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Select Board April 14, 2026
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Select Board April 14, 2026

Select Board April 14, 2026

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  1. - Why are you not starting?

  2. - I'm try. I tried.

  3. One is stuck sort of open,

  4. but that's as far as I could get to stick.

  5. I emailed Patrice and asked

    him to play on with it. So

  6. - He comes,

  7. okay, well

  8. - We can all talk about

    what a beautiful day

  9. - It was.

  10. - That absolutely.

    - Okay, now hold on.

  11. - And the town is starting

    to spring to life for May

  12. as this town's and we

    appreciate this new session.

  13. Yes, we do. We're done with snow

  14. all dressed up for the marathon.

  15. - Keep forgetting it's Monday

  16. - And it's gonna be 48 on Monday.

  17. Awesome. Great. I think a tailwind.

  18. - Okay, mark Mar.

    - Okay, we're we are.

  19. Good evening everyone.

  20. We are back in open session

  21. and as many of you know,

    we have amended our agenda

  22. to provide a public status

    update on 40 Oakland Street.

  23. The town received two pieces

  24. of electronic communication

    from the Commonwealth on Friday,

  25. one from the Executive Office of Housing

  26. and Livable Communities HLC.

  27. The letter did not answer

    any of the questions

  28. that we sent in our January 9th letter.

  29. What the letter did say is

  30. that the Commonwealth is pursuing

    housing projects statewide

  31. with a sense of urgency

    responding to the seriousness

  32. of the housing crisis.

  33. They're working with the town to try

  34. to build 180 homes on Oakland Street

  35. to enhance the community and

    complement the town's housing

  36. and planning goals.

  37. Those, those goals could be achieved

  38. by concentrating

    development of the units on

  39. and around the parking area

  40. and permanently conserving

    the balance of the parcel,

  41. which does not enjoy

    such protection today.

  42. HLC has had an ongoing

    relationship with some groups

  43. of Wellesley residents since early 2025.

  44. The select board did not know

    about this until September.

  45. According to HLC, they have

    been responsive to our community

  46. for our request for community input

  47. and have adjusted their

    schedule to accommodate us.

  48. They anticipated our questions

    to pertain to planning

  49. considerations, but believe

  50. that our questions exceeded the

    scope of what they expected.

  51. The community has expressed

    a priority interest in

  52. clustering the housing development on

  53. and around the existing parking

    area with a commitment not

  54. to build on the rest of the property,

  55. which they are prepared to do.

  56. They're prepared to require the developer

  57. to offer a conservation

    restriction to a qualified entity

  58. of the town's choosing

  59. and to require the developer to comply

  60. with our inclusionary zoning requirements

  61. of 20% affordable units.

  62. They said our questions on

    local permitting authority were

  63. answered in the regulations.

  64. If you saw our letter last

    week, you saw we had a lot

  65. of comments about the fact

  66. that we had questions

    about the regulations

  67. and they are continuing

  68. to work towards a July,

    2026 release of an RFP.

  69. So that's what the state said.

  70. The second letter from the Department

  71. of Capital Asset Management

    and maintenance DCAM

  72. provided the 30 day official notice

  73. that Oakland Street has been

    determined to be surplus

  74. by the Commonwealth for

    current and foreseeable needs

  75. and will be made available for disposition

  76. for housing purposes.

  77. DCAM will accept any comments

    regarding the disposition

  78. and use of the property until May 13th.

  79. The select board continues

    to discuss public input

  80. and all aspects

  81. of the anticipated disposition

    and the development.

  82. As you know, we've just come

    out as executive session.

  83. There have been multiple

    opportunities for public input

  84. and feedback since the select

    board's meeting in September.

  85. There were meetings at Mass

    Bay, we've held meetings,

  86. we've taken public comment

    and we have received

  87. and continue to receive emails.

  88. We now believe we need to hear from

  89. a very broad representative

    group of the town

  90. and we are going to call for

    a special town meeting in May

  91. and we'll put a non-binding question out

  92. to town meeting members,

    of course residents

  93. who are not town meeting

    members are invited

  94. and we'll be able to speak

  95. and we will, the date is TBD.

  96. We just have to work on a

    couple of things for opening

  97. and closing the warrant and

  98. advertising and things like that.

  99. So for this meeting, we are

    have scheduled 25 minutes

  100. for citizen comment on 40 Oakland

    three minutes per speaker.

  101. And I'm gonna ask please,

    if you can avoid repetition,

  102. we would appreciate that very much.

  103. After that, we will do citizen speak

  104. for items not on the agenda.

  105. So this is the time to

    comment on 40 Oakland

  106. and Corey has a list of

    people who've requested time.

  107. So come up to the table, turn the mic on

  108. and please give us your name

    and street for the record.

  109. - Our first person is

    Marguerite Chatelier.

  110. - I'm Marguerite. Hello,

  111. - My name is Margarite Chatelier.

  112. I work in town and I

    live at 11 Colburn Road

  113. and I serve on the board

    of World of Wellesley,

  114. but I'm not here in that role.

  115. Thank you for giving me

    the opportunity to speak.

  116. I was so happy to read the

    letter from the Commonwealth

  117. of Massachusetts dated April 10th

  118. regarding the Mass Bay Project.

  119. I'm glad the state has

    agreed to preserve the forest

  120. and build much needed

    housing on the parking lot.

  121. This is a wonderful opportunity

    for Mass Bay to access funds

  122. to upgrade our state college.

  123. I know many in town who

    feel the same way as I do.

  124. I want to speak for what I believe is less

  125. is the less vocal

    majority of our community.

  126. I wanna urge a select board

    to engage in conversation

  127. with the state so

  128. that we have the best

    outcome for the community.

  129. A place that welcomes

    residents of all walks of life.

  130. But to do that, we need

    to say yes to new housing

  131. and new neighbors.

  132. I look forward to engaging

    in future community

  133. conversations on this project.

  134. Thank you.

  135. - Thank you Marguerite.

    - Doug Youngen,

  136. - Are we live here?

  137. Good. Good evening and thank

    you to the Select board

  138. and for allowing me to speak tonight.

  139. My name is Doug Youngin. I

    live at 62 Oakland Street.

  140. I'm the president of the

    newly formed nonprofit.

  141. Friends of Centennial.

  142. Friends of Centennial

    was organized by a group

  143. of committed residents

    who recognized last fall

  144. that the proposed development

    at 40 Oakland Street.

  145. It's deeply misguided.

  146. Let me begin by clearing

    up a common misconception.

  147. We are not anti housing.

  148. Wellesley has made real progress

    through thoughtful planning

  149. and community input in meeting

    important housing goals under

  150. 40 B, the MBTA Communities Act

    and other state requirements.

  151. We support well-planned housing.

  152. What we oppose is poorly conceived

  153. top-down development imposed

  154. by the state without adequate research

  155. or local input like what is

    being proposed at 40 Street.

  156. I wanna make three brief points tonight.

  157. First, this land was never,

    has never been surplus

  158. for over 50 years, this

    forest has been actively used

  159. and cared for by the town

    residents from Wellesley

  160. and neighboring towns

    rely, rely on it daily

  161. for recreation and open space.

  162. Our legal team has

    developed a strong argument

  163. that this land qualifies as

    Article 97 protected land,

  164. and yet it has been labeled surplus along

  165. with a Mass Bay parking lot

    that is full nearly every

  166. day Classes are in session.

  167. The surplus designation

    defies common sense.

  168. Second, this is the wrong

    direction for high density,

  169. the wrong location for

    high density housing.

  170. The state's own agencies have

    acknowledged doing little

  171. or no site specific research

    on 40 Oakland Street,

  172. yet they're proposing 180

    unit multi-story development

  173. with a four to five story

    parking structure located on a

  174. narrow winding road in a

    single family neighborhood.

  175. Oakland Street is already strained

  176. by commuter traffic

    from Mass Bay tripling.

  177. The population in this area

    is not responsible planning.

  178. There are also limited walkable amenities

  179. and the site does not meet

    proximity expectations

  180. for transit under the MBTA

    communities framework.

  181. In fact, it is twice

    as far as recommended,

  182. even though the state said it is steps

  183. away from the commuter rail.

  184. Third, we need your help.

  185. The select board waited over three months

  186. for a response from the state

    only to receive a message

  187. that makes one thing clear.

  188. The state intends to

    dictate what gets built

  189. and where that is not good.

  190. That is not how good planning works.

  191. Our community has spoken

    through more than 3,400

  192. petition signatures, 500

    residents displaying yard signs,

  193. countless letters and

    appearances at meetings.

  194. Friends of Centennial is committed

  195. to pursuing this challenge

  196. through all appropriate legal channels.

  197. We have engaged,

    experienced counsel Hill Law

  198. to guide that effort.

  199. Thoughtful housing

    strengthens a community.

  200. We are not giving up. In fact,

    we are just getting started.

  201. Please visit friends of centennial.org

  202. to learn more and support our work.

  203. Thank you.

  204. - Thank

    - You. Doug

  205. - Rayna already knows she's number three.

  206. Number three.

  207. - Hi Rena.

    - Hi.

  208. Thank you all for all

    the work that you do.

  209. Good evening, Rayna

    McManus to Mulherin Lane.

  210. For many reasons express both here

  211. and in earlier meetings as

    well as in written comments.

  212. The proposed development is not

  213. appropriate for this location.

  214. I want to focus on just one issue.

  215. The environment DAM intends

  216. to preempt Wellesley's

    wetlands protection bylaws.

  217. And please don't be

    fooled by any suggestion

  218. that any development would be limited

  219. to the existing parking lot.

  220. No one has ever said it would.

  221. The most anyone has ever suggested is

  222. that the development might

    either mostly be limited

  223. to the parking lot, limited

    to the lands, adjacent to

  224. or surrounding the parking lot on

  225. and around that parking area,

  226. or would only disturb a few acres

  227. adjacent to the parking lot.

  228. But if you look at the map

  229. or walk the property, you'll

    see that immediately adjacent

  230. to that parking lot are wetlands

    and surface water bodies.

  231. Any construction is going to interfere

  232. with those protected resources.

  233. And please also do not overlook

  234. that any such construction

    will be in Wellesley's Water

  235. Supply Protection District.

  236. And it's unclear if DCAM intends

  237. to honor our water supply

    protection district regulations.

  238. When conservation land is involved,

  239. especially when contiguous

  240. to our own Article 97 Conservation Land

  241. Centennial Reservation

    Extra care must be taken.

  242. These developments are not self-contained.

  243. They will devalue recognized

    open space functions

  244. and values activities can

  245. and will have negative

    consequences on the interior

  246. of the land, which can extend

    to our centennial reservation.

  247. Two years of construction

    activity and noise will frighten

  248. and scare off wildlife.

  249. Where will they go for

    the first time ever,

  250. the forest will be shaded during the day

  251. and lit up at night confusing

    the circadian rhythms

  252. of living things from

    vegetation to mammals.

  253. Concentrated density of people

    will necessitate the use

  254. of pesticides and rodenticides,

    which are poisonous

  255. to our environment and especially

  256. to our essential bird populations

  257. and industrial skill landscaping

    methods will be introduced

  258. in and adjacent to our

    premier conservation area

  259. for these in so many more

    reasons, including the uncertainty

  260. of what development will occur

    on the open spaces on the

  261. campus across the street.

  262. This is the wrong location for

    dense housing, for the sake

  263. of the environment as well as

    the health of the community.

  264. And because biodiversity keeps

    all of us healthy, I urge you

  265. to do whatever you can to stop

    this inappropriate project.

  266. And I'd also just like

    for you to recognize

  267. that there are people

    here tonight in support of

  268. what we're saying, but

    they've asked not to speak.

  269. But if they could just raise their hands

  270. and let you know that they are here.

  271. Thank you again for all

    the work you are doing.

  272. - Thank you, Rena. Thanks Rena.

  273. - Now we're going on to zoom. Paul White.

  274. - Hi Paul. Oh,

    - You're muted, Mr. White.

  275. - Oh,

    - Still muted.

  276. - Here you go. Okay. I I apologize.

  277. Turn off, turn off.

  278. He's he's got the, can you hear me?

  279. Yes.

  280. - I, I I apologize. I,

  281. - Paul, you have two monitors

    on and you're echoing.

  282. Can you turn one of them off please?

  283. - Paul? Do you have us on two different

  284. monitors or devices or a phone?

  285. Devices? A phone and a computer.

  286. There you go. There you

    go. Perfect. Perfect.

  287. - Thank you.

    - I I apologize for that,

  288. but I am pleased to tell

    you that I, in light

  289. of the comments that

    were just made by Doug

  290. and Rayna, I have, I

    have very little to add

  291. E except one thing that I

    think should be pointed out,

  292. which is that the select board

    went to enormous trouble to

  293. ask a series of very important questions.

  294. And the response that we

    received, that you received from,

  295. from DCAM, I think

    illustrates something that is,

  296. that is clear to many of us,

    which is that, that that, that

  297. it has its own plan.

  298. It is not interested in getting input.

  299. And it was, in my view,

    with all due respect

  300. and exercise in railroading

    the select board in sending

  301. that type of response.

  302. So I, I, I support and echo

    what Doug and Rena said.

  303. And with that, I, I yield. Thank you.

  304. - Thank you very much.

    - Leslie Hanrahan.

  305. - Hi Leslie. Hi,

    - How are you? Is this on? Yes. Great.

  306. Okay. To the members of

    the select board, thank you

  307. for allowing me to speak.

  308. Leslie Hanrahan five Putney Road.

  309. After reading the April 13th letter

  310. regarding the noti notification

  311. of surplus property at 40

    Oakland Street from the state,

  312. it's clear that the concerns of town

  313. and area residents have not been heard.

  314. Instead, the state appears

    to have created a narrative

  315. that does not reflect the reality

  316. of community input According to the state

  317. and I quote through

    community engagement efforts,

  318. the community has expressed

    a priority interest in

  319. clustering housing development on

  320. and around the existing

    parking lot, with a commitment

  321. to build not, not to build on

    the balance of the property.

  322. This assertion is deeply concerning

  323. because it does not align with

  324. what residents have

    consistently expressed.

  325. At no point have town residents

    supported clustering housing

  326. on some portion of the parking lot

  327. and an estimated density

    of 60 to 90 units per acre,

  328. which is what would

    happen if you took half

  329. of the parking lot and used

    the other half for parking.

  330. Even the density of the

    nines is far lower than that

  331. which is being proposed

    adjacent to the 80 acres

  332. of forested land known as

    centennial reservation.

  333. Residents have, have also

    never endorsed vague assurances

  334. that quote, vast majority of

    the forest will be preserved

  335. or that the, or that

    development will occur on

  336. and around the existing

    parking lot while the balance

  337. of the property will be saved.

  338. What does that even mean?

  339. These phrases lack definition

  340. and complete protection of the land.

  341. Contrary to what the state thinks, we said

  342. residents have repeatedly

    and clearly stated

  343. that the 45 acre parcel

    is not surplus land

  344. and should not be used to

    justify high density housing the

  345. highest in town in a location

    that will ruin natural lands.

  346. Over 3,400 people signed a petition

  347. to Mass Bay in the state

    expressing exactly this position.

  348. Signs throughout the town

    echo the same message.

  349. This land is not surplus.

  350. The state has chosen not

    to recognize these concerns

  351. and has offered us a false choice.

  352. Residents have consistently

    advocated for this land

  353. to remain protected as

    conservation land under the

  354. Massachusetts Constitution,

    not to be subjected

  355. to large scale housing development

  356. that would permanently alter

    its function and character.

  357. This land has many wetlands

    and wetland buffers

  358. and plays a critical role in recharging

  359. and filter, filtering our water supply,

  360. managing stormwater runoff,

    supporting wildlife habitat,

  361. and defining and maintaining

    the integrity of our,

  362. our water supply dis protection district.

  363. It also provides valuable

    recreational opportunities,

  364. including hiking trails for both the town

  365. and the broader metro west community.

  366. I know you understand these

    concerns, I know that very well.

  367. But after a full year of

    letters, public comment

  368. and petitions, it's deeply unsettling

  369. to see the state mischaracterize

    community input in a way

  370. that suggests support for proposals

  371. that have never been

    suggested by the community.

  372. What the state is proposing is not

  373. what residents of this town want.

  374. I respectfully urge you to

    do everything in your power

  375. to have this land removed

    from surplus designation

  376. and to ensure it is permanently

    protected in its entirety.

  377. Thank you.

  378. - Thank you Leslie.

  379. - That's everybody that

    signed up in advance

  380. - And yes, Wendy, please.

  381. - This from town meeting.

    Wendy Beck. Can you hear me?

  382. Wendy Beck Vaughn PZ 26 Oakland Circle.

  383. I represent ground zero

    for whatever happens.

  384. We've lived there for 35 years.

  385. We are in a catch 22

  386. because of the state's current

    law without any adjustments,

  387. which it sounds like they're

    not interested in making.

  388. So we either have to

  389. swallow hole a new entire neighborhood,

  390. very tall structure to

    accommodate the parking.

  391. And I understand there's still some issue

  392. that there might be 120 cars

    of students that might have

  393. to use some parking spaces

    in that parking lot.

  394. I don't know where that came from.

  395. So you can correct me if I'm wrong.

  396. It will end up either being a

    tower to accommodate 180 units

  397. or the land will get spilled

    out into those 40 acres

  398. every single day.

  399. If it's daylight, I can

    look out my bedroom window

  400. and something is moving

    in the woods in human

  401. and dog form every

    single day, all day long.

  402. Crack of dawn. I used to

    walk my dog into the night.

  403. It is used constantly.

  404. And just the other day I was alerted

  405. to a barred owl staring at me.

  406. I live right up to the buffer,

  407. which it's a little private way

  408. and we're gonna get swallowed

    whole Right now the street is

  409. only about eight feet wide.

  410. It's one lane in that

  411. probably ac the three

    acres are talking about the

  412. parking lot and beyond.

  413. There was a baral staring at me

  414. and then there was a piloted

    woodpecker flying around.

  415. I've seen him year after year.

  416. There was a lot of wildlife

    just in that little expanse.

  417. I saw a fisher cat one day years ago

  418. and I thought it was an otter.

  419. That was the strangest thing

    'cause they run like otters

  420. and I looked it up and

    they're, they need space.

  421. Everything needs space of

    these kinds of animals.

  422. And they will be putting rodenticide,

  423. however you say it, around

    the apartment building.

  424. And there are tons of owls.

  425. Anybody that walks centennial,

  426. you'll hear them every

    night grained horned owls.

  427. And you know the catastrophe

    that those rodenticides do.

  428. The owls eat the sitting duck

    rodents because they're sick

  429. and not able to hide.

  430. They get eaten in the owls die

  431. and bald eagles, which is horrifying.

  432. Anyway, speaking for

    that little spit of land

  433. and those very mature,

    we have giant oaks there,

  434. those very mature trees.

  435. It hopefully something can

    be done to protect that berm.

  436. 'cause they come down from

    the college, they go through

  437. that berm right across

    the street from my house

  438. and then up into the greater

    acreage of the 40 acres.

  439. Thank you. Yes,

  440. - Thank you.

  441. - I'll be super quick.

  442. - Is it still on? No, I'll be, yes.

  443. I, I'm sorry I didn't prepare anything,

  444. but I, I just thought of one thing

  445. that I don't think anyone's talk

  446. that much about Name and street.

  447. Oh, I'm so sorry. Lynn

    Youngin, 1 62 Oakland Street,

  448. the Sisters of Charity.

  449. It's in the category of planning.

  450. Like something will happen there soon.

  451. Whether they sell whatever

    happens, it's going

  452. to result in more there.

  453. They'll be closer to the forest,

  454. more building more people, whatever it is.

  455. And I just think that that

    needs to also be considered

  456. with this, that Oakland Street will

  457. and the surrounding communities

    will be dealing with more.

  458. Once that is done in addition to

  459. whatever else is done over at Mass Bay.

  460. It's not just what's

    gonna happen with this.

  461. I think that Wellesley needs

  462. to consider just the

    overall planning of what

  463. that would also mean with

    the Sisters of the charity.

  464. Thank you. Thank you for

    letting me speak without Tanya.

  465. - Anyone else? Okay.

  466. We certainly appreciate all the concerns

  467. that you have shared with us.

  468. We take this very seriously.

  469. I hope you know, from the work

    that we've sent to the state

  470. and all the comments we've made

  471. and the questions we've

    asked, we're continuing to try

  472. to make inroads and we hope

    you'll continue writing to us

  473. and coming and sharing your thoughts.

  474. So thank you all very much.

  475. - Marjorie. Let me just

    check someone just, oh,

  476. jumped in online.

  477. Ted did. Ted did you wish to speak?

  478. I just wanted to double check.

  479. - No, no, not on this matter. Thank you.

  480. - Okay, thanks.

    - Okay.

  481. - Okay, very good.

    Thank you all very much.

  482. - Thank you. Welcome.

  483. - Okay, so our next agenda

    item is citizen speak.

  484. Mr. Ty, are you here for Citizen speak

  485. - One 40?

  486. No. Okay, I'm just listening

    tonight. Thank you.

  487. - Yes. Okay. Thank you very much.

  488. Okay, in that case we'll move on

  489. to the executive director's report.

  490. - Thanks Marjorie. Just a few updates.

  491. The first is just a reminder

  492. 'cause I know it's ongoing tonight that

  493. the work begins at midnight

    for some tree work,

  494. which we're gonna have

    down in Wellesley Square.

  495. And so when you hear chainsaws tonight,

  496. we wanted to make sure

    you're aware of that.

  497. It has been noticed, but it

    is a bit uncharacteristic,

  498. but it's the best time that we can do

  499. that without disrupting the merchants.

  500. So just wanted to put

    a reminder out there.

  501. The other thing is, tomorrow

    we're having the Wellesley

  502. Climate Action Geothermal Solutions

  503. for Affordable Heating and Cooling.

  504. They are oversubscribed on

  505. that event tomorrow at the Village Church.

  506. So we look forward to

    hearing the outcomes of that.

  507. So I wanna thank Mary Beth Martello

  508. and the Climate Action

    Committee for putting that on.

  509. I think there's in the vicinity

  510. of 140 people or so signed up.

  511. So it should be a great program.

  512. The, the last thing, some

    fantastic news we'd like

  513. to share from and about

    our oldest resident, Mrs.

  514. Gertrude Gerie Hughes. So

    Gertie's birthday is happening

  515. and Gertie is, will be

    celebrating her hundred

  516. and seventh birthday.

  517. So we love sharing this.

  518. That's on April 19th, but she'll be having

  519. an event over the weekend.

  520. So we did have a resolution

  521. and we normally don't read these,

  522. but given the circumstances

    for Gardy, we, I'd like

  523. to read this on behalf of her.

  524. This is from the select board

  525. and thank you to Stephanie

    Hawkinson for assisting us

  526. with this so resolution and

    honor of Gertrude Hughes.

  527. Whereas Mrs. Gertrude Gerdy

    Hughes will celebrate her

  528. hundred and seventh

    birthday on April 19th.

  529. And is Wellesley's oldest living resident

  530. and an outstanding member of our community

  531. who throughout her long life

    has shared her wisdom, humor,

  532. creative, and athletic

    talents with all who know her.

  533. And whereas Gertie was born

    in 1919 in Flint, Michigan

  534. and was one of nine children a witness to

  535. so much history during her lifetime.

  536. She first voted in 1936 for

    President Franklin d Roosevelt

  537. and has cast her ballot in

    every election since that time

  538. with her late husband, Frederick

  539. Gerie enjoyed living in many

    states in the United States

  540. and spending five years in

    Buenos Aires, Argentina.

  541. Later in life. She

    brightened the days of others

  542. as a volunteer in the coffee shop at

  543. Newton Wellesley Hospital.

  544. And whereas Gertie is beloved

    by her twin daughters,

  545. Joan Orr and Jean Fre

  546. and their families,

    including grandchildren

  547. and great grandchildren,

    a natural athlete.

  548. She's a gifted golfer, bowler,

    tennis, and badminton player.

  549. At age 70, she took up tap dancing,

  550. performing in many local shows

  551. and wowing everyone with her high kicks.

  552. Her hobbies included gardening and sewing.

  553. And she continues to craft

    beautiful needlepoint designs

  554. treasured by family and friends.

  555. And whereas Gerie is the current holder

  556. of the ceremonial Boston Post cae.

  557. A tradition established in

    1909 by Edwin Razer, editor

  558. and publisher of the Boston Post Newspaper

  559. to recognize the oldest resident

  560. of each municipality in Massachusetts

  561. and a practice the Select

    Board is proud to continue now,

  562. though afford be it

    resolved, be the select board

  563. of the town of Wellesley, Massachusetts.

  564. Send our warm congratulations

  565. and happy birthday wishes

    to Gertrude Hughes for her

  566. contributions to our town and

    community and witness thereof.

  567. Set this hand on the 14th day of April.

  568. - Well, on behalf of the

    board, happy birthday Gertie.

  569. It's wonderful to hear all the

    things you're interested in

  570. and we hope you have a wonderful birthday

  571. with family and friends.

  572. Thank you very much to Stephanie.

  573. And that will be delivered

    to Gerie on Saturday.

  574. Okay, thanks Megan. The next

    item is our consent agenda.

  575. There are three items

    on the consent agenda,

  576. a one day license for the

    Wellesley Historical Society

  577. member event on June 17th.

  578. A mobile food vendor

    license for Oath Pizza

  579. to operate at private events

  580. and an amendment

  581. to the Lockhart Restaurant

    Entertainment license

  582. to allow limited decibel,

  583. indoor only amplification of music.

  584. Unless there are any

    comments, I'll turn it over

  585. to Colette for a motion.

  586. - So move to approve the consent agenda.

  587. - Second. All in favor? Aye.

  588. Okay, our next agenda

    item is to discuss, oh,

  589. we're not discussing, we

    are discussing one 40.

  590. We were originally gonna

    discuss a modification

  591. to the development agreement,

  592. but I'll turn it back

    over to Nathan, Megan

  593. 'cause there's been a

    late breaking change.

  594. - So just prior to the

    meeting this, this evening,

  595. about four o'clock or

    so, I did have a call

  596. with the developer as well

    as his attorney Lawrence Lee.

  597. And they have reviewed the plan,

  598. reviewed the special permit,

    and reviewed the challenges

  599. and potentially modifying

    the design for the project

  600. with regards not only through the review

  601. by the select board,

    but in particular the,

  602. the following review that would continue

  603. with the historical commission.

  604. And after consideration, they've

  605. formally withdrawn their application

  606. to amend the development agreement

  607. and will proceed under the existing terms

  608. and conditions of the,

  609. I'm gonna call it amended

    development agreement

  610. where the board had authorized

    for the porch to be removed

  611. and then reconstructed.

  612. And the applicant sought a

    special permit for the designs

  613. that the board previously approved.

  614. And my understanding is they

    will commence immediately

  615. with the renovation

  616. and addition to the

    property under the design.

  617. - Great news. Any questions or comments?

  618. I'm thrilled that the

    house is gonna be retained.

  619. Look forward to seeing that constructed.

  620. - Megan, did they give us any sense about

  621. completion? Timing?

  622. - I don't know completion timing,

  623. but my understanding is

    they are literally going

  624. to be applying for permits,

    you know, ho hopefully

  625. by the end of the week it's great.

  626. - Mr. Tai, would you

    like to comment on this

  627. or are you just listening?

  628. - Thank you. No, that, that

    was what I was listening for as

  629. some members of the board may know.

  630. I'm the HOA chairman at 1 48 next door

  631. and we've, as many of our other neighbors

  632. and other members of the

    community, we've been suffering

  633. with the way that house looks

    for the last two years since,

  634. since our community opened.

  635. And we're just anxious

    to have anything done

  636. as it's been, it's been really

    tough living next door to it.

  637. So I'm, I'm happy to hear the news

  638. and I hope that that they

    do follow through with it.

  639. - Thank you very much. As do

    we. Well that's very good news.

  640. Okay, our next agenda

    item is board assignments.

  641. And as a reminder,

  642. since we're entering

    into appointment season,

  643. the first steps in our

    appointment policy call

  644. for board liaisons to reach

    out to the chair, not staff

  645. but the chair of their appointed boards.

  646. And to ask the chair about experience

  647. or expertise the chair feels

    the board could benefit from.

  648. And then the liaison should also discuss

  649. with the full board select board

  650. to see whether the board

    has comments on experience

  651. or expertise that might complement

  652. the existing board members.

  653. The board has recently

    established two Com committees,

  654. the General Bylaw Committee

  655. and the Town Wide Capital

    Planning Committee.

  656. But before I turn to that, I

    wanted to recognize Beth for

  657. her continuing work with the

    Merchants on community events

  658. and formally reinstate her appointment

  659. as the select board's business liaison.

  660. That role for the public's

    information has the same function

  661. and parameters of other

    liaison roles as a conduit

  662. of information between the

    merchants and the board.

  663. Policy decisions are made by the board

  664. and the staff will implement

    those board decisions.

  665. Any proposals for requests

    of department action

  666. or accommodations should

    go through Cory and Megan

  667. and Beth will share her

    updates with both Corey

  668. and the board on a regular basis.

  669. I'd like to appoint Kenny to work

  670. with me on the General

    bylaw review committee

  671. and to appoint Colette

  672. and Tom on the town wide

    Capital Planning Committee

  673. with Colette serving as

    chair for the upcoming year.

  674. The citizen member

  675. of the Capital Planning

    Committee is also an appointee

  676. of the select board

  677. and will be discussed

    at the appropriate time.

  678. My understanding is that the goal would be

  679. to constitute both committees

    and have an initial meeting

  680. or two before the summer break so

  681. that when everyone reconvenes in September

  682. schedules expectations

    and norms are already set.

  683. Would you like to add

    anything to that, Colette?

  684. - Yeah, I think that

    it's helpful to let us,

  685. and especially in this

    first year, do some work

  686. to get ahead of it.

  687. The first two is gonna be the biggest,

  688. the biggest lift that we have.

  689. And I think it's really

    important as we go forward to,

  690. to think about leadership and,

  691. and on those committees as a

    deliberative step in doing all

  692. that we can to have a

    meaningful collaborative process

  693. for all the planning that we're

    doing in turnaround capital.

  694. So yeah, I think it's,

  695. I appreciate you making

    those appointments now

  696. and giving us a chance to

    get started on that work.

  697. - Moving on to our annual

    town meeting debrief,

  698. we had four items on the

    agenda to discuss the order

  699. of the warrant, audio visual

    challenges, separate motions

  700. for town and school budgets,

  701. and to set dates for

    the annual town meeting.

  702. So let's discuss the order of the warrant.

  703. As everyone knows, we had a motion

  704. to withdraw from the consent

    agenda articles that required

  705. appropriation until after the presentation

  706. of the town wide financial plan.

  707. So my proposal for next

    year would be to do non

  708. appropriation articles on

    night one after the ceremony

  709. and then begin night two

    as we did this year with

  710. town wide financial plan and

    municipal and school budgets.

  711. And as this board discussed

    last year, I'd like us

  712. to consider grouping the

    rest of the articles by board

  713. or department primarily

    for staff and presenters.

  714. But I think it will also

    help newer town meter

  715. meeting members see more

    of a full compliment of

  716. what a board or department

    does as opposed to doing them

  717. in appropriations and authorizations

  718. and perhaps another section.

  719. And so those are my thoughts

  720. and happy to have other thoughts.

  721. - I mean I, I think I try

  722. and reflect back on what,

    what it was we were trying

  723. to achieve with the structure that we

  724. had planned for this year.

  725. I, I do think it's really

    helpful for time meeting members

  726. to have a little bit of runway.

  727. So you have time wide financial

    plan, which is talking about

  728. the current year and the out years

  729. and then the budget for the

    current year in the same night

  730. because the way

  731. that you vote on the current

    budget might be affected by

  732. what you see is coming down the pike.

  733. And I just think it's,

    I mean the intention was

  734. to be helpful to town meeting members

  735. to let them have a full picture

  736. and a chance to have all of

  737. that done in one night with the same,

  738. the same body being there.

  739. I think it's a great

    goal and I think it's a,

  740. I think this is a good plan to achieve it.

  741. You know, I, I'm looking

    at what happened in

  742. time meeting this past year,

    time wide financial plan,

  743. took an hour, supplementals

    took 15 minutes,

  744. there's a break for 15 minutes.

  745. The municipal budget

    took about 17 minutes,

  746. the school budget took about 80 minutes.

  747. That's including questions

  748. and deliberations and things like that.

  749. So it is possible for

    sure to do all of the sort

  750. of big budget financial in one night.

  751. And I think it's a really

    good goal to try and achieve.

  752. And so I I'm, I'm very

    supportive of, you know,

  753. thinking about what can we put

  754. in night one for the ceremony.

  755. The ceremony and

    resolutions took 30 minutes.

  756. So with that and everything

    else, we, you know, we, we need

  757. to put more things in night one,

  758. I do think it's a really good idea to have

  759. the board presentations put together.

  760. I thought it was a great flow

    to have DPW sort of having,

  761. almost owning a night.

  762. I, I thought that was very

    effective. So that's where I am.

  763. Yeah, so I, I

  764. - Actually think it's too overwhelming

  765. to do the town wide financial

    plan and the budgets.

  766. I think town meeting at its

    heart is a business meeting

  767. and I think when you

    have a business meeting,

  768. you set the table first

  769. and you give people the

    big flyover of where we are

  770. and where we're going and then

    everything flows under that.

  771. I, I think maybe we could

    have gotten them both

  772. in on one night this year.

  773. I don't think we can always count on that.

  774. And I, I think it is fairer to people

  775. to give them the high level

    town wide financial plan,

  776. let it sit overnight and then

    the next night do the budgets.

  777. So I, I actually think

    having a little space

  778. and I'm trying to think

  779. how many non appropriation things we have

  780. that would fill up one night

    and whether that would yield,

  781. - Well we have hr,

    - A satisfying experience,

  782. - Classification and salary

    plans, revolving funds,

  783. authorizations, other things,

  784. bylaw changes, enterprise funds. Yeah,

  785. - Yeah, I just, for me,

    I think there's a logic

  786. to having the town wide

    financial plan first

  787. as a business meeting and then

    doing the budget separately.

  788. I do think we want people

    to be, have the time to

  789. absorb the town wide financial plan and

  790. although, I mean it was an

    excellent, excellent document.

  791. It's also a really long document

  792. and it doesn't arrive

    through no one's fault

  793. that nothing arrives very

    much ahead of town meeting

  794. and that's despite best efforts.

  795. So I think it's unreasonable to expect

  796. that people are gonna

    have weighted through

  797. and I thought Megan did a

    really excellent job setting

  798. that high level view.

  799. The slides were great and

    everything told the story really

  800. well, but separating 'em

    I think is advantageous.

  801. - Tom,

    - I think it's important to remember that

  802. where this started, the, the concept

  803. of reordering the warrant is

  804. because the duplication in

    the presentations was tiresome

  805. between the town wide

    financial plan and the budget.

  806. I, I don't think it's a

    matter of absorbing, needing

  807. to absorb one piece.

  808. I I, I think frankly

  809. the town wide financial

    plan absent the graphs

  810. and charts is an extremely

    readable document now far more

  811. than it was when I was

    first on this board.

  812. So I, I do think people can

    make their way through that.

  813. But I think the whole

    goal here is to be able

  814. to adjust the presentations so

  815. that the flow from the

    town wide financial plan

  816. through the budgets allows

    for shorter presentations

  817. with less duplication.

  818. And I think that's

  819. what captures town meeting's

    attention and makes this

  820. - Move faster.

  821. - Thank you Kenny.

    - So I guess conceptually,

  822. I think having all the,

    like the financial plan

  823. and the budgets in the

    same place at the same

  824. time makes a lot of sense.

  825. But I just did collette's math

  826. and so that's 240 minutes.

  827. So if you start at seven o'clock,

  828. we're going till 11 o'clock under that.

  829. And I think

  830. that will have a negative

    effect on if we did it the same

  831. way where the school is in, in that p,

  832. those four elements.

  833. So ceremony town wide,

    financial plan, town budget,

  834. school budget, the impetus

    for the school budget was

  835. to have a robust discussion about it.

  836. And I feel like, you know,

    just looking at the audience,

  837. you start seeing people leaving

    at 10 o'clock by 11 o'clock.

  838. I think there's a lot of people

  839. who are checked out on night one.

  840. So while I do conceptually

    think that makes sense

  841. to do it all together,

  842. I just don't know logistically

    if we can pull that off.

  843. - Right. I think what you're, and it's

  844. 'cause I've got it all, well it's not

  845. that I've got it all in one list,

  846. but you would be taking the ceremony away.

  847. So the second night would be only,

  848. so it'd be an hour financial plan

  849. for the time financial plan

    basically just over an hour

  850. for the municipal budget,

    just over an hour for school.

  851. So that's like, you know,

  852. like three something hours

    you put your break in.

  853. That's a time meeting night.

  854. - I personally think that

    would be fine if you got rid

  855. of the ceremony, well be a separate night.

  856. Yeah. I also think could be

    shortened significantly. Yeah.

  857. And I like really, really significantly.

  858. - I also think that this was

    the first year we did the town

  859. wide financial plan and the budget

  860. and there may be, you know, 10, 15 minutes

  861. that we could further

    streamline those presentations

  862. and you know, maybe check in

  863. with Megan A. Little bit more

    about what the chair says

  864. because I did say a few things

  865. that Megan was going to say too.

  866. Okay. Mark still believes

    that the two pieces

  867. of the budget need to stay together

  868. and I think that's very

    fair both for the people

  869. who are hearing it, the

    people who are voting on it

  870. and on the same night.

  871. So we can give this feedback to Mark

  872. next audio visual challenges.

  873. - Mark, can I just one question

    on that presentation. Yeah.

  874. So would we still have the

    actual appropriations go

  875. after capital plan and budget?

  876. Yes. I think that logic

    made a lot of sense. Yes.

  877. - The only thing on that you just need

  878. to consider potentially is the order

  879. of the consent agenda, right?

  880. So we're not in the same issue,

  881. the same situation we were today,

  882. - This year.

  883. Can you do two consent agendas?

  884. So if you broke the

    financial stuff up from

  885. - You could non financial

    you, you absolutely could.

  886. - You could have two

    articles of consent. Yeah.

  887. One non appropriation, one appropriation.

  888. We could do the consent agenda later.

  889. - Yeah, I mean the other thing

    I, I was just thinking about

  890. when you were just reviewing that is,

  891. so the bylaw requires us to

    give it orally to town meeting,

  892. which the town financial

  893. plan part of the general bylaw committee.

  894. But we could film that in advance.

  895. I mean we had the town wide

    financial plan completed

  896. at the start of March.

  897. We distributed the letter

  898. to all residents which

    had the link to that.

  899. So every resident technically had the link

  900. to the IDE financial plan well in advance

  901. of the advisory report that included that.

  902. So we could prepare

  903. because we had a a, we have to prepare the

  904. presentation essentially

    for advisory committee.

  905. And so in terms of, you

    know, that overview,

  906. so you could do a more succinct

    presentation potentially at

  907. town meeting, but you could

    do a fuller presentation

  908. and have it recorded. Just

    throwing that out there.

  909. - Well and that would only

    require taking the requirement

  910. of an oral presentation at town meeting

  911. 'cause it would still be

    presented to town meeting,

  912. but the AV audio visual

    presentation would be in advance,

  913. which gives people more time

    to digest it and read it. It's

  914. - Just a thought.

  915. - Yeah,

    - I think that's yes

  916. and you know, you could do that.

  917. So people who, who like to,

    there are certain people like

  918. to prep beforehand, give them a chance

  919. and then some people like to

    hear things twice or more.

  920. And so you, you can listen to it once

  921. and then you can listen

    to it in the meeting.

  922. - Okay. Work for the bylaw

    review committee already. Okay.

  923. So av Megan, what would you

    like to tell us about av?

  924. - So I mean I think there was a, a couple

  925. of different issues going on.

  926. I think we'll continue to work on the,

  927. the tech component of it.

  928. I think Wellesley Media,

  929. it, it was not the equipment on their end.

  930. I think the challenge was the sound board

  931. and so we'll certainly work and,

  932. and I think they've tried

    to work out some of the

  933. kinks on it with the staff

  934. and I think there was different

    people there each night.

  935. So from, which is fine,

  936. but I think we've all had a,

  937. they all had from the school

    staff a taste of the issues

  938. so they all helped us

    try and correct them.

  939. So I think we're at a

    point where we, we can come

  940. to consensus on how it best operated.

  941. The other major issue, which

    Brian DuPont largely identified

  942. is the speaker that sits on the stand.

  943. So when we heard it the best,

    I would say night one is when

  944. we heard it great

  945. because the speaker was

    focusing more on mark.

  946. So when the speaker changed

    more to the audience,

  947. so they were hearing it better.

  948. I know for us it was really

    challenging to hear as well as,

  949. and then some on the far

    side of the audience.

  950. So that speaker that is

    particularly for Mark,

  951. we think we're gonna either

    replace it or move it or,

  952. and I don't recall 'cause

    we were trying to recall,

  953. I don't remember the, the

    prior moderators having that.

  954. And so that we do think is

    throwing off the sound projection

  955. because you have it going in two ways

  956. and keep in mind the stage

    is really meant to project

  957. not from the floor to project,

  958. which is also causing some of the issues.

  959. So we, they have been

    really evaluating this,

  960. but we think that speaker is actually one

  961. of the major issues with

    the, with the sound.

  962. So we either can reposition it,

  963. maybe have it come from

    the side or the back be

  964. because of the angle from

  965. where the audio was was being relayed.

  966. So, and James at the later

    meetings was bringing his own

  967. equipment as well to try and

    resolve some of the issues.

  968. So, you know, the goosenecks

    obviously work better

  969. and I think we've resolved

    it in terms of having

  970. a higher table.

  971. Poor Dave Cohen is so tall,

  972. but I think it actually made

    this, the microphone closer

  973. to everyone's mouths to do that.

  974. So we'll continue to evaluate that.

  975. But the speaker is the issue

  976. because if you might recall

    too, even when we were at the,

  977. the middle school, which

    we really haven't had

  978. that many sound issues except for one,

  979. remember there was like

    one speaker blown one

  980. time, but that was fixed.

  981. There still was some garble

  982. and that's when we had started

    implementing the speaker.

  983. So it's either the connection with that

  984. or just the, the variability

    in the sound sort

  985. of going back towards the sage

  986. and then from the sage that

    we also think is causing

  987. some of the issues

  988. - We should get a remote control rising

  989. and lowering flat of, you know,

  990. - We're hoping actually to have

  991. something like that here at town hall.

  992. I think actually Glen has ordered it so

  993. that it's a DA compliant

    actually so that we can,

  994. we can have it rise and

    fall to the speaker. Yeah,

  995. - There there's one thing Roger, can we,

  996. sorry, go ahead Colette.

  997. I've, I've gone back to time meeting

  998. to watch it a little bit

    to catch one or two things.

  999. Actually when I was trying

    to work out how much time you

  1000. spent on stuff, sometimes

    even when you were as

  1001. as chair was going to the

    podium, when you made the motion

  1002. to lay on the table, you

    could barely hear it.

  1003. And so I, I don't know if

    there's some testing we do

  1004. beforehand on like does

    it work for the audience?

  1005. Does it work for Mark? Does it work

  1006. for Wellesley Media? But

    that needs to get done.

  1007. - The main issue with tests,

    the main issue with testing is

  1008. that sound changes

  1009. dramatically in an empty

    auditorium than when there are 200

  1010. town meeting members

    sitting in the auditorium.

  1011. It really dampens

  1012. and tamps down on re

    reverberation echo all that.

  1013. So it's hard to test

    how the system is set up

  1014. before town meeting gavels into session.

  1015. Maybe we can talk with the AV people ahead

  1016. of special town meeting about

    doing a quick sound test

  1017. for like five minutes

  1018. before we actually start the

    business when town meeting

  1019. members are sitting down just

  1020. to see if they can make last

    minute tweaks to positions

  1021. of either speakers and or microphones.

  1022. But that's the only way

  1023. because we did ask Jonah the,

  1024. the sound guy at the high school

    about doing a sound test on

  1025. night three and he was

    like, there's no reason to

  1026. because it's all gonna change

  1027. the second time meeting starts. I

  1028. - Forgot they said that.

    That's absolute point.

  1029. - Could we get 150 kids to volunteer

  1030. to come in for a little bit?

  1031. - But couldn't you have them

    test it when they have some

  1032. type of assembly

  1033. and note where they've putting

    everything and whether or not it worked?

  1034. - I think that's a better idea.

  1035. - Yeah. And but I think

    when they do it, it's, it's

  1036. that front speaker, you know,

  1037. 'cause it's unique to the moderator

  1038. but we, we think we've,

    we don't wanna say we it

  1039. and James

  1040. and the sound, all the sound te the

  1041. auditorium team tech people.

  1042. Yeah the tech people at the

    schools I think have identified

  1043. some ways for us to improve it.

  1044. - I just have to say James

    was an amazing trooper when we

  1045. thought we were gonna have

    to move outta the auditorium.

  1046. He's like, that's fine, I'll

    bring my own sound board,

  1047. I'll run my chords, I'll stand

    in the little alcove here,

  1048. I'll do whatever I need to do.

  1049. He was great. He really

    was very accommodating.

  1050. He would've done anything Beth.

  1051. - So I, I agree this,

  1052. I I don't know any town meeting

    members that didn't have

  1053. a really frustrating environmental

    experience with the audio

  1054. and each night it was different, right?

  1055. So there was no predictability

    better on television,

  1056. some nights better in person,

    some nights it just changed

  1057. so much each night.

  1058. And I felt horrible for

    the all the tech people

  1059. because they all were trying

  1060. so hard for me.

  1061. I think there's a bigger issue about

  1062. that space in the high school

  1063. because it, the layout of it

  1064. I think doesn't give a sense of community.

  1065. So when you look out, it looks empty.

  1066. So when you, and I'm sure

    Colette, you saw this,

  1067. when you look at town

    meeting on television,

  1068. it looks like there's no one there,

  1069. there are 200 people there,

    but it looks so vacant

  1070. and I think, you know, at the

    break even there's not as much

  1071. of a vibe

  1072. and then the ceremonial piece

  1073. is really cramped.

  1074. People speaking, it's a very, it,

  1075. the ergonomics of it seem challenging.

  1076. So I, I would like to

    have a look at going back

  1077. to the middle school and to

    Megan's point, we haven't had as

  1078. many acoustic issues over time.

  1079. There. We've had dramatic issues

  1080. but we haven't had persistent issues.

  1081. And I just think there's a

    lot to be said about a space

  1082. that drives people to feel more connected

  1083. to one another. And

  1084. - There's a lot of issues, right?

  1085. There's parking James, it's much easier

  1086. for James at the high school.

  1087. There's a a lot of logistical questions

  1088. and of course the one that none

  1089. of us can control is the school schedule,

  1090. which is why we're setting

    dates a year in advance

  1091. so we can kind of preempt their

  1092. or influence their scheduling so

  1093. that we can have town meeting

    when we need to have it.

  1094. - I'm just thinking Marjorie

    about our special town meeting

  1095. and we really do want a sense of community

  1096. and a sense of teamwork

  1097. and a sense of working

    together to get somewhere.

  1098. And I think the, I don't

    know if it's the slope

  1099. or the tightness or the

    way those aisles are,

  1100. but it does have a

    tighter community feeling

  1101. and it may be something worth exploring.

  1102. - Okay, Tom? - I, I actually

    was gonna raise something else

  1103. and want to, but I, I have to say on this,

  1104. I squarely agree with Beth.

  1105. I, I think it is a much

    better experience as a,

  1106. as the community of town

    meeting at the middle school.

  1107. And I realize I, I realize

    that there are some

  1108. negatives associated with it,

  1109. but I don't recall having the

    level of physical discomfort

  1110. that people were having at the high

  1111. school, at the middle school.

  1112. I don't think we were

    having the same audio visual

  1113. issues at, at the, at the middle school.

  1114. I I, I think that's

    right on on this point,

  1115. but I was gonna raise

    the H-V-A-C-I was having

  1116. conversations with Joe during

    the day before each night.

  1117. There was only one night that

    it was uniformly comfortable

  1118. in that, in that hall I was

    watching people put their

  1119. jackets on it.

  1120. It was physically just uncomfortable.

  1121. Now I think part of this is, I,

  1122. I don't know why we're not roping off some

  1123. of the seats on the side and

  1124. and instructing people

    to sit in the middle.

  1125. I think that would help. I mean

    what Joe's doing is logical,

  1126. which is setting the hall

    to occupant to occupy,

  1127. but it's not occupied the

    way people are spread out and

  1128. therefore it over chills

  1129. and I think it's very

    difficult for people to make it

  1130. through the whole night

    if they're physically

  1131. uncomfortable To that extent,

  1132. - Well we should, you

    know, take note of all

  1133. of these considerations

    and we'll have to balance

  1134. and see what's available

  1135. and what works the best

    for the most number

  1136. of those considerations in

    town meeting members. And I

  1137. - Just wanna raise the point

  1138. and touch on it a little bit, Margie,

  1139. but we have had a survey

  1140. before where time meeting

    members said they preferred the

  1141. high school for a number of reasons.

  1142. I know people have

    different opinions on that

  1143. and we did have somebody really fall

  1144. and really hurt themselves

    at the middle school

  1145. - And I do appreciate that Colette.

  1146. Yeah, but we had an earlier survey

  1147. that preferred the middle school, right?

  1148. - So I mean people have

    different opinions. It

  1149. - Depends on the group.

  1150. - Yeah. So I, I mean there're

    certainly, I mean there,

  1151. there might not have been an

    audio, audio issues at the

  1152. middle school, but there's a lot of visual

  1153. issues at the middle school.

  1154. - Yeah, yeah, right.

  1155. So we're probably never

    gonna get every something

  1156. that everybody loves, but

    we'll try to get it better

  1157. for the most of the factors

    that we need to consider

  1158. separating school and town

    budget motions for me,

  1159. because enrollment is dynamic

  1160. and we're always going

    to have an examination

  1161. of shared costs

  1162. and direct costs, I like

    seeing them separately.

  1163. So I would

  1164. support keeping the

    two budgets in separate

  1165. motions going forward.

  1166. Others?

  1167. - So Marjorie, I agree with you

  1168. and I think it was the first

    year so we didn't have a lot

  1169. of conversation, but

  1170. that doesn't mean there won't

    be conversation on either

  1171. one moving forward.

  1172. I just think it, it's a good

    chance to take a break and talk

  1173. and then let people

    focus on the next thing.

  1174. I thought it worked really well

  1175. - And now we know how to do it.

  1176. - The other thing, I got a lot

  1177. of positive feedback

    about the chief speaking

  1178. and I think if you think

    about what happened

  1179. with the enterprise fund presentations

  1180. and the chief speaking,

  1181. I think there's a desire

    in the community to get

  1182. a little bit of education

    about what's going on

  1183. with the departments and

    put a face on the facility.

  1184. And I would urge us to look

    at not long presentations,

  1185. but just like a quickie on what's new.

  1186. I know it's not a budget

    thing, but what's new

  1187. or what's changed or what's

    something in the key departments

  1188. where the community

    places high value on them

  1189. and we want that kind of

    sense of trust and loyalty.

  1190. - I think that's something

    that Mark Kaplan would like

  1191. to raise at the debrief at the all board.

  1192. - So my question, so I I liked

    the separate presentation.

  1193. My, my question was just for staff, now

  1194. that we've figured it out, I know it was

  1195. a heavy lift in the first year.

  1196. What's the maintenance

    of that going forward?

  1197. - Well now that we have the allocated

  1198. how we would break up the budget

    based upon particular line

  1199. item, obviously subject

  1200. to change based upon programmatic needs,

  1201. I think it's easier to employ.

  1202. I do think as we evaluate

    the year end breakout,

  1203. I think some of that likely

    would, that agreement MOU

  1204. that we have with the

    schools would likely need

  1205. to be enhanced a little bit

    to make sure that we continue

  1206. to capture everything.

  1207. We, we broke some things

    out, we obviously went down

  1208. to a very fine level,

  1209. but, you know, once you

    establish the forms,

  1210. and I really want to thank Paul Mangano

  1211. for spending a substantial

    amount of time on that along

  1212. with Rachel and Tiana.

  1213. We have the process now

  1214. and we, we worked that out

    with all of the departments.

  1215. So I think it's easier to

    each year, you know, it's,

  1216. it's no different than once

    you have the, the forms

  1217. for the capital budgets

    or the main budgets.

  1218. Like, you know, how to

    fill the form out now.

  1219. - So I I, I would like to

    see that going forward.

  1220. And I just wanted to add to

    Beth's comment about the Chiefs.

  1221. I did also have a couple

    conversations on that

  1222. and when, actually I think Margie was

  1223. with me when I was

    sharing with the resident

  1224. who was asking me that

    we had the chiefs come in

  1225. and update us quarterly for

    a pretty lengthy discussion.

  1226. You know, that resident really

    appreciated knowing that

  1227. and was gonna go and watch those meetings.

  1228. So I think what we could do

    is maybe send a blast out,

  1229. a periodic blast to time meeting

    members when we have things

  1230. like either department heads or chiefs

  1231. or like, you know, last

    year we did a thing

  1232. where we had the boards that be

  1233. appoint come and speak to us.

  1234. I think it'd be helpful to

    let time meeting members know

  1235. then, because I think the

    presentation by necessity needs

  1236. to be focused on appropriation.

  1237. But we have, you know, 20

    minutes, half an hour conversation

  1238. with the chiefs about what's

    happening in the department,

  1239. which I think is much richer.

  1240. And then our, our questions in back

  1241. and forward adds a lot to it.

  1242. So I think that we need

  1243. to let time meeting members

    know when that's happening

  1244. and saying, heads up, you

    know, this, this is happening,

  1245. this, the quarterly updates

    happening on this date.

  1246. We encourage you to watch

    it to get to know the chiefs

  1247. - Because the chiefs are so busy.

  1248. Megan sets the schedule

  1249. for their quarterly updates

    far enough in advance

  1250. that we should be able to

    include it in the w you know,

  1251. heads up folks, the

    chiefs are coming in two

  1252. weeks or whatever.

  1253. - And we even could, I

    mean to Colette's point,

  1254. do a targeted email yes.

  1255. To all town meeting members

    from the select board office

  1256. to let them know the public

    safety update when our

  1257. legislative delegation

    comes to do their update.

  1258. But to that point, I

    think it's a good idea.

  1259. - That's a good idea. Tom.

  1260. - I I couldn't agree more.

  1261. And I, you know, after the fact

    we can send out a link and,

  1262. and the fact that it was done, the, one

  1263. of the reasons I I am so supportive

  1264. of this idea is I am very wary.

  1265. We have spent a lot of time creating

  1266. efficiency within town meeting i,

  1267. it really is going backwards to begin

  1268. to have individual

    departmental presentations.

  1269. And I think you have to

    be very leery of assuming

  1270. that it can be done in five

    minutes, for example, just

  1271. to pick a number and

  1272. because sometimes you're

    going to get in trouble

  1273. and it's gonna end up with

    a lot of misunderstanding

  1274. and the need for a much

    longer presentation than when

  1275. it was ever intended.

  1276. So I think trying to

    make the community aware

  1277. of who's coming to our meetings

    when, you know, for example,

  1278. we could have notified people

  1279. of the discussion about the

    DPW campus feasibility study.

  1280. That was a, that's a

    significant expenditure for a,

  1281. an expensive project.

  1282. People might want to watch

    it either live or later.

  1283. So I think we could be doing

    more of this about our meetings

  1284. with upcoming agendas.

  1285. - The other thing that

    does is it gives people

  1286. multiple exposures to the

    department in terms of

  1287. what they're doing, which

    they can then relate

  1288. to the budget presentation

    or the budget that they read.

  1289. Oh, I see this is the

    result of them doing this

  1290. or this is the cost of them doing that.

  1291. They can, you know, pair the two together.

  1292. If they see the presentations

    in advance of town meeting,

  1293. they can put them together.

  1294. That's a great idea. Yeah. Okay.

  1295. So we like the split budget motions,

  1296. ATM 2027.

  1297. - One other thing I thought

    we should think about,

  1298. which is the use of electronic voting.

  1299. I thought there were a lot

    of places where it made a lot

  1300. of sense just to do the voice vote

  1301. and I personally like

  1302. that it instills a little

    more energy into the room

  1303. and it kind of moves certain things along.

  1304. I think we should maybe look

    at using it a little bit more

  1305. because you don't know

    how many people are there

  1306. at the beginning and the end.

  1307. And I think looking at the

    cadence of using the electronic

  1308. voting a little bit more just so

  1309. that we have some accountability

    is worth thinking about.

  1310. - That was one of the original

    purposes of getting it.

  1311. I also would like to raise

    getting attendance published.

  1312. It used to be in the Townsman.

  1313. I think it's really important

    for residents to know which

  1314. of their town meeting members

    are attending town, meeting

  1315. from meeting to meet, I mean, from fall

  1316. to spring over their term.

  1317. It's, it's very important.

  1318. - On, on that point,

  1319. and this is not my idea,

    somebody else said it to me

  1320. and I don't remember who, but,

  1321. and I don't know if

    you can do this or not,

  1322. but can you put on the ballot

    the percentage of attendance

  1323. of a town meeting member

    who is up for reelection?

  1324. - I don't know if you can do that.

  1325. - I would want to know that.

    I don't know. We can ask

  1326. - Casey for sure.

  1327. Or it could be, it could

    be published, you know,

  1328. after town meeting and

    again, before elections. We,

  1329. - We had the conversation

    a bit today actually,

  1330. because interestingly,

  1331. I think the town clerk would

    say we should eliminate

  1332. electronic voting because

    it town meeting goes faster

  1333. and it's very costly.

  1334. And I said, well, it's exactly,

    I said basically verbatim

  1335. what Beth just said is, I

    said, it's accountability.

  1336. And so certainly you

    could get accountability,

  1337. a check-in in terms of who shows up.

  1338. But you, you don't get then who stayed

  1339. for the entire duration.

  1340. And so we, we had actually

    had that conversation.

  1341. Well, we can publish the,

    the check-in, you know,

  1342. we can work with Casey on that,

  1343. but we can certainly ask about the,

  1344. for the ballot.

  1345. - Yeah, because I think

    there's a huge percentage

  1346. of the town that's not

    paying attention at that,

  1347. that may show up in vote.

  1348. And I think that would be

    information in real time

  1349. that would be very interesting to people.

  1350. - Right. The problem with

    doing it on check-in is

  1351. that people leave during the meeting.

  1352. Right. But one,

  1353. - You, you, I'm sorry,

  1354. I was just gonna say it's

    a very interesting idea,

  1355. but I'm wondering, I don't

    know the answer to this.

  1356. If there wouldn't be some

    strong challenges based on,

  1357. you know, there's a difference

    between the woman, the,

  1358. excuse me, the person who

    just decides, I'm gonna go

  1359. to Arizona for a week in

    the middle of town meeting,

  1360. that's just my time

  1361. to play golf versus somebody

    who's ill, I mean, who has COVID?

  1362. So I don't know how you differentiate

  1363. between the 75% attendance in the person

  1364. where it's legitimate

  1365. or a public health issue versus not when

  1366. it's published on the ballot.

  1367. - Well that's why I said from

    meeting, from town meeting

  1368. to town meeting, because

    you could get a pattern

  1369. and if town meeting members

    wanna know, I mean they could,

  1370. I mean, if residents wanna

    know, they could talk

  1371. to their town meeting members. Well

  1372. - I, I'll say that when I

    ran for time meeting, I, the,

  1373. the townsman published it

  1374. and I looked at it to see,

    I mean is there anybody you

  1375. know who doesn't go?

  1376. Everybody attended

    attendance, like fell off

  1377. during COVID has never come back.

  1378. So, and I know people can be sick.

  1379. They'll tell you when I looked

    at that, everybody attended

  1380. - What during one of the

    votes we had 180 town meeting

  1381. members was 25% down. That's a lot.

  1382. - Were over 200 much.

  1383. - No, maybe what maybe one.

    Maybe the last night. One

  1384. - Night.

  1385. Yeah, the last night.

  1386. - Okay. So annual town meeting is is

  1387. March 29th, 30th, April 5th, sixth, 12th,

  1388. and 13th at a location TBD for ATM 27.

  1389. The fall special town

    meeting is November 9th, 10th

  1390. and 16th at the high school.

  1391. And if folks are tuning in

  1392. after the beginning of our

    meeting, the board is going

  1393. to schedule a special

    town meeting in May to

  1394. get input from town meeting members

  1395. and residents on their

    preferred course of action

  1396. or actions with respect to Mass Bay

  1397. and 40 Oakland Street.

  1398. Mark and Madison would both

    like to speak at the all board.

  1399. So I will send Mark the draft tomorrow.

  1400. We spoke with Tom

  1401. and I met with Madison this

    morning so we know what he wants

  1402. to say, but I'd prefer

    not to paraphrase Mark

  1403. and let him say it the

    way he wants to say it.

  1404. Our next agenda item is

    administrative matters

  1405. and we have four sets of minutes.

  1406. - So on three sets of

    minutes, they were very,

  1407. very minor edits.

  1408. There was one edit pointed out to me

  1409. that might res require some discussion on

  1410. February 24, 20, 26 minutes.

  1411. Line one 13 there was a

    proposed strike through,

  1412. but another board member

    wants to keep it in.

  1413. That's the only thing that

    might warrant some discussion.

  1414. Otherwise it seemed like

    it was just ministerial.

  1415. Okay, let me go back. Line one 13

  1416. on the two February 24th.

  1417. 2026 minutes. Okay.

  1418. - And that, that was me that

    requested to keep that the

  1419. - Winter supplement.

  1420. - No, this is the

    February 24th line one 13.

  1421. It's the right before that.

  1422. So the board members appreciated

    the comprehensive planning

  1423. but requested time to

    review the detailed proposal

  1424. as it was received just prior to me. Oh,

  1425. - Sorry.

  1426. It's 1 0 9. I guess the other

    edits Bumped it down, sorry.

  1427. 1 0 9 in your packets.

  1428. - It's one 13. One 13 in mine. Sorry.

  1429. So I that, that was my

    comment during the meeting

  1430. because I would've given comments

  1431. during the meeting but I didn't have time.

  1432. And I have actually, it reminded me

  1433. that I need to send them informally.

  1434. I've given informal comments to staff,

  1435. but I'd prefer to keep that in.

  1436. - That's fine.

    - Okay.

  1437. - So do you want me to make

    a motion? So let me just see.

  1438. Move to approve the minutes of,

  1439. - Lemme

    - See.

  1440. April 6th, 2026. April 7th, 2026.

  1441. February 10th, 2026 and

    February 24. 2026 as amended.

  1442. - Second.

    - All in favor?

  1443. - Aye. Aye.

    - Alright.

  1444. Our next agenda item is

    an executive session.

  1445. I request a motion to enter

    into executive session

  1446. to conduct strategy with

    respect to bargaining

  1447. with the Wellesley

    Firefighters library staff

  1448. and Supervisor Association

    and the custodian unions.

  1449. As I declare, having such

    discussions in open session

  1450. may be detrimental to the town.

  1451. - So let me just find my motion.

  1452. - Sorry.

    - Okay,

  1453. move to enter executive

    session under Mass General Law

  1454. chapter 30, subsection 21,

    A three to conduct strategy

  1455. with respect to negotiations

  1456. with the Wellesley Free

    Library Staff Association

  1457. and Wellesley Free Library

    Supervisor Association

  1458. and the A-F-S-M-E Local

    49 Custodian Association.

  1459. As the chair is declared

  1460. that having such discussions

    in open session is detrimental

  1461. to the town's position.

  1462. And to invite executive

    director Megan Chop,

  1463. assistant executive director Corey Testa,

  1464. HR director Dolores Hamilton.

  1465. Who else are we inviting?

  1466. - I think library's still on,

  1467. but you can add in case they're available.

  1468. To jump on Marla Robinson

    and Jamie Jergensen,

  1469. - Our library director Jamie Jergensen

  1470. and board of library

    trustees chair Marla Robinson

  1471. to executives and no.

  1472. Okay. To executive session

  1473. - Second.

  1474. Beth Aye. Kenny Aye. Tom Aye.

  1475. Colette Aye. And I vote Aye as well.

  1476. So we will come out of executive session

  1477. for the sole purpose of

    adjourning the meeting

  1478. and our next meeting is,

  1479. could be April 27th. Our

  1480. - Next scheduled meeting is

    April 28th at the moment.

  1481. - Okay. Next scheduled meeting,

    April 28th and then May 5th

  1482. and May 12th is the all board meeting.

  1483. - So I need to actually,

    I forgot to put the,

  1484. to exit executive session

  1485. for the sole person

    adjourning onto my motion.

  1486. So I'm adding that in. Corey, sorry.

  1487. - While we're waiting for

    Wells Media to jump off,

  1488. I'm passing around the

    formal resolution for Gerdy

  1489. that when he gets to UK.