Select Board April 14, 2026
Select Board April 14, 2026
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- Why are you not starting?
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- I'm try. I tried.
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One is stuck sort of open,
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but that's as far as I could get to stick.
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I emailed Patrice and asked
him to play on with it. So
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- He comes,
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okay, well
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- We can all talk about
what a beautiful day
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- It was.
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- That absolutely.
- Okay, now hold on.
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- And the town is starting
to spring to life for May
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as this town's and we
appreciate this new session.
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Yes, we do. We're done with snow
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all dressed up for the marathon.
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- Keep forgetting it's Monday
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- And it's gonna be 48 on Monday.
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Awesome. Great. I think a tailwind.
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- Okay, mark Mar.
- Okay, we're we are.
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Good evening everyone.
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We are back in open session
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and as many of you know,
we have amended our agenda
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to provide a public status
update on 40 Oakland Street.
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The town received two pieces
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of electronic communication
from the Commonwealth on Friday,
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one from the Executive Office of Housing
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and Livable Communities HLC.
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The letter did not answer
any of the questions
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that we sent in our January 9th letter.
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What the letter did say is
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that the Commonwealth is pursuing
housing projects statewide
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with a sense of urgency
responding to the seriousness
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of the housing crisis.
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They're working with the town to try
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to build 180 homes on Oakland Street
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to enhance the community and
complement the town's housing
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and planning goals.
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Those, those goals could be achieved
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by concentrating
development of the units on
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and around the parking area
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and permanently conserving
the balance of the parcel,
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which does not enjoy
such protection today.
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HLC has had an ongoing
relationship with some groups
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of Wellesley residents since early 2025.
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The select board did not know
about this until September.
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According to HLC, they have
been responsive to our community
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for our request for community input
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and have adjusted their
schedule to accommodate us.
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They anticipated our questions
to pertain to planning
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considerations, but believe
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that our questions exceeded the
scope of what they expected.
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The community has expressed
a priority interest in
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clustering the housing development on
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and around the existing parking
area with a commitment not
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to build on the rest of the property,
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which they are prepared to do.
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They're prepared to require the developer
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to offer a conservation
restriction to a qualified entity
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of the town's choosing
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and to require the developer to comply
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with our inclusionary zoning requirements
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of 20% affordable units.
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They said our questions on
local permitting authority were
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answered in the regulations.
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If you saw our letter last
week, you saw we had a lot
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of comments about the fact
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that we had questions
about the regulations
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and they are continuing
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to work towards a July,
2026 release of an RFP.
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So that's what the state said.
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The second letter from the Department
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of Capital Asset Management
and maintenance DCAM
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provided the 30 day official notice
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that Oakland Street has been
determined to be surplus
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by the Commonwealth for
current and foreseeable needs
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and will be made available for disposition
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for housing purposes.
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DCAM will accept any comments
regarding the disposition
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and use of the property until May 13th.
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The select board continues
to discuss public input
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and all aspects
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of the anticipated disposition
and the development.
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As you know, we've just come
out as executive session.
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There have been multiple
opportunities for public input
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and feedback since the select
board's meeting in September.
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There were meetings at Mass
Bay, we've held meetings,
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we've taken public comment
and we have received
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and continue to receive emails.
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We now believe we need to hear from
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a very broad representative
group of the town
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and we are going to call for
a special town meeting in May
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and we'll put a non-binding question out
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to town meeting members,
of course residents
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who are not town meeting
members are invited
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and we'll be able to speak
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and we will, the date is TBD.
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We just have to work on a
couple of things for opening
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and closing the warrant and
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advertising and things like that.
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So for this meeting, we are
have scheduled 25 minutes
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for citizen comment on 40 Oakland
three minutes per speaker.
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And I'm gonna ask please,
if you can avoid repetition,
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we would appreciate that very much.
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After that, we will do citizen speak
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for items not on the agenda.
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So this is the time to
comment on 40 Oakland
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and Corey has a list of
people who've requested time.
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So come up to the table, turn the mic on
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and please give us your name
and street for the record.
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- Our first person is
Marguerite Chatelier.
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- I'm Marguerite. Hello,
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- My name is Margarite Chatelier.
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I work in town and I
live at 11 Colburn Road
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and I serve on the board
of World of Wellesley,
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but I'm not here in that role.
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Thank you for giving me
the opportunity to speak.
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I was so happy to read the
letter from the Commonwealth
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of Massachusetts dated April 10th
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regarding the Mass Bay Project.
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I'm glad the state has
agreed to preserve the forest
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and build much needed
housing on the parking lot.
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This is a wonderful opportunity
for Mass Bay to access funds
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to upgrade our state college.
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I know many in town who
feel the same way as I do.
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I want to speak for what I believe is less
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is the less vocal
majority of our community.
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I wanna urge a select board
to engage in conversation
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with the state so
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that we have the best
outcome for the community.
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A place that welcomes
residents of all walks of life.
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But to do that, we need
to say yes to new housing
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and new neighbors.
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I look forward to engaging
in future community
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conversations on this project.
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Thank you.
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- Thank you Marguerite.
- Doug Youngen,
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- Are we live here?
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Good. Good evening and thank
you to the Select board
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and for allowing me to speak tonight.
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My name is Doug Youngin. I
live at 62 Oakland Street.
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I'm the president of the
newly formed nonprofit.
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Friends of Centennial.
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Friends of Centennial
was organized by a group
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of committed residents
who recognized last fall
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that the proposed development
at 40 Oakland Street.
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It's deeply misguided.
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Let me begin by clearing
up a common misconception.
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We are not anti housing.
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Wellesley has made real progress
through thoughtful planning
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and community input in meeting
important housing goals under
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40 B, the MBTA Communities Act
and other state requirements.
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We support well-planned housing.
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What we oppose is poorly conceived
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top-down development imposed
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by the state without adequate research
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or local input like what is
being proposed at 40 Street.
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I wanna make three brief points tonight.
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First, this land was never,
has never been surplus
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for over 50 years, this
forest has been actively used
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and cared for by the town
residents from Wellesley
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and neighboring towns
rely, rely on it daily
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for recreation and open space.
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Our legal team has
developed a strong argument
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that this land qualifies as
Article 97 protected land,
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and yet it has been labeled surplus along
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with a Mass Bay parking lot
that is full nearly every
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day Classes are in session.
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The surplus designation
defies common sense.
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Second, this is the wrong
direction for high density,
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the wrong location for
high density housing.
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The state's own agencies have
acknowledged doing little
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or no site specific research
on 40 Oakland Street,
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yet they're proposing 180
unit multi-story development
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with a four to five story
parking structure located on a
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narrow winding road in a
single family neighborhood.
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Oakland Street is already strained
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by commuter traffic
from Mass Bay tripling.
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The population in this area
is not responsible planning.
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There are also limited walkable amenities
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and the site does not meet
proximity expectations
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for transit under the MBTA
communities framework.
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In fact, it is twice
as far as recommended,
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even though the state said it is steps
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away from the commuter rail.
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Third, we need your help.
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The select board waited over three months
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for a response from the state
only to receive a message
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that makes one thing clear.
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The state intends to
dictate what gets built
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and where that is not good.
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That is not how good planning works.
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Our community has spoken
through more than 3,400
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petition signatures, 500
residents displaying yard signs,
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countless letters and
appearances at meetings.
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Friends of Centennial is committed
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to pursuing this challenge
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through all appropriate legal channels.
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We have engaged,
experienced counsel Hill Law
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to guide that effort.
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Thoughtful housing
strengthens a community.
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We are not giving up. In fact,
we are just getting started.
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Please visit friends of centennial.org
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to learn more and support our work.
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Thank you.
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- Thank
- You. Doug
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- Rayna already knows she's number three.
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Number three.
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- Hi Rena.
- Hi.
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Thank you all for all
the work that you do.
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Good evening, Rayna
McManus to Mulherin Lane.
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For many reasons express both here
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and in earlier meetings as
well as in written comments.
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The proposed development is not
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appropriate for this location.
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I want to focus on just one issue.
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The environment DAM intends
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to preempt Wellesley's
wetlands protection bylaws.
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And please don't be
fooled by any suggestion
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that any development would be limited
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to the existing parking lot.
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No one has ever said it would.
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The most anyone has ever suggested is
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that the development might
either mostly be limited
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to the parking lot, limited
to the lands, adjacent to
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or surrounding the parking lot on
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and around that parking area,
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or would only disturb a few acres
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adjacent to the parking lot.
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But if you look at the map
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or walk the property, you'll
see that immediately adjacent
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to that parking lot are wetlands
and surface water bodies.
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Any construction is going to interfere
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with those protected resources.
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And please also do not overlook
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that any such construction
will be in Wellesley's Water
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Supply Protection District.
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And it's unclear if DCAM intends
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to honor our water supply
protection district regulations.
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When conservation land is involved,
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especially when contiguous
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to our own Article 97 Conservation Land
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Centennial Reservation
Extra care must be taken.
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These developments are not self-contained.
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They will devalue recognized
open space functions
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and values activities can
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and will have negative
consequences on the interior
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of the land, which can extend
to our centennial reservation.
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Two years of construction
activity and noise will frighten
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and scare off wildlife.
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Where will they go for
the first time ever,
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the forest will be shaded during the day
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and lit up at night confusing
the circadian rhythms
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of living things from
vegetation to mammals.
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Concentrated density of people
will necessitate the use
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of pesticides and rodenticides,
which are poisonous
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to our environment and especially
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to our essential bird populations
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and industrial skill landscaping
methods will be introduced
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in and adjacent to our
premier conservation area
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for these in so many more
reasons, including the uncertainty
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of what development will occur
on the open spaces on the
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campus across the street.
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This is the wrong location for
dense housing, for the sake
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of the environment as well as
the health of the community.
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And because biodiversity keeps
all of us healthy, I urge you
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to do whatever you can to stop
this inappropriate project.
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And I'd also just like
for you to recognize
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that there are people
here tonight in support of
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what we're saying, but
they've asked not to speak.
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But if they could just raise their hands
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and let you know that they are here.
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Thank you again for all
the work you are doing.
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- Thank you, Rena. Thanks Rena.
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- Now we're going on to zoom. Paul White.
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- Hi Paul. Oh,
- You're muted, Mr. White.
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- Oh,
- Still muted.
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- Here you go. Okay. I I apologize.
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Turn off, turn off.
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He's he's got the, can you hear me?
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Yes.
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- I, I I apologize. I,
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- Paul, you have two monitors
on and you're echoing.
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Can you turn one of them off please?
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- Paul? Do you have us on two different
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monitors or devices or a phone?
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Devices? A phone and a computer.
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There you go. There you
go. Perfect. Perfect.
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- Thank you.
- I I apologize for that,
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but I am pleased to tell
you that I, in light
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of the comments that
were just made by Doug
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and Rayna, I have, I
have very little to add
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E except one thing that I
think should be pointed out,
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which is that the select board
went to enormous trouble to
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ask a series of very important questions.
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And the response that we
received, that you received from,
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from DCAM, I think
illustrates something that is,
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that is clear to many of us,
which is that, that that, that
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it has its own plan.
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It is not interested in getting input.
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And it was, in my view,
with all due respect
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and exercise in railroading
the select board in sending
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that type of response.
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So I, I, I support and echo
what Doug and Rena said.
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And with that, I, I yield. Thank you.
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- Thank you very much.
- Leslie Hanrahan.
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- Hi Leslie. Hi,
- How are you? Is this on? Yes. Great.
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Okay. To the members of
the select board, thank you
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for allowing me to speak.
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Leslie Hanrahan five Putney Road.
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After reading the April 13th letter
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regarding the noti notification
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of surplus property at 40
Oakland Street from the state,
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it's clear that the concerns of town
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and area residents have not been heard.
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Instead, the state appears
to have created a narrative
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that does not reflect the reality
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of community input According to the state
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and I quote through
community engagement efforts,
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the community has expressed
a priority interest in
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clustering housing development on
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and around the existing
parking lot, with a commitment
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to build not, not to build on
the balance of the property.
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This assertion is deeply concerning
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because it does not align with
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what residents have
consistently expressed.
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At no point have town residents
supported clustering housing
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on some portion of the parking lot
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and an estimated density
of 60 to 90 units per acre,
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which is what would
happen if you took half
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of the parking lot and used
the other half for parking.
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Even the density of the
nines is far lower than that
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which is being proposed
adjacent to the 80 acres
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of forested land known as
centennial reservation.
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Residents have, have also
never endorsed vague assurances
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that quote, vast majority of
the forest will be preserved
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or that the, or that
development will occur on
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and around the existing
parking lot while the balance
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of the property will be saved.
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What does that even mean?
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These phrases lack definition
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and complete protection of the land.
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Contrary to what the state thinks, we said
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residents have repeatedly
and clearly stated
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that the 45 acre parcel
is not surplus land
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and should not be used to
justify high density housing the
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highest in town in a location
that will ruin natural lands.
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Over 3,400 people signed a petition
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to Mass Bay in the state
expressing exactly this position.
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Signs throughout the town
echo the same message.
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This land is not surplus.
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The state has chosen not
to recognize these concerns
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and has offered us a false choice.
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Residents have consistently
advocated for this land
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to remain protected as
conservation land under the
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Massachusetts Constitution,
not to be subjected
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to large scale housing development
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that would permanently alter
its function and character.
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This land has many wetlands
and wetland buffers
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and plays a critical role in recharging
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and filter, filtering our water supply,
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managing stormwater runoff,
supporting wildlife habitat,
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and defining and maintaining
the integrity of our,
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our water supply dis protection district.
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It also provides valuable
recreational opportunities,
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including hiking trails for both the town
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and the broader metro west community.
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I know you understand these
concerns, I know that very well.
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But after a full year of
letters, public comment
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and petitions, it's deeply unsettling
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to see the state mischaracterize
community input in a way
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that suggests support for proposals
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that have never been
suggested by the community.
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What the state is proposing is not
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what residents of this town want.
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I respectfully urge you to
do everything in your power
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to have this land removed
from surplus designation
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and to ensure it is permanently
protected in its entirety.
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Thank you.
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- Thank you Leslie.
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- That's everybody that
signed up in advance
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- And yes, Wendy, please.
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- This from town meeting.
Wendy Beck. Can you hear me?
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Wendy Beck Vaughn PZ 26 Oakland Circle.
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I represent ground zero
for whatever happens.
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We've lived there for 35 years.
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We are in a catch 22
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because of the state's current
law without any adjustments,
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which it sounds like they're
not interested in making.
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So we either have to
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swallow hole a new entire neighborhood,
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very tall structure to
accommodate the parking.
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And I understand there's still some issue
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that there might be 120 cars
of students that might have
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to use some parking spaces
in that parking lot.
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I don't know where that came from.
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So you can correct me if I'm wrong.
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It will end up either being a
tower to accommodate 180 units
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or the land will get spilled
out into those 40 acres
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every single day.
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If it's daylight, I can
look out my bedroom window
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and something is moving
in the woods in human
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and dog form every
single day, all day long.
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Crack of dawn. I used to
walk my dog into the night.
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It is used constantly.
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And just the other day I was alerted
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to a barred owl staring at me.
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I live right up to the buffer,
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which it's a little private way
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and we're gonna get swallowed
whole Right now the street is
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only about eight feet wide.
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It's one lane in that
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probably ac the three
acres are talking about the
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parking lot and beyond.
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There was a baral staring at me
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and then there was a piloted
woodpecker flying around.
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I've seen him year after year.
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There was a lot of wildlife
just in that little expanse.
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I saw a fisher cat one day years ago
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and I thought it was an otter.
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That was the strangest thing
'cause they run like otters
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and I looked it up and
they're, they need space.
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Everything needs space of
these kinds of animals.
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And they will be putting rodenticide,
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however you say it, around
the apartment building.
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And there are tons of owls.
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Anybody that walks centennial,
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you'll hear them every
night grained horned owls.
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And you know the catastrophe
that those rodenticides do.
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The owls eat the sitting duck
rodents because they're sick
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and not able to hide.
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They get eaten in the owls die
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and bald eagles, which is horrifying.
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Anyway, speaking for
that little spit of land
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and those very mature,
we have giant oaks there,
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those very mature trees.
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It hopefully something can
be done to protect that berm.
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'cause they come down from
the college, they go through
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that berm right across
the street from my house
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and then up into the greater
acreage of the 40 acres.
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Thank you. Yes,
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- Thank you.
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- I'll be super quick.
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- Is it still on? No, I'll be, yes.
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I, I'm sorry I didn't prepare anything,
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but I, I just thought of one thing
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that I don't think anyone's talk
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that much about Name and street.
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Oh, I'm so sorry. Lynn
Youngin, 1 62 Oakland Street,
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the Sisters of Charity.
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It's in the category of planning.
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Like something will happen there soon.
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Whether they sell whatever
happens, it's going
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to result in more there.
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They'll be closer to the forest,
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more building more people, whatever it is.
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And I just think that that
needs to also be considered
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with this, that Oakland Street will
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and the surrounding communities
will be dealing with more.
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Once that is done in addition to
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whatever else is done over at Mass Bay.
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It's not just what's
gonna happen with this.
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I think that Wellesley needs
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to consider just the
overall planning of what
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that would also mean with
the Sisters of the charity.
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Thank you. Thank you for
letting me speak without Tanya.
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- Anyone else? Okay.
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We certainly appreciate all the concerns
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that you have shared with us.
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We take this very seriously.
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I hope you know, from the work
that we've sent to the state
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and all the comments we've made
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and the questions we've
asked, we're continuing to try
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to make inroads and we hope
you'll continue writing to us
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and coming and sharing your thoughts.
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So thank you all very much.
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- Marjorie. Let me just
check someone just, oh,
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jumped in online.
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Ted did. Ted did you wish to speak?
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I just wanted to double check.
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- No, no, not on this matter. Thank you.
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- Okay, thanks.
- Okay.
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- Okay, very good.
Thank you all very much.
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- Thank you. Welcome.
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- Okay, so our next agenda
item is citizen speak.
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Mr. Ty, are you here for Citizen speak
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- One 40?
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No. Okay, I'm just listening
tonight. Thank you.
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- Yes. Okay. Thank you very much.
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Okay, in that case we'll move on
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to the executive director's report.
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- Thanks Marjorie. Just a few updates.
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The first is just a reminder
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'cause I know it's ongoing tonight that
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the work begins at midnight
for some tree work,
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which we're gonna have
down in Wellesley Square.
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And so when you hear chainsaws tonight,
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we wanted to make sure
you're aware of that.
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It has been noticed, but it
is a bit uncharacteristic,
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but it's the best time that we can do
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that without disrupting the merchants.
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So just wanted to put
a reminder out there.
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The other thing is, tomorrow
we're having the Wellesley
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Climate Action Geothermal Solutions
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for Affordable Heating and Cooling.
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They are oversubscribed on
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that event tomorrow at the Village Church.
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So we look forward to
hearing the outcomes of that.
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So I wanna thank Mary Beth Martello
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and the Climate Action
Committee for putting that on.
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I think there's in the vicinity
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of 140 people or so signed up.
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So it should be a great program.
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The, the last thing, some
fantastic news we'd like
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to share from and about
our oldest resident, Mrs.
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Gertrude Gerie Hughes. So
Gertie's birthday is happening
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and Gertie is, will be
celebrating her hundred
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and seventh birthday.
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So we love sharing this.
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That's on April 19th, but she'll be having
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an event over the weekend.
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So we did have a resolution
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and we normally don't read these,
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but given the circumstances
for Gardy, we, I'd like
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to read this on behalf of her.
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This is from the select board
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and thank you to Stephanie
Hawkinson for assisting us
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with this so resolution and
honor of Gertrude Hughes.
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Whereas Mrs. Gertrude Gerdy
Hughes will celebrate her
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hundred and seventh
birthday on April 19th.
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And is Wellesley's oldest living resident
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and an outstanding member of our community
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who throughout her long life
has shared her wisdom, humor,
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creative, and athletic
talents with all who know her.
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And whereas Gertie was born
in 1919 in Flint, Michigan
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and was one of nine children a witness to
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so much history during her lifetime.
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She first voted in 1936 for
President Franklin d Roosevelt
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and has cast her ballot in
every election since that time
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with her late husband, Frederick
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Gerie enjoyed living in many
states in the United States
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and spending five years in
Buenos Aires, Argentina.
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Later in life. She
brightened the days of others
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as a volunteer in the coffee shop at
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Newton Wellesley Hospital.
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And whereas Gertie is beloved
by her twin daughters,
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Joan Orr and Jean Fre
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and their families,
including grandchildren
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and great grandchildren,
a natural athlete.
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She's a gifted golfer, bowler,
tennis, and badminton player.
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At age 70, she took up tap dancing,
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performing in many local shows
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and wowing everyone with her high kicks.
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Her hobbies included gardening and sewing.
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And she continues to craft
beautiful needlepoint designs
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treasured by family and friends.
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And whereas Gerie is the current holder
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of the ceremonial Boston Post cae.
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A tradition established in
1909 by Edwin Razer, editor
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and publisher of the Boston Post Newspaper
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to recognize the oldest resident
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of each municipality in Massachusetts
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and a practice the Select
Board is proud to continue now,
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though afford be it
resolved, be the select board
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of the town of Wellesley, Massachusetts.
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Send our warm congratulations
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and happy birthday wishes
to Gertrude Hughes for her
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contributions to our town and
community and witness thereof.
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Set this hand on the 14th day of April.
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- Well, on behalf of the
board, happy birthday Gertie.
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It's wonderful to hear all the
things you're interested in
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and we hope you have a wonderful birthday
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with family and friends.
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Thank you very much to Stephanie.
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And that will be delivered
to Gerie on Saturday.
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Okay, thanks Megan. The next
item is our consent agenda.
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There are three items
on the consent agenda,
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a one day license for the
Wellesley Historical Society
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member event on June 17th.
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A mobile food vendor
license for Oath Pizza
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to operate at private events
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and an amendment
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to the Lockhart Restaurant
Entertainment license
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to allow limited decibel,
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indoor only amplification of music.
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Unless there are any
comments, I'll turn it over
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to Colette for a motion.
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- So move to approve the consent agenda.
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- Second. All in favor? Aye.
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Okay, our next agenda
item is to discuss, oh,
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we're not discussing, we
are discussing one 40.
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We were originally gonna
discuss a modification
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to the development agreement,
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but I'll turn it back
over to Nathan, Megan
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'cause there's been a
late breaking change.
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- So just prior to the
meeting this, this evening,
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about four o'clock or
so, I did have a call
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with the developer as well
as his attorney Lawrence Lee.
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And they have reviewed the plan,
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reviewed the special permit,
and reviewed the challenges
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and potentially modifying
the design for the project
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with regards not only through the review
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by the select board,
but in particular the,
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the following review that would continue
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with the historical commission.
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And after consideration, they've
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formally withdrawn their application
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to amend the development agreement
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and will proceed under the existing terms
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and conditions of the,
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I'm gonna call it amended
development agreement
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where the board had authorized
for the porch to be removed
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and then reconstructed.
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And the applicant sought a
special permit for the designs
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that the board previously approved.
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And my understanding is they
will commence immediately
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with the renovation
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and addition to the
property under the design.
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- Great news. Any questions or comments?
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I'm thrilled that the
house is gonna be retained.
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Look forward to seeing that constructed.
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- Megan, did they give us any sense about
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completion? Timing?
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- I don't know completion timing,
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but my understanding is
they are literally going
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to be applying for permits,
you know, ho hopefully
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by the end of the week it's great.
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- Mr. Tai, would you
like to comment on this
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or are you just listening?
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- Thank you. No, that, that
was what I was listening for as
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some members of the board may know.
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I'm the HOA chairman at 1 48 next door
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and we've, as many of our other neighbors
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and other members of the
community, we've been suffering
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with the way that house looks
for the last two years since,
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since our community opened.
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And we're just anxious
to have anything done
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as it's been, it's been really
tough living next door to it.
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So I'm, I'm happy to hear the news
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and I hope that that they
do follow through with it.
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- Thank you very much. As do
we. Well that's very good news.
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Okay, our next agenda
item is board assignments.
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And as a reminder,
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since we're entering
into appointment season,
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the first steps in our
appointment policy call
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for board liaisons to reach
out to the chair, not staff
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but the chair of their appointed boards.
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And to ask the chair about experience
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or expertise the chair feels
the board could benefit from.
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And then the liaison should also discuss
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with the full board select board
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to see whether the board
has comments on experience
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or expertise that might complement
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the existing board members.
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The board has recently
established two Com committees,
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the General Bylaw Committee
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and the Town Wide Capital
Planning Committee.
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But before I turn to that, I
wanted to recognize Beth for
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her continuing work with the
Merchants on community events
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and formally reinstate her appointment
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as the select board's business liaison.
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That role for the public's
information has the same function
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and parameters of other
liaison roles as a conduit
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of information between the
merchants and the board.
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Policy decisions are made by the board
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and the staff will implement
those board decisions.
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Any proposals for requests
of department action
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or accommodations should
go through Cory and Megan
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and Beth will share her
updates with both Corey
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and the board on a regular basis.
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I'd like to appoint Kenny to work
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with me on the General
bylaw review committee
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and to appoint Colette
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and Tom on the town wide
Capital Planning Committee
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with Colette serving as
chair for the upcoming year.
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The citizen member
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of the Capital Planning
Committee is also an appointee
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of the select board
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and will be discussed
at the appropriate time.
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My understanding is that the goal would be
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to constitute both committees
and have an initial meeting
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or two before the summer break so
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that when everyone reconvenes in September
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schedules expectations
and norms are already set.
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Would you like to add
anything to that, Colette?
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- Yeah, I think that
it's helpful to let us,
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and especially in this
first year, do some work
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to get ahead of it.
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The first two is gonna be the biggest,
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the biggest lift that we have.
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And I think it's really
important as we go forward to,
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to think about leadership and,
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and on those committees as a
deliberative step in doing all
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that we can to have a
meaningful collaborative process
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for all the planning that we're
doing in turnaround capital.
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So yeah, I think it's,
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I appreciate you making
those appointments now
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and giving us a chance to
get started on that work.
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- Moving on to our annual
town meeting debrief,
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we had four items on the
agenda to discuss the order
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of the warrant, audio visual
challenges, separate motions
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for town and school budgets,
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and to set dates for
the annual town meeting.
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So let's discuss the order of the warrant.
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As everyone knows, we had a motion
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to withdraw from the consent
agenda articles that required
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appropriation until after the presentation
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of the town wide financial plan.
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So my proposal for next
year would be to do non
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appropriation articles on
night one after the ceremony
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and then begin night two
as we did this year with
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town wide financial plan and
municipal and school budgets.
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And as this board discussed
last year, I'd like us
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to consider grouping the
rest of the articles by board
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or department primarily
for staff and presenters.
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But I think it will also
help newer town meter
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meeting members see more
of a full compliment of
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what a board or department
does as opposed to doing them
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in appropriations and authorizations
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and perhaps another section.
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And so those are my thoughts
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and happy to have other thoughts.
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- I mean I, I think I try
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and reflect back on what,
what it was we were trying
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to achieve with the structure that we
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had planned for this year.
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I, I do think it's really
helpful for time meeting members
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to have a little bit of runway.
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So you have time wide financial
plan, which is talking about
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the current year and the out years
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and then the budget for the
current year in the same night
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because the way
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that you vote on the current
budget might be affected by
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what you see is coming down the pike.
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And I just think it's,
I mean the intention was
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to be helpful to town meeting members
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to let them have a full picture
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and a chance to have all of
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that done in one night with the same,
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the same body being there.
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I think it's a great
goal and I think it's a,
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I think this is a good plan to achieve it.
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You know, I, I'm looking
at what happened in
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time meeting this past year,
time wide financial plan,
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took an hour, supplementals
took 15 minutes,
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there's a break for 15 minutes.
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The municipal budget
took about 17 minutes,
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the school budget took about 80 minutes.
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That's including questions
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and deliberations and things like that.
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So it is possible for
sure to do all of the sort
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of big budget financial in one night.
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And I think it's a really
good goal to try and achieve.
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And so I I'm, I'm very
supportive of, you know,
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thinking about what can we put
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in night one for the ceremony.
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The ceremony and
resolutions took 30 minutes.
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So with that and everything
else, we, you know, we, we need
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to put more things in night one,
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I do think it's a really good idea to have
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the board presentations put together.
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I thought it was a great flow
to have DPW sort of having,
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almost owning a night.
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I, I thought that was very
effective. So that's where I am.
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Yeah, so I, I
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- Actually think it's too overwhelming
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to do the town wide financial
plan and the budgets.
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I think town meeting at its
heart is a business meeting
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and I think when you
have a business meeting,
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you set the table first
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and you give people the
big flyover of where we are
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and where we're going and then
everything flows under that.
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I, I think maybe we could
have gotten them both
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in on one night this year.
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I don't think we can always count on that.
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And I, I think it is fairer to people
-
to give them the high level
town wide financial plan,
-
let it sit overnight and then
the next night do the budgets.
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So I, I actually think
having a little space
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and I'm trying to think
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how many non appropriation things we have
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that would fill up one night
and whether that would yield,
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- Well we have hr,
- A satisfying experience,
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- Classification and salary
plans, revolving funds,
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authorizations, other things,
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bylaw changes, enterprise funds. Yeah,
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- Yeah, I just, for me,
I think there's a logic
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to having the town wide
financial plan first
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as a business meeting and then
doing the budget separately.
-
I do think we want people
to be, have the time to
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absorb the town wide financial plan and
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although, I mean it was an
excellent, excellent document.
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It's also a really long document
-
and it doesn't arrive
through no one's fault
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that nothing arrives very
much ahead of town meeting
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and that's despite best efforts.
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So I think it's unreasonable to expect
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that people are gonna
have weighted through
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and I thought Megan did a
really excellent job setting
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that high level view.
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The slides were great and
everything told the story really
-
well, but separating 'em
I think is advantageous.
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- Tom,
- I think it's important to remember that
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where this started, the, the concept
-
of reordering the warrant is
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because the duplication in
the presentations was tiresome
-
between the town wide
financial plan and the budget.
-
I, I don't think it's a
matter of absorbing, needing
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to absorb one piece.
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I I, I think frankly
-
the town wide financial
plan absent the graphs
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and charts is an extremely
readable document now far more
-
than it was when I was
first on this board.
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So I, I do think people can
make their way through that.
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But I think the whole
goal here is to be able
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to adjust the presentations so
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that the flow from the
town wide financial plan
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through the budgets allows
for shorter presentations
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with less duplication.
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And I think that's
-
what captures town meeting's
attention and makes this
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- Move faster.
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- Thank you Kenny.
- So I guess conceptually,
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I think having all the,
like the financial plan
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and the budgets in the
same place at the same
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time makes a lot of sense.
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But I just did collette's math
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and so that's 240 minutes.
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So if you start at seven o'clock,
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we're going till 11 o'clock under that.
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And I think
-
that will have a negative
effect on if we did it the same
-
way where the school is in, in that p,
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those four elements.
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So ceremony town wide,
financial plan, town budget,
-
school budget, the impetus
for the school budget was
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to have a robust discussion about it.
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And I feel like, you know,
just looking at the audience,
-
you start seeing people leaving
at 10 o'clock by 11 o'clock.
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I think there's a lot of people
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who are checked out on night one.
-
So while I do conceptually
think that makes sense
-
to do it all together,
-
I just don't know logistically
if we can pull that off.
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- Right. I think what you're, and it's
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'cause I've got it all, well it's not
-
that I've got it all in one list,
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but you would be taking the ceremony away.
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So the second night would be only,
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so it'd be an hour financial plan
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for the time financial plan
basically just over an hour
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for the municipal budget,
just over an hour for school.
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So that's like, you know,
-
like three something hours
you put your break in.
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That's a time meeting night.
-
- I personally think that
would be fine if you got rid
-
of the ceremony, well be a separate night.
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Yeah. I also think could be
shortened significantly. Yeah.
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And I like really, really significantly.
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- I also think that this was
the first year we did the town
-
wide financial plan and the budget
-
and there may be, you know, 10, 15 minutes
-
that we could further
streamline those presentations
-
and you know, maybe check in
-
with Megan A. Little bit more
about what the chair says
-
because I did say a few things
-
that Megan was going to say too.
-
Okay. Mark still believes
that the two pieces
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of the budget need to stay together
-
and I think that's very
fair both for the people
-
who are hearing it, the
people who are voting on it
-
and on the same night.
-
So we can give this feedback to Mark
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next audio visual challenges.
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- Mark, can I just one question
on that presentation. Yeah.
-
So would we still have the
actual appropriations go
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after capital plan and budget?
-
Yes. I think that logic
made a lot of sense. Yes.
-
- The only thing on that you just need
-
to consider potentially is the order
-
of the consent agenda, right?
-
So we're not in the same issue,
-
the same situation we were today,
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- This year.
-
Can you do two consent agendas?
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So if you broke the
financial stuff up from
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- You could non financial
you, you absolutely could.
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- You could have two
articles of consent. Yeah.
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One non appropriation, one appropriation.
-
We could do the consent agenda later.
-
- Yeah, I mean the other thing
I, I was just thinking about
-
when you were just reviewing that is,
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so the bylaw requires us to
give it orally to town meeting,
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which the town financial
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plan part of the general bylaw committee.
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But we could film that in advance.
-
I mean we had the town wide
financial plan completed
-
at the start of March.
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We distributed the letter
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to all residents which
had the link to that.
-
So every resident technically had the link
-
to the IDE financial plan well in advance
-
of the advisory report that included that.
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So we could prepare
-
because we had a a, we have to prepare the
-
presentation essentially
for advisory committee.
-
And so in terms of, you
know, that overview,
-
so you could do a more succinct
presentation potentially at
-
town meeting, but you could
do a fuller presentation
-
and have it recorded. Just
throwing that out there.
-
- Well and that would only
require taking the requirement
-
of an oral presentation at town meeting
-
'cause it would still be
presented to town meeting,
-
but the AV audio visual
presentation would be in advance,
-
which gives people more time
to digest it and read it. It's
-
- Just a thought.
-
- Yeah,
- I think that's yes
-
and you know, you could do that.
-
So people who, who like to,
there are certain people like
-
to prep beforehand, give them a chance
-
and then some people like to
hear things twice or more.
-
And so you, you can listen to it once
-
and then you can listen
to it in the meeting.
-
- Okay. Work for the bylaw
review committee already. Okay.
-
So av Megan, what would you
like to tell us about av?
-
- So I mean I think there was a, a couple
-
of different issues going on.
-
I think we'll continue to work on the,
-
the tech component of it.
-
I think Wellesley Media,
-
it, it was not the equipment on their end.
-
I think the challenge was the sound board
-
and so we'll certainly work and,
-
and I think they've tried
to work out some of the
-
kinks on it with the staff
-
and I think there was different
people there each night.
-
So from, which is fine,
-
but I think we've all had a,
-
they all had from the school
staff a taste of the issues
-
so they all helped us
try and correct them.
-
So I think we're at a
point where we, we can come
-
to consensus on how it best operated.
-
The other major issue, which
Brian DuPont largely identified
-
is the speaker that sits on the stand.
-
So when we heard it the best,
I would say night one is when
-
we heard it great
-
because the speaker was
focusing more on mark.
-
So when the speaker changed
more to the audience,
-
so they were hearing it better.
-
I know for us it was really
challenging to hear as well as,
-
and then some on the far
side of the audience.
-
So that speaker that is
particularly for Mark,
-
we think we're gonna either
replace it or move it or,
-
and I don't recall 'cause
we were trying to recall,
-
I don't remember the, the
prior moderators having that.
-
And so that we do think is
throwing off the sound projection
-
because you have it going in two ways
-
and keep in mind the stage
is really meant to project
-
not from the floor to project,
-
which is also causing some of the issues.
-
So we, they have been
really evaluating this,
-
but we think that speaker is actually one
-
of the major issues with
the, with the sound.
-
So we either can reposition it,
-
maybe have it come from
the side or the back be
-
because of the angle from
-
where the audio was was being relayed.
-
So, and James at the later
meetings was bringing his own
-
equipment as well to try and
resolve some of the issues.
-
So, you know, the goosenecks
obviously work better
-
and I think we've resolved
it in terms of having
-
a higher table.
-
Poor Dave Cohen is so tall,
-
but I think it actually made
this, the microphone closer
-
to everyone's mouths to do that.
-
So we'll continue to evaluate that.
-
But the speaker is the issue
-
because if you might recall
too, even when we were at the,
-
the middle school, which
we really haven't had
-
that many sound issues except for one,
-
remember there was like
one speaker blown one
-
time, but that was fixed.
-
There still was some garble
-
and that's when we had started
implementing the speaker.
-
So it's either the connection with that
-
or just the, the variability
in the sound sort
-
of going back towards the sage
-
and then from the sage that
we also think is causing
-
some of the issues
-
- We should get a remote control rising
-
and lowering flat of, you know,
-
- We're hoping actually to have
-
something like that here at town hall.
-
I think actually Glen has ordered it so
-
that it's a DA compliant
actually so that we can,
-
we can have it rise and
fall to the speaker. Yeah,
-
- There there's one thing Roger, can we,
-
sorry, go ahead Colette.
-
I've, I've gone back to time meeting
-
to watch it a little bit
to catch one or two things.
-
Actually when I was trying
to work out how much time you
-
spent on stuff, sometimes
even when you were as
-
as chair was going to the
podium, when you made the motion
-
to lay on the table, you
could barely hear it.
-
And so I, I don't know if
there's some testing we do
-
beforehand on like does
it work for the audience?
-
Does it work for Mark? Does it work
-
for Wellesley Media? But
that needs to get done.
-
- The main issue with tests,
the main issue with testing is
-
that sound changes
-
dramatically in an empty
auditorium than when there are 200
-
town meeting members
sitting in the auditorium.
-
It really dampens
-
and tamps down on re
reverberation echo all that.
-
So it's hard to test
how the system is set up
-
before town meeting gavels into session.
-
Maybe we can talk with the AV people ahead
-
of special town meeting about
doing a quick sound test
-
for like five minutes
-
before we actually start the
business when town meeting
-
members are sitting down just
-
to see if they can make last
minute tweaks to positions
-
of either speakers and or microphones.
-
But that's the only way
-
because we did ask Jonah the,
-
the sound guy at the high school
about doing a sound test on
-
night three and he was
like, there's no reason to
-
because it's all gonna change
-
the second time meeting starts. I
-
- Forgot they said that.
That's absolute point.
-
- Could we get 150 kids to volunteer
-
to come in for a little bit?
-
- But couldn't you have them
test it when they have some
-
type of assembly
-
and note where they've putting
everything and whether or not it worked?
-
- I think that's a better idea.
-
- Yeah. And but I think
when they do it, it's, it's
-
that front speaker, you know,
-
'cause it's unique to the moderator
-
but we, we think we've,
we don't wanna say we it
-
and James
-
and the sound, all the sound te the
-
auditorium team tech people.
-
Yeah the tech people at the
schools I think have identified
-
some ways for us to improve it.
-
- I just have to say James
was an amazing trooper when we
-
thought we were gonna have
to move outta the auditorium.
-
He's like, that's fine, I'll
bring my own sound board,
-
I'll run my chords, I'll stand
in the little alcove here,
-
I'll do whatever I need to do.
-
He was great. He really
was very accommodating.
-
He would've done anything Beth.
-
- So I, I agree this,
-
I I don't know any town meeting
members that didn't have
-
a really frustrating environmental
experience with the audio
-
and each night it was different, right?
-
So there was no predictability
better on television,
-
some nights better in person,
some nights it just changed
-
so much each night.
-
And I felt horrible for
the all the tech people
-
because they all were trying
-
so hard for me.
-
I think there's a bigger issue about
-
that space in the high school
-
because it, the layout of it
-
I think doesn't give a sense of community.
-
So when you look out, it looks empty.
-
So when you, and I'm sure
Colette, you saw this,
-
when you look at town
meeting on television,
-
it looks like there's no one there,
-
there are 200 people there,
but it looks so vacant
-
and I think, you know, at the
break even there's not as much
-
of a vibe
-
and then the ceremonial piece
-
is really cramped.
-
People speaking, it's a very, it,
-
the ergonomics of it seem challenging.
-
So I, I would like to
have a look at going back
-
to the middle school and to
Megan's point, we haven't had as
-
many acoustic issues over time.
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There. We've had dramatic issues
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but we haven't had persistent issues.
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And I just think there's a
lot to be said about a space
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that drives people to feel more connected
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to one another. And
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- There's a lot of issues, right?
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There's parking James, it's much easier
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for James at the high school.
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There's a a lot of logistical questions
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and of course the one that none
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of us can control is the school schedule,
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which is why we're setting
dates a year in advance
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so we can kind of preempt their
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or influence their scheduling so
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that we can have town meeting
when we need to have it.
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- I'm just thinking Marjorie
about our special town meeting
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and we really do want a sense of community
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and a sense of teamwork
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and a sense of working
together to get somewhere.
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And I think the, I don't
know if it's the slope
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or the tightness or the
way those aisles are,
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but it does have a
tighter community feeling
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and it may be something worth exploring.
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- Okay, Tom? - I, I actually
was gonna raise something else
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and want to, but I, I have to say on this,
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I squarely agree with Beth.
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I, I think it is a much
better experience as a,
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as the community of town
meeting at the middle school.
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And I realize I, I realize
that there are some
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negatives associated with it,
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but I don't recall having the
level of physical discomfort
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that people were having at the high
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school, at the middle school.
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I don't think we were
having the same audio visual
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issues at, at the, at the middle school.
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I I, I think that's
right on on this point,
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but I was gonna raise
the H-V-A-C-I was having
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conversations with Joe during
the day before each night.
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There was only one night that
it was uniformly comfortable
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in that, in that hall I was
watching people put their
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jackets on it.
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It was physically just uncomfortable.
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Now I think part of this is, I,
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I don't know why we're not roping off some
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of the seats on the side and
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and instructing people
to sit in the middle.
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I think that would help. I mean
what Joe's doing is logical,
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which is setting the hall
to occupant to occupy,
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but it's not occupied the
way people are spread out and
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therefore it over chills
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and I think it's very
difficult for people to make it
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through the whole night
if they're physically
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uncomfortable To that extent,
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- Well we should, you
know, take note of all
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of these considerations
and we'll have to balance
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and see what's available
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and what works the best
for the most number
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of those considerations in
town meeting members. And I
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- Just wanna raise the point
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and touch on it a little bit, Margie,
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but we have had a survey
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before where time meeting
members said they preferred the
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high school for a number of reasons.
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I know people have
different opinions on that
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and we did have somebody really fall
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and really hurt themselves
at the middle school
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- And I do appreciate that Colette.
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Yeah, but we had an earlier survey
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that preferred the middle school, right?
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- So I mean people have
different opinions. It
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- Depends on the group.
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- Yeah. So I, I mean there're
certainly, I mean there,
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there might not have been an
audio, audio issues at the
-
middle school, but there's a lot of visual
-
issues at the middle school.
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- Yeah, yeah, right.
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So we're probably never
gonna get every something
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that everybody loves, but
we'll try to get it better
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for the most of the factors
that we need to consider
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separating school and town
budget motions for me,
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because enrollment is dynamic
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and we're always going
to have an examination
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of shared costs
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and direct costs, I like
seeing them separately.
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So I would
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support keeping the
two budgets in separate
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motions going forward.
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Others?
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- So Marjorie, I agree with you
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and I think it was the first
year so we didn't have a lot
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of conversation, but
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that doesn't mean there won't
be conversation on either
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one moving forward.
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I just think it, it's a good
chance to take a break and talk
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and then let people
focus on the next thing.
-
I thought it worked really well
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- And now we know how to do it.
-
- The other thing, I got a lot
-
of positive feedback
about the chief speaking
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and I think if you think
about what happened
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with the enterprise fund presentations
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and the chief speaking,
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I think there's a desire
in the community to get
-
a little bit of education
about what's going on
-
with the departments and
put a face on the facility.
-
And I would urge us to look
at not long presentations,
-
but just like a quickie on what's new.
-
I know it's not a budget
thing, but what's new
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or what's changed or what's
something in the key departments
-
where the community
places high value on them
-
and we want that kind of
sense of trust and loyalty.
-
- I think that's something
that Mark Kaplan would like
-
to raise at the debrief at the all board.
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- So my question, so I I liked
the separate presentation.
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My, my question was just for staff, now
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that we've figured it out, I know it was
-
a heavy lift in the first year.
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What's the maintenance
of that going forward?
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- Well now that we have the allocated
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how we would break up the budget
based upon particular line
-
item, obviously subject
-
to change based upon programmatic needs,
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I think it's easier to employ.
-
I do think as we evaluate
the year end breakout,
-
I think some of that likely
would, that agreement MOU
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that we have with the
schools would likely need
-
to be enhanced a little bit
to make sure that we continue
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to capture everything.
-
We, we broke some things
out, we obviously went down
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to a very fine level,
-
but, you know, once you
establish the forms,
-
and I really want to thank Paul Mangano
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for spending a substantial
amount of time on that along
-
with Rachel and Tiana.
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We have the process now
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and we, we worked that out
with all of the departments.
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So I think it's easier to
each year, you know, it's,
-
it's no different than once
you have the, the forms
-
for the capital budgets
or the main budgets.
-
Like, you know, how to
fill the form out now.
-
- So I I, I would like to
see that going forward.
-
And I just wanted to add to
Beth's comment about the Chiefs.
-
I did also have a couple
conversations on that
-
and when, actually I think Margie was
-
with me when I was
sharing with the resident
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who was asking me that
we had the chiefs come in
-
and update us quarterly for
a pretty lengthy discussion.
-
You know, that resident really
appreciated knowing that
-
and was gonna go and watch those meetings.
-
So I think what we could do
is maybe send a blast out,
-
a periodic blast to time meeting
members when we have things
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like either department heads or chiefs
-
or like, you know, last
year we did a thing
-
where we had the boards that be
-
appoint come and speak to us.
-
I think it'd be helpful to
let time meeting members know
-
then, because I think the
presentation by necessity needs
-
to be focused on appropriation.
-
But we have, you know, 20
minutes, half an hour conversation
-
with the chiefs about what's
happening in the department,
-
which I think is much richer.
-
And then our, our questions in back
-
and forward adds a lot to it.
-
So I think that we need
-
to let time meeting members
know when that's happening
-
and saying, heads up, you
know, this, this is happening,
-
this, the quarterly updates
happening on this date.
-
We encourage you to watch
it to get to know the chiefs
-
- Because the chiefs are so busy.
-
Megan sets the schedule
-
for their quarterly updates
far enough in advance
-
that we should be able to
include it in the w you know,
-
heads up folks, the
chiefs are coming in two
-
weeks or whatever.
-
- And we even could, I
mean to Colette's point,
-
do a targeted email yes.
-
To all town meeting members
from the select board office
-
to let them know the public
safety update when our
-
legislative delegation
comes to do their update.
-
But to that point, I
think it's a good idea.
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- That's a good idea. Tom.
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- I I couldn't agree more.
-
And I, you know, after the fact
we can send out a link and,
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and the fact that it was done, the, one
-
of the reasons I I am so supportive
-
of this idea is I am very wary.
-
We have spent a lot of time creating
-
efficiency within town meeting i,
-
it really is going backwards to begin
-
to have individual
departmental presentations.
-
And I think you have to
be very leery of assuming
-
that it can be done in five
minutes, for example, just
-
to pick a number and
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because sometimes you're
going to get in trouble
-
and it's gonna end up with
a lot of misunderstanding
-
and the need for a much
longer presentation than when
-
it was ever intended.
-
So I think trying to
make the community aware
-
of who's coming to our meetings
when, you know, for example,
-
we could have notified people
-
of the discussion about the
DPW campus feasibility study.
-
That was a, that's a
significant expenditure for a,
-
an expensive project.
-
People might want to watch
it either live or later.
-
So I think we could be doing
more of this about our meetings
-
with upcoming agendas.
-
- The other thing that
does is it gives people
-
multiple exposures to the
department in terms of
-
what they're doing, which
they can then relate
-
to the budget presentation
or the budget that they read.
-
Oh, I see this is the
result of them doing this
-
or this is the cost of them doing that.
-
They can, you know, pair the two together.
-
If they see the presentations
in advance of town meeting,
-
they can put them together.
-
That's a great idea. Yeah. Okay.
-
So we like the split budget motions,
-
ATM 2027.
-
- One other thing I thought
we should think about,
-
which is the use of electronic voting.
-
I thought there were a lot
of places where it made a lot
-
of sense just to do the voice vote
-
and I personally like
-
that it instills a little
more energy into the room
-
and it kind of moves certain things along.
-
I think we should maybe look
at using it a little bit more
-
because you don't know
how many people are there
-
at the beginning and the end.
-
And I think looking at the
cadence of using the electronic
-
voting a little bit more just so
-
that we have some accountability
is worth thinking about.
-
- That was one of the original
purposes of getting it.
-
I also would like to raise
getting attendance published.
-
It used to be in the Townsman.
-
I think it's really important
for residents to know which
-
of their town meeting members
are attending town, meeting
-
from meeting to meet, I mean, from fall
-
to spring over their term.
-
It's, it's very important.
-
- On, on that point,
-
and this is not my idea,
somebody else said it to me
-
and I don't remember who, but,
-
and I don't know if
you can do this or not,
-
but can you put on the ballot
the percentage of attendance
-
of a town meeting member
who is up for reelection?
-
- I don't know if you can do that.
-
- I would want to know that.
I don't know. We can ask
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- Casey for sure.
-
Or it could be, it could
be published, you know,
-
after town meeting and
again, before elections. We,
-
- We had the conversation
a bit today actually,
-
because interestingly,
-
I think the town clerk would
say we should eliminate
-
electronic voting because
it town meeting goes faster
-
and it's very costly.
-
And I said, well, it's exactly,
I said basically verbatim
-
what Beth just said is, I
said, it's accountability.
-
And so certainly you
could get accountability,
-
a check-in in terms of who shows up.
-
But you, you don't get then who stayed
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for the entire duration.
-
And so we, we had actually
had that conversation.
-
Well, we can publish the,
the check-in, you know,
-
we can work with Casey on that,
-
but we can certainly ask about the,
-
for the ballot.
-
- Yeah, because I think
there's a huge percentage
-
of the town that's not
paying attention at that,
-
that may show up in vote.
-
And I think that would be
information in real time
-
that would be very interesting to people.
-
- Right. The problem with
doing it on check-in is
-
that people leave during the meeting.
-
Right. But one,
-
- You, you, I'm sorry,
-
I was just gonna say it's
a very interesting idea,
-
but I'm wondering, I don't
know the answer to this.
-
If there wouldn't be some
strong challenges based on,
-
you know, there's a difference
between the woman, the,
-
excuse me, the person who
just decides, I'm gonna go
-
to Arizona for a week in
the middle of town meeting,
-
that's just my time
-
to play golf versus somebody
who's ill, I mean, who has COVID?
-
So I don't know how you differentiate
-
between the 75% attendance in the person
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where it's legitimate
-
or a public health issue versus not when
-
it's published on the ballot.
-
- Well that's why I said from
meeting, from town meeting
-
to town meeting, because
you could get a pattern
-
and if town meeting members
wanna know, I mean they could,
-
I mean, if residents wanna
know, they could talk
-
to their town meeting members. Well
-
- I, I'll say that when I
ran for time meeting, I, the,
-
the townsman published it
-
and I looked at it to see,
I mean is there anybody you
-
know who doesn't go?
-
Everybody attended
attendance, like fell off
-
during COVID has never come back.
-
So, and I know people can be sick.
-
They'll tell you when I looked
at that, everybody attended
-
- What during one of the
votes we had 180 town meeting
-
members was 25% down. That's a lot.
-
- Were over 200 much.
-
- No, maybe what maybe one.
Maybe the last night. One
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- Night.
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Yeah, the last night.
-
- Okay. So annual town meeting is is
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March 29th, 30th, April 5th, sixth, 12th,
-
and 13th at a location TBD for ATM 27.
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The fall special town
meeting is November 9th, 10th
-
and 16th at the high school.
-
And if folks are tuning in
-
after the beginning of our
meeting, the board is going
-
to schedule a special
town meeting in May to
-
get input from town meeting members
-
and residents on their
preferred course of action
-
or actions with respect to Mass Bay
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and 40 Oakland Street.
-
Mark and Madison would both
like to speak at the all board.
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So I will send Mark the draft tomorrow.
-
We spoke with Tom
-
and I met with Madison this
morning so we know what he wants
-
to say, but I'd prefer
not to paraphrase Mark
-
and let him say it the
way he wants to say it.
-
Our next agenda item is
administrative matters
-
and we have four sets of minutes.
-
- So on three sets of
minutes, they were very,
-
very minor edits.
-
There was one edit pointed out to me
-
that might res require some discussion on
-
February 24, 20, 26 minutes.
-
Line one 13 there was a
proposed strike through,
-
but another board member
wants to keep it in.
-
That's the only thing that
might warrant some discussion.
-
Otherwise it seemed like
it was just ministerial.
-
Okay, let me go back. Line one 13
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on the two February 24th.
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2026 minutes. Okay.
-
- And that, that was me that
requested to keep that the
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- Winter supplement.
-
- No, this is the
February 24th line one 13.
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It's the right before that.
-
So the board members appreciated
the comprehensive planning
-
but requested time to
review the detailed proposal
-
as it was received just prior to me. Oh,
-
- Sorry.
-
It's 1 0 9. I guess the other
edits Bumped it down, sorry.
-
1 0 9 in your packets.
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- It's one 13. One 13 in mine. Sorry.
-
So I that, that was my
comment during the meeting
-
because I would've given comments
-
during the meeting but I didn't have time.
-
And I have actually, it reminded me
-
that I need to send them informally.
-
I've given informal comments to staff,
-
but I'd prefer to keep that in.
-
- That's fine.
- Okay.
-
- So do you want me to make
a motion? So let me just see.
-
Move to approve the minutes of,
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- Lemme
- See.
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April 6th, 2026. April 7th, 2026.
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February 10th, 2026 and
February 24. 2026 as amended.
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- Second.
- All in favor?
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- Aye. Aye.
- Alright.
-
Our next agenda item is
an executive session.
-
I request a motion to enter
into executive session
-
to conduct strategy with
respect to bargaining
-
with the Wellesley
Firefighters library staff
-
and Supervisor Association
and the custodian unions.
-
As I declare, having such
discussions in open session
-
may be detrimental to the town.
-
- So let me just find my motion.
-
- Sorry.
- Okay,
-
move to enter executive
session under Mass General Law
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chapter 30, subsection 21,
A three to conduct strategy
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with respect to negotiations
-
with the Wellesley Free
Library Staff Association
-
and Wellesley Free Library
Supervisor Association
-
and the A-F-S-M-E Local
49 Custodian Association.
-
As the chair is declared
-
that having such discussions
in open session is detrimental
-
to the town's position.
-
And to invite executive
director Megan Chop,
-
assistant executive director Corey Testa,
-
HR director Dolores Hamilton.
-
Who else are we inviting?
-
- I think library's still on,
-
but you can add in case they're available.
-
To jump on Marla Robinson
and Jamie Jergensen,
-
- Our library director Jamie Jergensen
-
and board of library
trustees chair Marla Robinson
-
to executives and no.
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Okay. To executive session
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- Second.
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Beth Aye. Kenny Aye. Tom Aye.
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Colette Aye. And I vote Aye as well.
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So we will come out of executive session
-
for the sole purpose of
adjourning the meeting
-
and our next meeting is,
-
could be April 27th. Our
-
- Next scheduled meeting is
April 28th at the moment.
-
- Okay. Next scheduled meeting,
April 28th and then May 5th
-
and May 12th is the all board meeting.
-
- So I need to actually,
I forgot to put the,
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to exit executive session
-
for the sole person
adjourning onto my motion.
-
So I'm adding that in. Corey, sorry.
-
- While we're waiting for
Wells Media to jump off,
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I'm passing around the
formal resolution for Gerdy
-
that when he gets to UK.