, we've continued to bring that back

  1657. as a proposal, but it's certainly within the board's

  1658. wherewithal to, to ask us to remove

  1659. It.

  1660. Okay. Yes.

  1661. John and Kevin, I have a couple questions for you.

  1662. And sorry I'm a little bit dizzy

  1663. and I don't have all the information and I, you're good.

  1664. And I regret not having all the information right

  1665. now for making these comments.

  1666. But this questions, so the three per, the 3%,

  1667. the, the, the is gonna be the increase.

  1668. I know that this is because of law and everything,

  1669. but there is, there is any probes

  1670. or I wanna make sure, so here's my point.

  1671. I wanna make sure there stuff is compensated right.

  1672. And especially right now

  1673. and this time where it is, it is, it,

  1674. it's just crazy the cost of living.

  1675. So if there's any way that we can add to this 3%,

  1676. I know we try, I'm trying

  1677. to be really conservative of, of the budget.

  1678. And I don't, it's not just wasting money to,

  1679. because I don't think that's a waste

  1680. of money investing in our stuff.

  1681. If there is any way that we can increase this cost

  1682. of leaving and set up for a lot 3%, adding one

  1683. or 2% more, there's something realistic with that,

  1684. or that's gonna put the budget in a really bad risk.

  1685. And also one of the questions is how was

  1686. or staff compensated?

  1687. I know in the past, correct me if I'm wrong,

  1688. but I think two

  1689. or three years ago, there was a study about

  1690. how much your staff was making compared

  1691. to another libraries.

  1692. That was the last time that, that I remember

  1693. that I saw that report.

  1694. And I wanna make sure that we bring

  1695. that report at least every well, one

  1696. or two years just to make sure that we are paying,

  1697. they compensating our staff in the right way.

  1698. So this is why I'm making this comment.

  1699. We just,

    So I don't have the details on it.

  1700. See, this, this, no, but I watched the video from

  1701. last time, right?

  1702. Yeah. And last month, from last month from September 11th

  1703. and the, the market study was done.

  1704. And there's also a 4% increase based on the market study

  1705. as well as the 3% cola increase.

  1706. There's a 4% overall to wages.

  1707. Doesn't mean that every individual position would see a 4%

  1708. increase, but it does say

  1709. that the overall budgetary impact is 4%

  1710. for the market adjustment.

  1711. And then 3% of this cost

  1712. of living adjustment would go to every position.

  1713. Yes.

    The

  1714. 7% increase overall

    And, and the market.

  1715. But not everybody's gonna receive the 7%, the 7% increase.

  1716. Just that everybody's gonna receive the 3%.

  1717. And I know that wasn't the last meeting.

  1718. And like I say, I apologize, I wasn't here

  1719. and I don't have all the information

  1720. and the information that I had, it's just

  1721. in way. So, okay.

  1722. No, it's a good question. Right?

  1723. I mean this is, it's the biggest portion of the budget.

  1724. We just did the market survey

  1725. and there's some positions

  1726. that are at market rate right now.

  1727. And then there are other positions that were

  1728. more than 4% below.

  1729. Right? And so the ones

  1730. that are at market rate stayed the same.

  1731. And the ones that were more than 4% below increased

  1732. by more than 4%. Is that accurate?

  1733. That's accurate. Even the ones that are at market

  1734. or above market, based on this market study,

  1735. they will still receive the 3% cost of living adjustment.

  1736. But, but just because they're above market doesn't mean

  1737. that they're gonna be lower to the market.

  1738. That's not happening. Right.

  1739. So they'll maintain where they are,

  1740. but with a 3% cost of living adjustment.

  1741. And you ask the question, you know, this is your budget.

  1742. To answer your question about adding another percent,

  1743. the monetary impact would be about $40,000 per 1%.

  1744. So that's the answer to that question.

  1745. The reason why the, the market study came back

  1746. with the 3% is that's the current

  1747. Yeah.

  1748. CPI index for our region.

  1749. So that's where the 3% came about.

  1750. So if, so, if

  1751. every employee, every staff member had a additional 1%

  1752. increase, does that, how is that perpetuity?

  1753. I mean, how does that work on the budget this year?

  1754. You said it's $40,000.

  1755. It adds 40,000 to this year's budget.

  1756. Their, their pay would be elevated by 1%,

  1757. which would then roll into 25 or into

  1758. 25.

  1759. 25. So then does it cost us 80,000 the next year or,

  1760. Well, their, their wage then would roll into 2026

  1761. and whatever the adjustment is from 2026,

  1762. it would go up from where they currently are.

  1763. So it, it is, it does add on

  1764. to the base every time there's a market adjustment and

  1765. or a cost of living adjustment, it does add

  1766. to our wage base.

  1767. And so yeah, those wages will, will not go down.

  1768. The, the times that we see

  1769. wages decreasing is when there's attrition

  1770. and when we're rehiring, you know, positions,

  1771. someone coming in, entry level, new hires, things like that,

  1772. that's where we then reset those

  1773. wages back to the market rate.

  1774. 'cause this market rate study, we'll be the new base rate

  1775. for the new people coming in.

  1776. So once again, if we add one

  1777. or 2%, even though the, those salaries are gonna be adjust.

  1778. I'm asking John probably they, if you can help me with this,

  1779. if we on top of the 3%

  1780. for everyone, can we add 1% extra?

  1781. You think that's realistic?

  1782. You're, you're the and I I'm asking you

  1783. because you're the one who's been

  1784. more in touch with the budget.

  1785. Yeah, I mean we, we have the funds to do it.

  1786. The risk is we, we know

  1787. that our funds are going to decrease

  1788. over the next several years.

  1789. Yeah. Right. We, we, we hear that the valuation

  1790. of properties based on oil revenues is gonna

  1791. go off a, a cliff.

  1792. Yes. And so we have to be careful with increases like that

  1793. because they do last every year.

  1794. I mean, it's not a, a single year budget item

  1795. And not promising that every year is gonna be

  1796. a 4% increase.

  1797. That it's just gonna be one year that is just Oh, like

  1798. A bonus.

  1799. Yeah. Kind of like a bonus thing. Oh.

  1800. I mean, that might be a safer way to do it,

  1801. but it doesn't put people in the position where they know

  1802. the following year, like where

  1803. that their paycheck's gonna be same the following year.

  1804. Right. If people are getting an increase in order

  1805. to pay higher rent, you know,

  1806. we have that increase every year.

  1807. If it's not a bonus, if it's a bonus, yep.

  1808. We, we could do that for this year.

  1809. And that might be sort of short term responsible relief

  1810. knowing that we don't know

  1811. where we're gonna be two or three years from now.

  1812. Yeah.

  1813. And along Crystals lines, just eyeball math

  1814. you just said it's about $40,000 for the entire staff

  1815. to have a 1% increase.

  1816. Yes. And that has risks involved in it.

  1817. Just eyeballing, you know, this community,

  1818. the commuting stipends gonna cost 17,000.

  1819. The referral program's gonna be 10, that's 27,000.

  1820. And this, I don't even know how much proposed

  1821. of the education assistance,

  1822. but I think that's more than $40,000.

  1823. Those three items are more than 40. What?

  1824. Those are more than 40. Those three are more than 40. Yes.

  1825. It is just a thought. It seems a more equitable way to

  1826. distribute the money.

  1827. It's just a thought.

  1828. Do you like this? So you like this way better than

  1829. I do?

  1830. Not like, well, I think if, if

  1831. Kevin says that it costs $40,000 to give

  1832. the money spread out for the whole library staff at 1%,

  1833. that it could, that these two items in itself for $27,000,

  1834. you know, if we pay for a referral program

  1835. and a stipend for committing, that's $27,000.

  1836. So we're short 13

  1837. and they said that this is more than 13.

  1838. How much, that's an another silly question.

  1839. Me and my silly questions, right? No, no, not

  1840. This is a dialogue.

  1841. This is the point. You're, this is

  1842. To understand, thank you. Helping make the

  1843. Decision

    How much money it will be for each staff.

  1844. Me. Well, it's probably, it's not gonna be,

  1845. I don't know if there is gonna be the same or not,

  1846. but how many staff members that we have

  1847. and how much money is gonna be, you know,

  1848. that's another question

  1849. because I understand your point Susan,

  1850. and I think it's a really good point.

  1851. However, not everybody's applying to this program

  1852. and not everybody's is gonna be applying

  1853. for the, the commuting.

  1854. That's my whole point is that not everyone

  1855. benefits from this or these two programs,

  1856. but everyone benefits for extra money.

  1857. So

    This is, this isn't really extra money

  1858. 'cause we are gonna be in hurt.

  1859. Yeah. We're, we're gonna, you know, so,

  1860. So how much

    This is up for discussion.

  1861. So to answer Crystal's second question about what,

  1862. what will a staff member get

  1863. with an additional 1%?

  1864. Right? Is that your question? Yes. Kind of just

  1865. Even though there is a question,

  1866. Everyone gets paid a different amount.

  1867. Lets, let's just take a a, a person earning $30,000.

  1868. Okay,

    That's $300 extra in their pay.

  1869. That's an annual extra 300. Okay.

  1870. If it's $60,000 salary,

  1871. they get $600 more in their salary that year.

  1872. So that's what it would be per, you know, whatever,

  1873. based upon their annual salary.

  1874. And I also wanna remind the board,

  1875. and you guys, we talk about this a lot is that, you know,

  1876. we, we do know that we have some financial hurdles

  1877. to get over the next several years with the, the adjustments

  1878. to oil and gas with the adjustments

  1879. to this property tax bill

  1880. that they just passed the state house and legislature.

  1881. And we also have the mill levy that needs to be considered

  1882. between now and 2027.

  1883. So we do have those financial considerations to, to weigh

  1884. some of those yet are still yet

  1885. to be determined on the impact as far as the,

  1886. the financial impact to this new, new property tax bill

  1887. that we're still wrestling with.

  1888. But again, when we had spikes in revenues for 2023

  1889. and 2024 from the oil and gas industry,

  1890. and we reserved it for the purpose of this very discussion

  1891. of that, when we do have declining revenues for a period

  1892. of time, the these reserves were designed to

  1893. carry us in years, five, six years.

  1894. When we know that we,

  1895. we may then we wouldn't have to be cutting services.

  1896. So right now, so

  1897. By that you mean cutting jobs

  1898. Pretty much,

    Let's say what it is

  1899. About 60% of our revenue or 60% of our spending isn't,

  1900. Is yeah.

  1901. So, you know, we can shave here

  1902. and there on various things that would get us, you know,

  1903. But that's the big

    But the biggest,

  1904. the biggest traction is, is,

  1905. is in this is in the staffing area.

  1906. You know, as we are analyzing our revenues with sales

  1907. and property taxes, we, we generally have some notice

  1908. of what this is looking like.

  1909. We know oil and gas, we have a two year window with oil

  1910. and gas, with this new property tax bill.

  1911. That one, once that one's in place,

  1912. and I can get my arms wrapped around the,

  1913. the changes in assessment rates, the,

  1914. the reduction in assessed valuations,

  1915. then I can give you a number on what I think

  1916. that might look like for 2026 that kicks in,

  1917. in 2026 budget year.

  1918. So my thought was, and I think I've mentioned this

  1919. before, is that I don't envision serious

  1920. reductions in property valuations in our county.

  1921. The demand for real estate in our county is still going up

  1922. and the supply is still very low.

  1923. So therefore the valuation

  1924. of our properties are gonna likely continue to appreciate.

  1925. So the effects of the senate bill that just passed in this

  1926. for re for residential property

  1927. with them reducing the assessment rates and, and

  1928. and adding some exclusion to the valuation is mitigated

  1929. with our growth and valuation.

  1930. So what I'm, what I'm saying with that is, is that

  1931. I'm hoping it's a wash at this moment in time.

  1932. We've seen this before when they reduced Gallagher the

  1933. Gallagher rate, it's the same idea when they reduced the

  1934. assessment rate with Gallagher.

  1935. We thought that was gonna be tough, but No,

  1936. but we had appreciation of the value to cover it.

  1937. Yeah. So we, we were in the same spot.

  1938. So we didn't have a decline. It was, it was a net zero.

  1939. I envision that this one might be in that same boat

  1940. without having all the details yet understanding of it.

  1941. We might be in that similar position.

  1942. So again, just to give you a higher perspective of

  1943. the decisions we make in 2025 will impact our spending

  1944. for 2026 and beyond.

  1945. But again, keep in mind of what we've been,

  1946. what our goals have been the last two years

  1947. with the reserves, and again, in this budget

  1948. proposing a a 700

  1949. and some thousand dollars addition to those reserves

  1950. for 2026.

  1951. And there's years thereafter, all of the items

  1952. that John has mentioned in here

  1953. are all reflected in this budget.

  1954. So everything that he's discussed

  1955. with you is all here and there and there.

  1956. And that's still reflective

  1957. of the seven $62,000 heading to reserve.

  1958. So again, that's where we are.

  1959. I'll hand it back to you to continue

  1960. to dialogue, discuss, this is great.

  1961. This is what we're supposed to be doing.

  1962. And Adrian, I wonder if I could just make

  1963. a, a couple of additions to this.

  1964. One of 'em is that, first, just a reminder, everybody,

  1965. this is our public document of the budget.

  1966. So this is now available for general public perusal.

  1967. Second thing is that we talked about falling off the cliff.

  1968. We've already fallen off the cliff a little bit.

  1969. This budget is $2 million down from the current year. Yeah.

  1970. Okay. So even with that, we,

  1971. and even with our staffing increases, we're continuing

  1972. to add $700,000 to reserves.

  1973. So we've got a little bit of give there.

  1974. And I feel like one of the things I want the staff to know

  1975. and the public to know, we will always try

  1976. to do the best we can for our staff.

  1977. Yep. And so the way we try to do this for compensation is

  1978. to say, because

  1979. of the study you remember doing the last time we made

  1980. with like a 33% adjustment to our staff.

  1981. Yeah. It was desperately needed. Thank you for doing it.

  1982. And because of that, since that time we've added, you know,

  1983. regular merit increases.

  1984. We've added bonuses last year

  1985. and then on these kind of alternate years when we come in

  1986. and do the compensation study is

  1987. to make sure we're not losing any ground.

  1988. So I feel like we have a good system

  1989. for making sure we're doing that.

  1990. Yeah. The big staffing changes that John kind of went

  1991. through is I really think this brings us very close

  1992. to right staffing.

  1993. Hmm. You know, to finally getting to the right number

  1994. of people so that we have growth paths for our staff

  1995. to come in and have positions to grow.

  1996. That's not just, you have to have MLIS

  1997. and four people who don't know what that is.

  1998. That's a master of library and information science.

  1999. That's kind of the terminal degree

  2000. for most public librarians.

  2001. And so what we do is we come back

  2002. and then we propose some of these one-off kinds of things.

  2003. So education assistance or tuition reimbursement,

  2004. because it's an experiment.

  2005. We wanna see if it works. And as we just heard,

  2006. the number of people that are taking advantage

  2007. of the student education, it's successful.

  2008. It's working. So we're gonna ask for it again

  2009. because we know that it was doing the thing

  2010. that we were trying to do incentivizes.

  2011. So as I, you know, balance all these things,

  2012. it's like these are targeted exper experiments.

  2013. We're holding the line on our staff, we're giving this,

  2014. you know, overall several percent adjustment.

  2015. And I'm always looking for other ways to do that with staff.

  2016. But I'm reluctant to change these smaller targeted programs

  2017. to see if we, we can't solve the problem

  2018. for recruitment in Carbondale.

  2019. It's really tough. 1% isn't gonna do it. Right.

  2020. But if I do something that's, you know,

  2021. this experiment one off, maybe we'll get some traction.

  2022. That's a good point. Kevin.

  2023. What the education assistance,

  2024. how much money do you have earmarked for that in total?

  2025. 51,500. And

    How much was that originally?

  2026. That amount

    When we had all that extra money? Yes.

  2027. It was 51,000. Correct.

  2028. And now we're 2 million in the, we're down 2 million

  2029. Of revenue For

    Of revenue.

  2030. Yes. Which makes me think we need to tighten everything.

  2031. And I'm glad about the people

  2032. that are benefiting from MLIS as I'm really happy.

  2033. We also ha it it's,

  2034. is this a discussion time or is this just a presentation?

  2035. This is a discussion. This is, and I mean it's both.

  2036. It's meant to Okay. To guide the budget.

  2037. This is your budget. We want this

  2038. to be what you want it to be.

  2039. And so I don't, I I we,

  2040. the budget committee needs feedback from you to know

  2041. how you want this to look moving forward.

  2042. But we're not gonna vote on it today. No.

  2043. Right. I think you said 26 20

  2044. seven's gonna be a tough year.

  2045. I think we need to show the public

  2046. that we are batting down the hatches.

  2047. We're tightening up. I think 51,000 is a huge

  2048. chunk for a few people.

  2049. And maybe we can tighten up what is non MOIS.

  2050. Is that for like BAS or something?

  2051. Yes, yes.

  2052. Okay. I question why we're paying for that.

  2053. And again, I question the student loan payback.

  2054. I don't think it's our discussion before.

  2055. I don't think it's our place to be doing that.

  2056. Well, I would totally disagree with that.

  2057. I mean, I think, you know, as with libraries,

  2058. the most important thing is the education and the pro

  2059. and the professional development.

  2060. And if we don't have staff that are energized

  2061. and excited about coming to work as, as Kim has given

  2062. that report, I don't know why we're here.

  2063. I agree with professional development

  2064. and I think it does energize the staff

  2065. and I don't think that professional developments coming out

  2066. of this education budget.

  2067. Well

    What else?

  2068. It isn't way because No,

  2069. but isn't this where you're paying the schools?

  2070. So we pay tuition.

  2071. Some of our tuition goes directly to the school.

  2072. Some of it is reimbursement kind

  2073. of depending upon how they're set up.

  2074. For our students that are pursuing their bachelor's degree,

  2075. they have to get a bachelor's degree

  2076. before they can go for an MLIS.

  2077. Correct. And there's other programs that help people

  2078. that work at the library that aren't necessary necessarily

  2079. library and degrees.

  2080. I think our administrative team is a good example of that.

  2081. If they're pursuing finance degrees

  2082. or human resources, types of degrees, marketing,

  2083. those are all applicable to the jobs that they hold.

  2084. So I I, I really am a strong proponent

  2085. of providing tuition assistance for

  2086. really any secondary degree.

  2087. Some people are working hard just

  2088. to get their associates degree

  2089. because that's their station in life right now.

  2090. That's what they're capable of getting.

  2091. I think libraries are a knowledge based industry and,

  2092. and being able to support students in their path towards a

  2093. higher education degree, I think is a,

  2094. is is really a big deal for libraries.

  2095. And whether that's the master's degree in library science

  2096. or a bachelor's degree in in finance

  2097. or or information sciences, whatever that may be,

  2098. we find a lot of correlation between that education

  2099. and the work that they're bringing to our libraries.

  2100. Are they committed to work

  2101. for the library once they get this degree

  2102. for x amount of years?

  2103. Right now we don't have that stipulation.

  2104. And you know, we talked with our legal counsel about that

  2105. because I think, like certainly in my former experience

  2106. that was no require a stipulation.

  2107. And the trick is it's it's really difficult to enforce.

  2108. It's true. Yeah. Track 'em down.

  2109. So my position hasn't changed.

  2110. I think it's a, the chunk is

  2111. I just don't think we're in the business to be doing this

  2112. to pay for tuition, especially when we have to go back

  2113. to the tax payers in a couple years, 2027

  2114. For what it's worth.

  2115. I, I think that this graph is helpful to see the trend.

  2116. I was concerned when this budget item was largely going

  2117. to paying back loans to paying back something

  2118. that someone had already committed to.

  2119. And it was a majority portion of this graph in the past.

  2120. Here, it's such a small percentage of it

  2121. that I don't think it's controversial in the way that I did

  2122. when we started this program.

  2123. And it does take a while to ramp up to get people to

  2124. get into pursuing a degree using these type of funds.

  2125. And so to me it looks like it's working where the,

  2126. the funds are being used

  2127. to pursue education rather than paying pay off all loans.

  2128. And so the trend to me, the trend is,

  2129. is in the right direction for sure.

  2130. Something that I wanna advocate is for staff retention.

  2131. So staff retention, we need

  2132. to have staff retention and we have a good staff.

  2133. I wanna make sure that our staff is compensated,

  2134. their staff is really good paid that they're happy

  2135. not only in a, in a work that is surrendered by books and,

  2136. but they're also, they're taking care.

  2137. So I, I understand Susan,

  2138. that it's a really complicated topic,

  2139. but I, I really wanna make sure

  2140. that our staff is compensated

  2141. and it feels comfortable staying here and working here

  2142. and stop retention.

  2143. I just, I cannot say that enough.

  2144. Well, I think also your point, Kim, about

  2145. other degrees in other fields also

  2146. enhances the library.

  2147. I think it's really important.

  2148. And I have worked in a place where there were too many mlis,

  2149. there were just too many.

  2150. And it, it's, it's, it's good. Good balance. Yeah.

  2151. So I I I really appreciate that comment.

  2152. Thanks. You know, one thing that's been kind

  2153. of at the forefront for me the last couple

  2154. of years is wanting to help the library be

  2155. and stay an employer of choice in our community

  2156. among libraries in the state or at the national level.

  2157. I think programs like this help us show that

  2158. not everyone is fortunate to be able

  2159. to offer these types of programs.

  2160. Right now, this is about 0.5% of our 2025 proposed budget.

  2161. I think it's, it's something I'm really proud to talk

  2162. to potential recruits about.

  2163. You know, if somebody to speak

  2164. to the student loan portion a little bit,

  2165. when we do have the opportunity to recruit in an MLIS

  2166. staff member, that's sometimes a question that we get.

  2167. And I think that can be a deciding factor

  2168. for an individual about where do I wanna go work?

  2169. Nobody gets into libraries to get rich,

  2170. but if we can help chip away at their student loans a little

  2171. bit, I think it really shows that we invest in our staff

  2172. in, in multiple ways.

  2173. And, and in 2027

  2174. or 2028 when the funding looks a lot different, this is one

  2175. of the costs that you could easily take out of the,

  2176. but I don't wanna say easily.

  2177. Yeah. But that could be removed from the budget.

  2178. That wouldn't necessarily be, we have to choose

  2179. to remove a part-time staff member's job.

  2180. Kim, you mentioned the percentage.

  2181. Can you, can you mention the percent percentage again?

  2182. 0.5% of the overall $11 million budget.

  2183. How many other libraries our size

  2184. offer educational assistance?

  2185. Susan, I should know that. I can find out.

  2186. Can you get that for me? I'm happy to find out.

  2187. Thank you. Yes, yes.

  2188. Better works. What I forgot,

    And

  2189. This girl, she just mentioned

  2190. something and I forgot her name.

  2191. I'm sorry, having a mental fog,

  2192. but a brain fog of whatever it is in English.

  2193. But she said better works closer to home. Better jobs.

  2194. Better jobs better. Oh yeah. Thank you. Yeah.

  2195. Thank you everyone. Yeah.

  2196. Well, and I and also feel like one

  2197. of the things I've learned is that in other places when you

  2198. advertise for positions, you get lots

  2199. of MI ss on the fund range.

  2200. You don't get 'em here. You know,

  2201. and the cost of housing is one

  2202. of the things that remains said.

  2203. Sure. So one of the things I think that's meant,

  2204. and we've talked about this a lot,

  2205. is it means you have to invest in your community.

  2206. You take the people who already live here

  2207. and you say, how can we help you?

  2208. How can we help you get to Yeah,

  2209. Exactly. Crystal that

  2210. And it's not only a recruitment strategy

  2211. and it means you're hiring people at a lower rate than the

  2212. MLS but you're helping them increase their value

  2213. which holds onto them.

  2214. And so I feel like there's a commitment to community,

  2215. there's a commitment to the profession

  2216. and it helps you grow the, the expertise around you.

  2217. So I'm strongly committed to

  2218. this idea about investment and staff

  2219. And the you mean the,

  2220. you're strong in the investment of staff education? Yes.

  2221. Okay. Including education and formal education.

  2222. Formal education, yes.

  2223. And this is not per professional development

  2224. that's coming from a different part of the budget.

  2225. Yes. We did just have a presentation that she basically said

  2226. work in work in your community,

  2227. but yet we're going against that.

  2228. We're going to this c commuting stipend.

  2229. $17,000. That's a lot of money.

  2230. We've had a vacant position in,

  2231. in Carbondale for two years.

  2232. What?

    We haven't been able

  2233. to fill a position in Carbondale for two

  2234. Years.

  2235. And you think it's 'cause of the commute? I think it's cost.

  2236. 'cause of housing cost. The housing

  2237. Commutes

    The alternative.

  2238. But, but can they work in lower cost housing

  2239. and commute to Carbondale?

  2240. They haven't, if they are doing that, they're not applying

  2241. for the job in Carbondale

  2242. And they're applying for another library job.

  2243. I don't think they're working in libraries.

  2244. Living in Carbondale is expensive

  2245. and there's no doubt about my, that'd be a tough one for me

  2246. to live in Carbondale.

  2247. You know, I don't know what to say about that.

  2248. But I, so as you're, okay, so let me understand, Jamie,

  2249. you're saying that people aren't commuting,

  2250. but yet it's a commuting stipend

  2251. To carbon.

  2252. They live, live in Parachute and they work in Carbondale.

  2253. Yeah, that's 'cause they can't afford to live in Carbondale.

  2254. So they're gonna But

  2255. You just said that.

  2256. I didn't You say they're not, what did you just say?

  2257. Well, it's, let's reframe all this to, okay,

  2258. Let's try again to

    Get add here.

  2259. It's like when we try to recruit somebody,

  2260. we say we wanna hire you for a job.

  2261. And they look, take a look at the cost

  2262. of living and they say, I can't do it.

  2263. I'm not gonna

    Do it. That's it.

  2264. And so right now, if you say, okay, then I have to kind

  2265. of go to the people who already live here, who are here

  2266. and they are living in cheaper places

  2267. and that's a cost for them, right?

  2268. Sure. To have to go that distance.

  2269. And so what that means in places like Carbondale,

  2270. I have a key position that youth services coordinator

  2271. that has been vacant for two years.

  2272. I can't find somebody to fill it.

  2273. So if I offer something like this, am I more likely

  2274. to get somebody willing to take that commute?

  2275. Because we're making it a little more affordable to them.

  2276. If I were to just to add that 1%

  2277. of the wages, it doesn't cover it.

  2278. But if I were to say, well our problem is targeted,

  2279. we're trying to get people to the areas

  2280. where I can't hire people, we can pay you

  2281. to drive a little bit farther and it might recruit you

  2282. and it might help you to stay on. That's all.

  2283. If I could just interject, this is just a, a draft budget.

  2284. We've had some really good dialogue.

  2285. I would recommend that we all take this

  2286. because we just got this, you know, this thing right now,

  2287. let's take this, digest it, look at that

  2288. so we have some more, you know,

  2289. and come up with some like, written questions that we can,

  2290. you know, share with, with each other.

  2291. But for the sake of time, I think we need to, I think

  2292. that's a good idea to, to be moving on is,

  2293. so is everyone okay with that or Yes.

  2294. Did you have anything else with your report?

  2295. I just wanted to say that the,

  2296. the budget will be posted tomorrow

  2297. for public comment. Okay.

  2298. Three days

    That the notice will say they will be

  2299. allowed to present

  2300. or you'll be looking at the budget again next month,

  2301. November 7th I think it is.

  2302. And that's in the notice saying that's when the board

  2303. of trustees will take up the public comments.

  2304. Okay. Meetings,

    The draft will be,

  2305. or the budget needs

  2306. to be approved at the December meeting per statute.

  2307. Right.

    So anyway, so we'll have next month

  2308. to continue to have a discussion.

  2309. So you can help us give you the final draft

  2310. you want to see in December.

  2311. Yeah. And that's why we need to,

  2312. because this is so important, we need to take time to,

  2313. to review it and, and ask questions and, and,

  2314. and be intentional about what we're asking us.

  2315. And it's like what does that mean?

  2316. And and so forth as far as these chart.

  2317. So if you have questions between now

  2318. and November, reach out either to John or Jamie

  2319. and he'll reach, go through to me.

  2320. So he'll reach out to either one of those two

  2321. and then they'll rope me in if I need to help clarify,

  2322. give you answers, give you

  2323. some numbers or whatever you might

  2324. Need.

  2325. Okay. Yeah. If, if I could suggest I would,

  2326. I would like the trustees to go through John as trustee

  2327. to Trustee and then John you can be,

  2328. because since you're on the committee, great.

  2329. Again, that chain of command.

  2330. That's great. That's two in the morning.

  2331. If you can mostly hold John.

  2332. Okay. Thank you so much for your report. And

  2333. Kim, you'll get that information with other

  2334. Yeah, yeah.

  2335. I have a network of other HR people in libraries,

  2336. so I'll put it out to them and,

  2337. and hopefully I'll get a good response.

  2338. Thank you too. Thanks

  2339. Amy. You

  2340. Too. Thank you Kevin.

  2341. Thank you Kevin. Welcome. Thank you John. Thank you Myrna.

  2342. Did you? Oh, see you both.

  2343. Hi.

    It's January was the last time I

  2344. was so much has happened.

  2345. Yes. Between then

  2346. and now that this is gonna take me about another hour.

  2347. No, it's not. Okay.

    I had this

  2348. Thought. Well thank you for asking.

  2349. I had this thought today, like would there be any value in

  2350. putting the manager's statement

  2351. for the rest of the business?

  2352. Like after the public comments?

  2353. I don't know, it's just a thought.

  2354. 'cause I was hoping most of my staff that was here today

  2355. Would stick around and thankfully they have.

  2356. Yeah, because

    I think today I'm approaching

  2357. my report on how proud I am of my rifle branch team.

  2358. I'd say that every day they exemplify our core values

  2359. of community, inclusivity, trustworthiness, accountability

  2360. and service every day.

  2361. And as a branch we've worked really hard to ensure

  2362. that these values guide everything we do from our daily

  2363. interactions to the larger initiatives that we undertake.

  2364. And I can also confidently say that

  2365. I'm not speaking just for rifle.

  2366. I'm gonna say this is the whole library across the district,

  2367. all of our branches, we're all doing this.

  2368. And so in that context,

  2369. I wanna give some examples of what this means.

  2370. Okay. For me, how we are living these core values.

  2371. And before I start on that, I kind of wanted

  2372. my staff member Maria Guyton,

  2373. who can wave or you can stand up.

  2374. Hi. Because first I wanna talk about a recent,

  2375. something that happened at our rifle branch that was

  2376. Maria's from the beginning to the end.

  2377. And that was getting the Mexican

  2378. consulate to come to our library.

  2379. And you know, it's more impressive than just that alone.

  2380. That itself is impressive.

  2381. This is something she's been working on for a while.

  2382. And the plan was to have it in 2025 I I believe maybe in

  2383. the summer of 2025.

  2384. And Maria got a call one day

  2385. from the consulate and said, guess what?

  2386. We had an opening, can we be there next week?

  2387. And so, you know, in just the period of a week, you know,

  2388. got together, figured it out.

  2389. Maria made the plan, she pulled this thing off seamlessly.

  2390. It was wonderful. So I would say that September 21st

  2391. and 22nd, the event brought about 780

  2392. members of our community together.

  2393. Wow. Here in the library to get some of these services

  2394. that the consulate offers, such

  2395. as passport requests and renewals.

  2396. And I'll quote something that Maria said in one

  2397. of her emails to staff here.

  2398. She said, you know, in, in regards to the passports

  2399. and the renewals and what have you, this document helps

  2400. by affirming nationality

  2401. and identity for requesting protection

  2402. and assistance from foreign authorities.

  2403. By offering these services, we have enabled people to apply

  2404. for driver's licenses, open bank accounts, transfer money,

  2405. enroll children in school, obtain library cards,

  2406. access public services, secure business licenses,

  2407. file taxes, travel by airplane among other things.

  2408. So by having the consulate here to provide these services

  2409. for people, what a big deal.

  2410. Yeah. And it wasn't just the rifle

  2411. library, it wasn't just Maria.

  2412. Many branches came together,

  2413. people from the Pan Spanish services team came

  2414. and it really was a fantastic event.

  2415. Like it was great.

  2416. And I think it provided a huge service for our community.

  2417. So huge kudos to Maria

  2418. and everybody else that participated in this.

  2419. Yeah. So some other examples of our programming

  2420. that reflects our commitment to community and inclusivity.

  2421. Corina Baker, she had to leave,

  2422. but recently she started The Curious Mines Club,

  2423. which is a club for our homeschooling families.

  2424. And this has been really, really successful.

  2425. It's a weekly event. Families participate in educational

  2426. activities like STEM projects, art, health and nutrition.

  2427. And it's clear that our homeschooling community has embraced

  2428. this program because I think our first session might have

  2429. had 30 people, 50, 70, 75.

  2430. We're getting a huge crowd up here in this room. Right.

  2431. So I mean that's fantastic. That's fantastic.

  2432. Another thing that Korea has been a part of is

  2433. creating inclusive spaces for children with special needs,

  2434. such as sensory challenges and autism.

  2435. Because we've, you know,

  2436. we've been doing sensory play groups biweekly.

  2437. About 15 to 20 people attend to that.

  2438. A bilingual sensory story time, same thing.

  2439. And this is on top of the regular story times.

  2440. We also offer all the time. So that's a fantastic thing.

  2441. At the end of summer, we partner with Discovery Cafe

  2442. and hosted a back to school backpack

  2443. and school supply giveaway event.

  2444. And about over 500 people came, we distributed 267 backpacks

  2445. that were filled with school supplies for children in need.

  2446. And then after receiving their supplies, we had ice cream.

  2447. There's a bouncy house out in the

  2448. plaza and they had a good time.

  2449. And it was a huge success,

  2450. which we wanna continue next year.

  2451. Having learned that 267 backpacks were not enough. Wow.

  2452. We could have given out so many more.

  2453. So we're gonna expand that next year

  2454. and do it once again, reaching out to our teens.

  2455. We have a new program called Madness Mondays.

  2456. It's a weekly afterschool program on Mondays, about 12

  2457. to 15 teens join us every week for that.

  2458. We provide a safe space for them to hang out,

  2459. to engage in activities

  2460. and sometimes have a pizza party more come on that day.

  2461. Of course, of course. And I think this program highlights

  2462. our commitment to serving youth

  2463. by offering a supportive environment

  2464. where they can socialize and relax.

  2465. We hosted a five week series of cooking classes.

  2466. They had topics such as shop on a budget plan,

  2467. a weekly menu limit, food waste.

  2468. It was a very positive response.

  2469. And participants left with valuable skills

  2470. to help manage their daily lives.

  2471. Maria also has been running a basic computer

  2472. class for beginners.

  2473. And I'd say there's been a core group

  2474. of about five senior citizens

  2475. that have been attending these biweekly lessons,

  2476. building their confidence and their digital literacy skills.

  2477. So that's been really fun to see

  2478. them come back time and time again.

  2479. I'm not sure, Deb, I think you've been a part of that.

  2480. You talked about that. I have. She has.

  2481. She talked about how her skills are increasing.

  2482. Well I think that's a big part of it, isn't it?

  2483. We've just begun our third, I'll call it a semester

  2484. of a four month session of English classes.

  2485. They take place every Tuesday and Wednesdays.

  2486. And these classes have certainly been a great thing

  2487. for our Spanish speaking patrons.

  2488. And I think a reflection of our commitment

  2489. to bridging language barriers in our community.

  2490. Highly successful. What else?

  2491. Oh, and of course the Hispanic Heritage Festival.

  2492. You can't go without mentioning that.

  2493. I know Jamie mentioned 450,

  2494. but I heard more like 500, 550 whenever the case was.

  2495. It was phenomenal. It was a lot. It was a lot. It was a lot.

  2496. And it felt like at the beginning it kind of started slow

  2497. and throughout the day it built into the end

  2498. of the day the folk loca dancers.

  2499. I think that those are the, the highlight

  2500. people really love to see that.

  2501. And it's wonderful.

  2502. One thing that I, we kind of talked about

  2503. and I noticed this year, which I thought was really

  2504. fantastic, and I thought about this in years past, was that

  2505. this year I saw more non-Hispanic families

  2506. there enjoying this.

  2507. Which I thought was great because the past year,

  2508. just like, oh you gotta come to this.

  2509. It's beautiful, it's wonderful.

  2510. And so we saw that this year and that was fantastic.

  2511. And then I also want to,

  2512. Deb also mentioned Cindy who happens to be here.

  2513. Cindy? Yeah. Hi.

  2514. So I wanna highlight the incredible impact

  2515. that our home bound services have had.

  2516. And I think a big part of this is

  2517. through Cindy's dedication, who's been leading this service

  2518. for the past several months.

  2519. And I recently this week had the opportunity to shadow her

  2520. during her delivery day.

  2521. 'cause she'll soon be leading for new

  2522. adventures moving away.

  2523. And I'm gonna be taken over a route for the time being.

  2524. So what struck me most during

  2525. that day was the genuine connection that she's built

  2526. with our elderly patrons that she delivers to.

  2527. I have to breathe, I'm talking to I, several

  2528. of them while I was there,

  2529. express deep sadness upon learning

  2530. that she would no longer be delivering to them.

  2531. So that just made it so clear to me

  2532. that her visits have been more than just the book drop offs.

  2533. Yeah, absolutely. They've been a source of companionship

  2534. and care that touched their lives in a meaningful way.

  2535. So I'd say

  2536. that Cindy's dedication to that made a real impact.

  2537. And her absence will be felt by those she served.

  2538. I witnessed two of those people try their best

  2539. to convince her not to do this, not to leave.

  2540. And now I have some big shoes to fill.

  2541. So, so,

  2542. and then segueing into something a little bit different,

  2543. like I want to express something else

  2544. that I'm especially proud of.

  2545. And it makes me a little bit emotional,

  2546. but I think I'm gonna try, I think I can get through this.

  2547. I think over the past year and honestly beyond

  2548. library staff across the district has faced

  2549. significant challenges.

  2550. Yet their dedication and resilience has

  2551. been inspiring to me.

  2552. You know, everything from the harmful rhetoric

  2553. that's been aimed at dividing us,

  2554. the things that we've seen in social media,

  2555. at our board meetings,

  2556. coming into our branches out into our community.

  2557. I mean, it's been tough.

  2558. So I mean, but I'm proud of everybody that we're, you know,

  2559. we're here, we're standing strong,

  2560. and we still continue to provide a welcoming

  2561. and inclusive space for all, you know,

  2562. the hurtful accusations, people labeling us as pedophiles

  2563. and groomers and worse being told I'm going to hell.

  2564. You know, these things are intended to cause harm,

  2565. but it does, it hurts.

  2566. But I feel like it's strengthened our resolve

  2567. and we remain committed to serving our community

  2568. with compassion, fairness, and integrity.

  2569. And it saddens me to reflect on things.

  2570. But I'm grateful for everyone here in this audience

  2571. that has experienced these things and works in here.

  2572. And despite the challenges we continue

  2573. to serve our communities

  2574. with un unwavering deification dedication.

  2575. And I just wanna, I just wanna give you an example.

  2576. Like it's not just the past, it's something

  2577. that's still happening recently that it's just like,

  2578. what do we need to do to get this to stop?

  2579. You know, so I I, I have to let you know about it

  2580. as especially disturbing incident

  2581. that occurred at our Hispanic Heritage Festival just this

  2582. past week one of our staff members was going around

  2583. to the nonprofits, offering water to them.

  2584. And then someone, a woman who I identify as somebody

  2585. that was also part of one of the nonprofits there, come up,

  2586. be behind the staff members, started yelling,

  2587. scaring her to pieces.

  2588. She was yelling accusations about the library,

  2589. providing pornography, pornography to the children,

  2590. you know, all the, the trope that's been going on.

  2591. And not only that, and a shocking, shocking display

  2592. of aggression pounding on the staff's shoulders like that,

  2593. you know, not in a, not in a painful way,

  2594. but in a very aggressive way on her shoulders yelling

  2595. at the staff member and the person standing behind her.

  2596. You know, and this is just, this is unacceptable.

  2597. This deeply troubling and unacceptable.

  2598. And it stands in stark contrast to the values

  2599. of inclusivity, respect,

  2600. and community that we strive

  2601. to hope hold every day in our library.

  2602. I could give you more examples,

  2603. but I don't want to, that one is tough enough, isn't it?

  2604. Yeah. So, on an InNote, on a positive note,

  2605. before you leave today, I invite you to walk into library,

  2606. look to your right, and there you will see a beautiful new

  2607. piece of artwork that was created by staff member, Carolyn.

  2608. Beautiful piece of artwork that lets us know

  2609. that libraries are for everyone.

  2610. And that's my report. Amy,

  2611. Thank you.

  2612. I have a question for you. I know there's a report

  2613. when this happened, the police was called

  2614. that you guys called the police

  2615. because this is something like, this happened. Why this

  2616. Something that I was unaware of,

  2617. and it was finding out about it afterwards.

  2618. So because this

    Is so letting it be known that if

  2619. that were to happen in the future, absolutely.

  2620. Whether it was it hurt physically

  2621. or not, that's assault. It doesn't matter

  2622. What.

  2623. So putting our stuff in a risk, like at that level

  2624. and not having a police report, it concerns me.

  2625. Because if we say that that happens, we need

  2626. to have legal proof so we can, we can pursue, we,

  2627. we can go legally with this case.

  2628. So in the future, I I not only to hear

  2629. that something like that happens, please,

  2630. I wanna make sure that everybody's safe.

  2631. And it's just not a comment that we hear,

  2632. but that we really take an action and protect the people.

  2633. And it was, you know, it was something

  2634. that was I heard about later, you know,

  2635. perhaps the next day.

  2636. And, you know, there's also a level

  2637. of comfort for the staff member.

  2638. Do they want this?

  2639. Do they want, you know, it's not easy

  2640. to have your name out there and suddenly people know you

  2641. and your name, that you're someone

  2642. that's come forth about something like this.

  2643. I mean, some of the stuff I've seen on social media,

  2644. Adrian has experienced this getting targeted.

  2645. I don't think a staff member wants that, you know?

  2646. So it's a tough, it's a tough situation to be in.

  2647. But was it reported to HR and Jamie?

  2648. No. No. At this point, no.

  2649. I mean, can certainly have a

  2650. conversation about that afterwards.

  2651. So this is the first time that you hear about this.

  2652. Yeah. So

    Jamie, thank you Amy.

  2653. I didn't see anything.

    So you're,

  2654. Thank you for that.

  2655. We're standing together and we'll be strong together

  2656. and continue on.

  2657. What's the next thing on the agenda? Trustee comments?

  2658. You guys start? I have another word

  2659. To say.

  2660. Any reports or anything?

  2661. I'll do, I'll do three comments.

  2662. One, we've sort of, the library districts is doing great

  2663. and received acknowledgements at Cal Con for

  2664. Adrian and for Discovery Cafe's partnership with RIFLE

  2665. and for the Spanish services team.

  2666. The community needs to know that.

  2667. And so I wanna give kudos to Jamie for writing the article

  2668. and for Susan and Mirna for talking

  2669. to the county commissioners

  2670. and letting them know what the library district is doing.

  2671. I think that's really important that we do that.

  2672. And so thank you for that. Gosh, there's this case,

  2673. I keep following deep in the heart of Texas where some

  2674. librarian was pressured into taking books off the shelf.

  2675. Trial court said, put 'em back on the appellate court

  2676. said they need to stay on.

  2677. Yeah. And then the entire appellate court

  2678. just had a hearing about it.

  2679. And so, we'll, we'll follow that one.

  2680. But there's respectful discussion about things

  2681. that are discussed here.

  2682. Sometimes not as respectfully,

  2683. but it's, it's a, it's a nationwide issue,

  2684. but Texas says, put the books on the shelf.

  2685. And finally, I just wanted to say to, to Crystal,

  2686. it's been a pleasure working with you.

  2687. I appreciate your patience

  2688. and perseverance to be a very effective person,

  2689. very effective board member on an institution

  2690. that's larger than all of us.

  2691. But identifying goals that you want to achieve,

  2692. achieving them with pay for Spanish, speaking

  2693. for consumers,

  2694. and also for increasing the number of books

  2695. where you said, I'm gonna do that.

  2696. And you did. I appreciate you.

  2697. You wanna make me cry?

  2698. Did you wanna say anything, crystal?

  2699. I'm gonna wait until the la I wanna be the last one.

  2700. I'd

    Like to say goodbye to Crystal.

  2701. She's been a good member

  2702. of the board always telling her truth.

  2703. And I appreciate everything you've done,

  2704. and I'm gonna miss you too.

  2705. We all do.

    I don't wanna cry, guys. Well,

  2706. It's okay.

  2707. Why not? Let me, okay.

  2708. I'll say something and then you can be the last,

  2709. this is really, really exciting news.

  2710. We approached the Garfield County Public Library Foundation

  2711. with a request, be we,

  2712. because we had a really special opportunity

  2713. that presented itself through Humanity, habitat

  2714. for Humanity, where we could secure a

  2715. priority position, if you would, in, in a Glenwood Springs

  2716. Habitat for Humanity.

  2717. And I'm happy to report that we have secured that spot.

  2718. Kevin, do you want to just give him a, a little, or,

  2719. or Jamie, just some of that.

  2720. It was, it was so ex, I'm just

  2721. so excited about it. Go ahead.

  2722. About a year ago that we were approached by Habitat

  2723. for Humanity informed us that for the price

  2724. of a hundred thousand dollars, we would gain first,

  2725. you know, so any employee that qualifies for the usual kind

  2726. of habitat for Humanity,

  2727. that guarantees one position for the library.

  2728. And if that person decides, you know, they come to work

  2729. for us, they move into the building,

  2730. and then for whatever reason they end their employment

  2731. with us, they get to keep the house.

  2732. But our name goes to the top

  2733. of the list again for the next opening.

  2734. So again, this doesn't solve all the housing problems in the

  2735. county, but what it does do is it makes sure

  2736. that we're indicating our place at the

  2737. table to say we want it.

  2738. We recognize the crisis, we recognize we're trying

  2739. to do something for our staff.

  2740. And I'm so grateful that the foundation was willing

  2741. to step up on $400,000, secure that

  2742. opportunity for a staff member.

  2743. And again, let me just emphasize,

  2744. this is not taxpayers money.

  2745. I mean, that's important that you all understand

  2746. that this is money that individuals have, have donated

  2747. to the, the foundation specifically for this type

  2748. of opportunity.

  2749. And, and we were fortunate enough to be,

  2750. have heads up enough and,

  2751. and the foundation could move on it quickly

  2752. to secure this position.

  2753. So that's a yay for everybody.

  2754. Yeah, that's great.

    Just kudos to Kevin for walking

  2755. through those last little Oh, yeah.

  2756. Ments about legally and getting the contract together.

  2757. Yeah.

    Thanks Kevin.

  2758. Thank you. You're welcome.

  2759. I'd like to thank Jamie very much for putting this together.

  2760. Whoever put it together, it's Eileen. Look at her coin.

  2761. Eile. Thank you. Eile.

  2762. I just think it's a really good foundation for

  2763. a new trustee and for the current trustees.

  2764. So I, I really appreciate that. Yeah. Yeah.

  2765. There was something else. What was it? I can't remember.

  2766. Oh,

    I'll,

  2767. How about some dates to remember?

  2768. Dates? October 19th?

  2769. Yes. October 19th.

  2770. Oh, October 19th

  2771. is October 19th.

  2772. There's going to be a gathering at the Centennial Park,

  2773. and it is sponsored by the library.

  2774. And it is basically to bring awareness

  2775. to the book, banning situation.

  2776. The, there will be a, a, a

  2777. people will be encouraged to dress

  2778. as their favorite character in a book

  2779. or their favorite title of a book.

  2780. And there will be prizes,

  2781. and I believe trustees will be selecting the winners.

  2782. And Jamie is going to speak.

  2783. Is Elizabeth Velasco going to speak? Perfect.

  2784. And who is the, who's it?

  2785. Only if the board members say they're coming. Yeah.

  2786. Who is? Okay. And the third person is Carolyn Howard,

  2787. who represents Protective.

  2788. Yes. Yes. And

    She has been circulating a petition to

  2789. ask the county commissioners to rescind their decision

  2790. to take over the selection of library trustees. Right.

  2791. Good

    Catch on that, right. Public notice. Yeah.

  2792. Yeah. Public notice.

    Yeah.

  2793. So, yeah, it's a, are are there trustees who would like

  2794. to be judges in this costume?

  2795. I'll be a judge. There's one,

  2796. I'll be an attendee. Okay.

  2797. I'll be a judge.

    Okay. Yeah.

  2798. Two, that's three. So, enough to notice

  2799. And protect our, our Garfield Libraries has been very

  2800. active in Be a Judge, promoting this through the

  2801. community and supporting the library

  2802. through this whole FIAs.

  2803. And I will say too, thank you to Jocelyn who secured one

  2804. of the prizes from White River Books and Carbondale.

  2805. Thank you.

  2806. Wow. The costume contest.

  2807. Okay. Do you, oh,

    Forgetting a prize for the contest.

  2808. I thought you were awarded a No, no, no. It's a little,

  2809. Okay.

  2810. Does anyone else have anything to add?

  2811. Thank you all for, so I have, I still have my comments.

  2812. Sorry. I just wanna make sure you guys are,

  2813. this is why I waited for the last minute.

  2814. Okay, here we go. Sorry

  2815. That that happened and that,

  2816. and Amy, I'm sorry that that happened to your staff.

  2817. I was there and I, I was in the event

  2818. and I didn't see anything.

  2819. So I'm that, that's really unfortunate.

  2820. And because my experience with that event

  2821. was community, with a place, with a world that is

  2822. so divided, like you mentioned, I was able

  2823. to see candidates together from different sides talking.

  2824. And I actually approached them

  2825. and I said, this is community.

  2826. This is what, this is community.

  2827. And seeing everyone there for me was like, I don't know,

  2828. was really, really nice event.

  2829. And all the hours that the staff put for this event,

  2830. there were people there from six in the morning.

  2831. I, I worked like eight, nine hours.

  2832. I don't know how many hours they work in there.

  2833. But that was a unique event.

  2834. And like I said, that was community.

  2835. That was, that was a really good example

  2836. I have in a community.

  2837. And I know that Alex Walk

  2838. because he knew like he walk away because he knew that.

  2839. I will say thank you for, to him for everything

  2840. that he's been doing to Anna and Miranda and to everyone.

  2841. And not only the staff that speak Spanish.

  2842. It's not, I don't wanna say thank you only to the,

  2843. the staff that speak Spanish.

  2844. Thank you for everyone you know. Thank you to everyone.

  2845. It hurts to say goodbye.

  2846. I'm really thankful for having this resource.

  2847. And John, if you can read my letter,

  2848. because I'm gonna start crying.

  2849. If I try to read it, I have a,

  2850. an extra letter here for everyone.

  2851. Oh, thanks Crystal. So,

  2852. Yeah,

    But if you can read it for me. Okay. Do you

  2853. Want me to read this out loud?

  2854. Yes. Not just to yourself.

    Okay. No, lemme make sure.

  2855. All right. Dear Board and community members,

  2856. after several months of seeing the position vacant,

  2857. I decided to send my letter of interest.

  2858. The board interviewed me and a couple months later,

  2859. the commissioners appointed me as a trustee.

  2860. While I was being appointed as a trustee,

  2861. my son listened excitedly to the meeting.

  2862. My children grew up in the library.

  2863. I registered them for every free,

  2864. free program and activity available.

  2865. As a single mom, that was my way

  2866. of keeping my kids entertained and engaged in something fun.

  2867. It was even the place where they waited for me

  2868. after school while I finished work.

  2869. So I thought, what better way to give back

  2870. to the libraries than volunteering my time as a trustee.

  2871. That's how I became the first Latina to hold this position.

  2872. My daughter, Karina once told me not

  2873. to focus on being the first Latina,

  2874. as I often found myself being the first

  2875. or only Latina in the room.

  2876. Instead, focus on leaving a good legacy.

  2877. A similar message in different words was given

  2878. to me this week by a very special mentor.

  2879. I quickly identified several,

  2880. several projects I wanted to change.

  2881. One of them was a stipend for Spanish speaking workers

  2882. as an extra skill in their jobs, not just

  2883. for speaking Spanish, but because it was a necessity.

  2884. While there's still a lot to improve in salaries, I think

  2885. that was a good start.

  2886. My second was to increase the collection

  2887. of books in Spanish.

  2888. I had the opportunity to travel with a team

  2889. twice in different years to Gu Lahara for the FIL.

  2890. I hope the libraries continue to pursue this project

  2891. as over 50% of students in our schools are Latinos,

  2892. and our work is to serve the entire public.

  2893. The third goal I wasn't able to achieve was

  2894. to enhance communication in Spanish,

  2895. informing the community about everything

  2896. happening in the libraries.

  2897. From events to new books.

  2898. The communications department needs

  2899. to grow and requires help.

  2900. A significant achievement was being able

  2901. to add comments from each board board member to the agendas

  2902. as we only showed up and voted

  2903. and had little control over the rest.

  2904. I hope that in the future the board can add recommendations

  2905. for discussion items for the next agenda.

  2906. Thanks to John for bringing up an idea.

  2907. I had to create a card for teenagers, which did not go

  2908. to a vote and therefore remain just an idea

  2909. that didn't materialize.

  2910. I arrived in difficult times and leave in challenging ones.

  2911. It's been an honor to witness the growth

  2912. and all the events that under Alex's leadership

  2913. and creativity have taken place and continue to happen.

  2914. I saw the first two Latina managers

  2915. for the first time in our county,

  2916. and I hope the libraries continue to ra,

  2917. retain staff like that.

  2918. It would be a shame to lose them.

  2919. It's true that everyone is replaceable,

  2920. but when you have someone who in addition

  2921. to doing their job well, has built a relationship

  2922. with the community and the county,

  2923. it's much harder to replace them.

  2924. Thank you, Jamie, for your commitment to the libraries

  2925. and our taxpayers and for your leadership.

  2926. As we see more leaders growing within the institution

  2927. to the board, it's been an honor working with you.

  2928. As I mentioned a few months ago,

  2929. I hope this board becomes more diverse now

  2930. that I've accomplished what I set out to do.

  2931. It's time for new ideas.

  2932. I don't wanna hold a position too long

  2933. as one must recognize when it's time to step down.

  2934. The main reason I'm leaving is for my health at this moment.

  2935. I need to prioritize taking care of myself

  2936. so I can take care of my children, particularly the youngest

  2937. who, despite being almost 17, still needs his mom.

  2938. Thank you. I extend my gratitude to each of you.

  2939. Alright,

    Thanks.

  2940. Now who's making us cry?

  2941. Wow, this meeting is adjourned.

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