Annual Town Meeting April 6, 2026
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- Okay, we have 121 plus
who have checked in, so
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if everybody could take their
seats, we can get started.
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Okay. I'm Mark Kaplan,
Wellesley's Town moderator.
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It is 7:01 PM Thank you for checking in.
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Early on Wednesday, April 6th, 2026,
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I have been informed that we
have more than 121 town meeting
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members checked in.
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So I will now formally
call the third session
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of Wellesley's 2 0 2 6 annual town meeting
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to order this session.
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And all subsequent sessions
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being televised on Comcast
Channel eight, Verizon Channel 40
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and all sessions are live
streamed by Wellesley Public Media
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and Archive For future reference
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or viewing, please turn
off all cell phones
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and other devices that
make noise of any kind.
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Town meeting members should all be
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seated in the front section.
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Residents who are not town meeting members
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and others should be seated in the rear.
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And staff members
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and members of boards
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who will be participating
in tonight's session
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can also obviously be
sitting in the front,
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but if they're not town
meeting members not
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voting on voice votes.
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And this is a public school building.
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So once again, under Massachusetts
general laws, no firearms
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of any kind or smoking
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of any kind is permitted in this building.
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Now tonight, sixth special day in
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Wellesley's history and
I'm gonna call upon Mr.
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DeFazio of Precinct F to
remind us of the occasion.
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- Good evening
- Everybody. Can you hear me okay? Yeah.
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My name is Tory DeFazio Precinct f Mr.
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Moderator Mr. DeFazio.
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50 years ago I had the privilege
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of serving on the town
Centennial Committee.
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We planned for three years with a budget
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for a year long celebration during 1981.
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Since then, when a town meeting
session falls on April 6th,
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we celebrate again.
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Today is April 6th, 2016.
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It is the 145th birthday of the town.
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And I am pleased to present
the following resolution,
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Town of Wellesley 145th
birthday resolution.
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Whereas the town of
Wellesley was incorporated
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as a municipality by the state legislature
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and signed by the then
governor of the Commonwealth
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of Massachusetts on April 6th, 1881.
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And whereas this action of
successful incorporation
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was the result of 110
years of previous attempts
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to separate from the town of Needham.
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And whereas this new
town was named in honor
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of the Wells family
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and Isabella Pratt Wells, the wife
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of the generous benefactor
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and town leader, Horatio Hollis Honeywell,
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who donated the land
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and the grounds on which to
build the new town's seat
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of government, Wellesley Town Hall.
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And now therefore be it resolved
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that this town meeting acting
on behalf of the citizens
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of the town of Wellesley, recognize
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and acknowledge that
April 6th, 2026 is the
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145th birthday of our great town.
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And be it further
resolved that we recognize
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and salute the efforts of
previous town meetings,
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which responded to the desires
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and the needs of the citizens
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to build Wellesley into
the outstanding community
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for which it is known today.
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And be a further resolve
that we acknowledge
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and convey our gratitude to the generous
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and dedicated volunteers in
this town who continue to work
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for good government, protect
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and preserve the natural
beauty of our community,
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strengthen our schools and libraries,
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and support all of the services
for the good of all citizens
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and be it further resolved
that we as elected officials
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and town meeting members,
renew our commitment to town
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to work for good government
in the spirit of our founders.
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And may this resolution be made part
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of the official proceedings
of this town meeting
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and recorded by the town clerk presented
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by Salvatore DeFazio II on the sixth day
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of April, 2026, approved by Mark Kaplan,
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the moderator, and attested
by Catherine Cato, town Clerk.
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And I would like to just mention
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that during the break today,
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please join us in celebrating the town's
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birthday with a cake.
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You probably notice it on the
way coming in, it's courtesy
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of tonight's refreshment sponsor,
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the Wellesley High School Key Club.
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So thank you very much and
happy birthday Wellesley.
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- And, and thank you Mr. Dio.
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And we'll be taking a
break at approximately 8 45
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and we'll allow a couple of
extra minutes to make sure
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that everybody has a chance
to have a piece of cake.
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I'm told that it can be cut
up into enough small pieces
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for everyone, so please enjoy it.
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Okay, so I hope everybody
had a chance to review the
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moderator's bulletin, which
I set out the schedule
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for tonight and for tomorrow
night, we should be able
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to complete this town meeting.
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In the four sessions
tonight, we're gonna have
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seven articles that have
been sponsored by the Board
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of Public Works and two
motions under Article
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15 that are being put forth
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by the Community Preservation
Committee, one of them,
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which happens to involve the
Department of Public Works.
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So hopefully we'll be
able to get through all
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of those tonight
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and tomorrow night we're
gonna start with Article 22,
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which is the Contributory
Retirement Board article on
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increasing the COLA base.
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Then we have two motions put
forth by the planning board,
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one having to deal with
a comprehensive plan
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and the other with the issue of the Rios.
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So, you know, hopefully
we'll be able to include both
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of those tonight in a timely fashion.
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So that's the schedule for tonight
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and now for the test question,
in order to make sure
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that everybody's electronic
voting devices are working
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properly, no mystery about
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what the question would
be tonight, which is
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who will win tonight's
NCAA championship game.
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Press one for UU press, one for Yukon, two
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for University of Michigan,
and three for you.
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Don't know or don't care.
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Okay. The voting period is now open.
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Okay. Definitely a hometown crowd
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be bets will be taken during the break.
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So if, if anybody's vote did
not record properly, come on up
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and Michelle, our administrator,
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will see what the problem is.
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Okay? So if anybody's vote
was not properly recorded,
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come on up to the table
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where the administrator is
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and we'll get you a new device
or fix the one you have.
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So we can now open up the formal business.
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And I recognize Mr.
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Wexler, chair of the Board of Public Works
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to make the motion under Article 11.
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We guess we know how he voted.
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- And you're gonna see
a lot of this tonight.
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So I I I thought about, you know,
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I normally wear a dress shirt,
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I wish I had a Michigan dress shirt.
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I don't. So this is what you get.
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And I have family that went to Yukon.
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So tonight's a big night.
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So this is the first of
several motions. And Mr.
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Moderator, Jeff Wexler precinct, Mr.
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Wexler and Chair of the Board
of Public Works. Thank you.
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I ask that you waive the
reading of the motion
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as it appears on the screen
and was distributed in advance.
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- Reading of the motion is waived.
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- Thank you. And so this will be the first
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of several motions that you'll,
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you'll hear from our
department this evening.
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Before I ask that the moderator
recognize our wonderful
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director, Mr. Cohen, I
would like to just say that
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number one, especially
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after the winter, we
had, I think we can all
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recognize the wonderful and fantastic job
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that the Department of Public Works does,
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maintaining the
infrastructure and providing
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service to this town.
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So I'd just like to thank them
for the incredibly hard work
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that they provide for us.
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And that starts at the top
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and it goes through all
100 plus staff members.
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And I'm very thankful to be on this board
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because I get to celebrate them
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and they really are wonderful.
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And so I'd just like to
say one thing you'll hear,
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I just want to point out a, a theme
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that we brought up previously
in, in prior town meetings.
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You're going to hear about
the investments that we need
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to make in our infrastructure
here in town in
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particular tonight around water.
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And some of that will
incur the raising of rates.
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We've done it a little bit in prior years
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and you're gonna see a
little bit more of it.
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But we're proud of the
fact that in the face
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of significant costs facing
everybody in New England
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and in Massachusetts, we're
actually doing a really good job
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of maintaining rates
that we believe are some
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of the best around.
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And that goes back to the hard work
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of our staff that we rely on.
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So we'll welcome questions at any point,
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but I just want to point
out that we are very,
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very lucky in this town, both
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because of what we pay for the service
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and the infrastructure that we have,
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but also for the quality that we receive.
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And so I'd just like to frame
the entire evening with that.
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And now Mr.
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Mi asked that you recognize
Dave Cohen, the director
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of the Department of Public Works. Yes.
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- Mr. Cohen.
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Mr. Moderat. Dave Cohen. DPW Director.
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Yeah, Mr. Cohen,
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small modification here.
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So I apologize in advance.
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You're gonna see me for
eight presentations tonight.
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And coincidentally, there are eight towns
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in the Boston Marathon.
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So being that this is marathon season,
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I'll give you some way
finding along the way.
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First presentation is Article
11, we're in Hopkinton.
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So here we go. On behalf of
the Board of Public Works,
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I'm pleased to present
the FY 27 Water Enterprise
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Fund budget request.
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So for those of you new to town meeting,
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an enterprise fund provides
a service to the community
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and charges the users of that
service through its rates.
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The Enterprise Fund receives
its funding solely from the
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fees that it charges, not
from tax revenues of the town.
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In this case, the Water
Enterprise Fund receives its
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revenues from the rates
we charge for water.
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The budget is based on a break
even cash flow projection
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of the water to be used during
a moderate water usage year.
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We then modify our rates as needed
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to meet our projected
capital and operating needs
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and actual weather conditions.
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For example, a hot dry summer
versus a cold wet summer.
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So this is our proposed water
budget for fiscal year 27.
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Compared to the current
year, the total budget,
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including non-operating expenses
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and contingencies, is $14,385,866
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or 6.1% more than FY 26.
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The operating budget, personal services
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and expenses is essentially flat.
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The overall fund increase is
primarily due to debt service
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and rate stabilization.
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Rate stabilization this year
is for PFAS settlement funds
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and MWRA water loan
proceeds, which will be used
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to offset future rate increases.
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This slide highlights the
primary operating budget drivers
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personal
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Right there.
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Primary operating budget
drivers personal services are
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expected to increase by 2%
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and includes general increases
of 2% for management pay plan
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and 2% for group 40.
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We have 0% for our production
unit supervisor unit,
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as those collective bargaining
sessions are ongoing
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under expenses, you can see here
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that MWRA water purchases
will increase by $90,000
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and expenses overall will
decrease by about 132,000,
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mostly due to health insurance
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and reco retirement cost estimates
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that we received from financial services.
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Now turning to the capital budget
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for many years we have
followed a deliberate plan
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to upgrade our water distribution system,
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which in many places is more
than a hundred years old,
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actually dating back to 1884
when the water system started.
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This includes a
comprehensive plan to replace
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or rely pipe segments, upgrade hydrants
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and loop dead end
sections throughout town.
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Our plans also target
improvements to our water supply,
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including Wells treatment
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and our existing MWRA
connection highlights in FY 27,
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sorry, include $1.15 million
for water supply improvements,
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which include needed upgrades
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to our existing treatment plants
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and $1 million for distribution
system improvements.
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So this slide shows our
water capital budget plan
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through FY 31.
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In FY 28 through FY 30.
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You can see the impact
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of major projects that we have planned.
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- Oh,
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So in FY 28 through 30, you
can see the impact in red
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of the major impact.
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The major projects we have planned.
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The larger red segments are for interim
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and permanent PFAS treatment
construction, beginning
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with Mors Pond and FY 28,
followed by Wellesley, ABB
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and FY 29 and Rosemary
Longfellow and FY 30.
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The dash blue segments are placeholders
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for a potential second
connection to the MWRA.
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This project would provide
redundancy to our existing system
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and talks are ongoing with the MWRA
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and neighboring towns
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to see if this project will go forward.
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And for your information,
we are expecting up
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to a 20% increase for water in FY 27.
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The makeup of that increase is 8%.
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For interim PFAS treatment
design at the Wellesley Ave
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and Longfellow Wells, about 6%
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for permanent PAS treatment
design at Morris's Pond.
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These funds were all authorized
at last year's town meeting
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and this work is currently underway
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and about 5%
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of this rate increase
reflects reduced revenue due
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to expected outdoor
watering restrictions due
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to DEP drought declarations.
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More about that in a minute.
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As we contemplate larger
than normal rate increases,
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we thought that it would be helpful
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to show our rate history.
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So this chart shows for
the 10 years from FY 13
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through FY 22 that we had
no water rate increase.
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So there was 0% increase in FY 23.
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You may recall we had a 50%
rate increase driven PRI
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primarily due to to PFAS
impacts including higher MWRA
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assessments reduced revenue
from lower water water usage
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from a of of wet summer
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and ongoing capital improvements
to the water system.
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After that, we return to
smaller increases of 4% annually
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for FY 24 through FY 26 again,
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we're currently forecasting
up to a 20% increase in FY 27,
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which will be considered by the Board
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of Public Works at a pub at a
public hearing meeting in May.
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After that, the plan includes
projected increases of 10
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to 15% over the next five years.
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Those projections are based
on our current capital plan
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and conservative revenue estimates
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to make sure the water system
remains financially stable.
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It has a mind of its own.
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So here you see a comparison
of the cost of water, sewer
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and storm water for a
household that uses 120 CCF
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or a hundred cubic feet of water per year.
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The combined total is comparable
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with our surrounding communities.
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We show the projected FY 27 number here,
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even though we don't yet
have this information
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for our neighbor, our neighboring towns
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water is now a bit
higher than our peers due
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to the rate increase needed back in 2022.
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But even so, our combined water
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and sewer rates continue
to be very competitive
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with our neighboring communities
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and in the region, the Board
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of Public Public Works
will be reviewing rates
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next month before a final
rate structure is adopted
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for ffy 27.
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So coming back to the FY 27
budget on the bottom line,
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you see that we're asking
your authorization to spend up
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to $14,385,866 in our operating budget,
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our operating and capital
budgets this coming year.
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And before I wind up, I
just wanted to take a minute
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to give an update on a
couple of important topics.
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Currently we're in a level
two significant drought
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as declared by the state.
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This means that use of automatic
sprinklers is prohibited
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and only handheld watering is allowed.
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The state's drought task
force actually meets tomorrow
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to review the drought status.
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I'm hoping that with the
weather that we've had recently,
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we might improve a little bit,
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but we'll see tomorrow if
the status level improves
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to a level one drought,
then one day per week
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watering will be in effect.
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So please stay tuned
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and program your irrigation
systems appropriately
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and if needed, work with your
irrigation company to comply
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with the restrictions.
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And we also encourage everyone to sign up
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for the online customer portal.
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This is a great tool to
help you identify leaks,
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which will save you, save you
water, and save you money.
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We ask for your favorable
action on Article 11.
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- Okay, Mr. Riley, could we
please have the recommendation
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of the advisory committee
on the motion under Article
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11? That's
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- Okay.
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Madison Riley Advisory chair
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and town meeting member
Precinct F Mr. Moderator
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- Mr. Riley
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advisory supports the Board
of Public Works requests
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for the funds required to
operate the Water Enterprise Fund
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for fiscal year 27.
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It funds the operating capital
budgets proposed for, we find
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that the operating capital
budgets proposed in this article
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appropriate the principle
expenses of the water division are
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for the maintenance and
operation of the town wells
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and distribution system,
as well as for the purchase
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of supplemental water from
the MWRA advisory notes
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that due to the need
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to mitigate PFAS levels in the
water derived from town ponds
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and the increasing cost of
the MWRA water BPW anticipates
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that this year's water use rate
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set in the spring will be
20% higher than last year.
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As you just saw, advisory noted
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that the rate stabilization
line item in the budget
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will help to re,
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to reduce rate shock if costs are actually
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higher than anticipated.
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Advisory greatly appreciates the quality
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of Wellesley's water and the
way the water division is has
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handled PFAS
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and advisory recommends
favorable action 12 to zero.
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- Alright, thank you Mr.
Riley. And it's now 7 25.
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The floor is open for question, debate
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and discussion of the
motion under Article 11.
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- Peter Welburn, precinct seat.
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- Mr. Welburn?
- Yes, Mr.
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Moderator, I had a question for
Mr. Cohen through you first.
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Mr. Cohen, I've given you this compliment
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before I, I think you
do an outstanding job
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with your presentations consistently.
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My question was about the capacity
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of the current water system in town.
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Do you and your team evaluate
what capacity in terms
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of number of homes, number of residents
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that the existing system can serve?
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And are we getting close
to maximum capacity?
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So my question's about capacity
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- Of the water system, Mr. Cohen.
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The question is the capacity
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- Mr.
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- Mr. Cohen?
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- So I don't have the exact numbers handy,
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but it in general, we
have plenty of capacity.
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So capacity is not an issue.
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We, we, we recognize
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that there's significant
development happening in town
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and we don't foresee any
issue with being able to meet
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that demand through our current system.
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- Patty Quigley? Yes. Precinct
- Ms. Quigley
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- Through you Mr.
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Moderator? 20%
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increase is a lot of money to be asking.
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I think if we were asking
for 20% increase in our
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property tax, that would
have to go to the town.
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This is also somewhat considered a tax.
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And why don't we have
to go to the town for
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that size increase?
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- Okay. Mr. Mr. Cohen,
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- Dave Cohen, Mr. Moderator,
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- Mr. Cohen.
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- So for the water and sewer
fund as an enterprise fund,
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the process is that there'll
be a public hearing,
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public hearing through the Board
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of Public Works, which has that authority.
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And that's the, that's the
process that we go through
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for rate increases for water.
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So we'll be advertising
that public hearing soon,
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we invite anybody to come.
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The 20% is a maximum level, so
it might be lower than that,
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but that'll be the
opportunity for the board
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to hear any comments that
the, the community might have
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and take that under advisement
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as they think about the rate
increase as we go forward.
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The choice that we'll have to
make is about whether we wanna
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move forward with PFAS treatment.
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So that's really what
it's gonna come down to
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for the board's consideration.
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- So is this something that hasn't,
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this 20% hasn't been determined for sure.
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Sorry, through you Mr.
Moderator follow up?
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- Yes, Ms. Squiggley?
- That's correct.
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Nothing has been decided
yet, but we're anticipating
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and we're projecting that
the recommended rate increase
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will be up to 20%.
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- Okay. So when this
increase is determined,
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are we gonna know how much
the projects are gonna cost?
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It sounds like we're
paying for these projects
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ahead of them.
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We have, and this is seems
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to be quite a bit,
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- Mr.
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Moderator. So actually the,
the increases for projects
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that have already been authorized, this is
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for the design work that
has already been approved
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by town meeting and the the pilot testing
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for that work is underway.
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The design work will be moving forward.
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And so what happens is
those projects will get,
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will actually we'll do a
borrowing for for that work.
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And then the rate increases needed
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to pay off the debt service
of that when it comes about.
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So it's for projects that
have already been approved
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and the work will be done
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and then the money will be borrowed.
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And that's why we need to raise the rates.
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- Okay. So, all right. And
then f another question.
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- Okay. One more question Ms. Quigley,
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- I'm sure.
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- Can we grab by Patty
quickly, very clear and Cohen
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- From a sound perspective
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- Well thank, thank you
for raising that question
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because I was gonna say
something after this.
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The reason I have not been
reframing the questions is I
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cannot understand anything
that's coming from either
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of the side microphones.
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I can hear Mr. Cohen perfectly.
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- For us, it's the opposite
- For us,
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it's a little opposite
from this microphone.
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Sometimes people sound,
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- Well, what I'm getting, what what
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I'm getting is a total echo.
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- Okay, well,
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- So, you know, ask the question.
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I think Mr. Cohen can hear it. Then
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- My final question is, if the rates go up
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and whatever, the rates go
up and we finish the project
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and get the money we need for PFAS
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and all of those other things,
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are the rates gonna come back down?
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I didn't get, I I know you
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talked about it in your presentation.
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I just, it was too fast for me.
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- Sure. Could we bring
the presentation up real
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quick to the presentation?
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- What slide?
- It's the, the rate history slide.
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Great. History Seven.
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That's the one. So this is what
we're projecting right now.
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Where there is a an FY 27, the black bar
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shows approximately 24
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or shows 20% followed by 15, 10
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to 15% over the next few years.
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And then tailing off after that.
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As, as those projects fade away.
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The other major impact
on rates is you saw the,
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the blue hash line for the MWRA project,
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which is not a real project yet.
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It's just a concept that's
baked into these rates.
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If that project doesn't happen,
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then you configure these
will all drop by, pardon me,
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those will all drop by
five to six to 7% if
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that project doesn't go forward.
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- Okay. Mr. Mary,
- Mr.
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Mayor, moderator Paul,
Mary precinct, G Mr.
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Mary through you to Mr. Cohen,
what proportion of the cost
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of the PFAS remedial efforts is
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being covered by settlements
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or legal efforts to make the people who
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initiated the PFAS business into to,
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to offset our cost. Thank you.
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- Okay. I heard the
first part of that. Okay.
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Which is how much of the cost
of the PFAS is part of the,
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gonna be paid for out of the settlement?
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- Can't do the math. And
my Mr moderator Dave Cohen,
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I can't do the math in my head,
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but the total cost of
the PFAS re remediation,
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if we do it in all three treatment plants,
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we're talking about
something like $35 million.
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The settlement will bring us in something
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like two to $3 million.
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So it's a fraction of the
cost, but it's something,
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and we look forward to
those dollars coming in.
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- A follow up please, Mr.
Moderator a follow up, please?
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- Yes. Yes. Mr. Mary,
- Is there any,
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any additional litigation
pending now on account
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that PFAS that might generate more revenue
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to offset the cost?
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- Any, any additional litigation
on the PAS, Mr. Cohen,
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- Mr.
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Moderat, Dave Cohen,
Mr. Cohen? There is not.
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Right now the, the main issue
that we have in Wellesley is
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that the source of PFAS is ubiquitous.
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So there isn't, it isn't though
as though there's a company
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that's producing it
that, that we can go to.
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And so unfortunately there
is no, there's no smoking gun
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that we were able to identify
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- Ms.
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Cobbin,
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- Pam Cobbin
- Precinct, Ms. Cobbin
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- Through you Mr.
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Moderator, I'd like to ask
Dave Cohen if we, we have
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to abide by federal
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and state mandates that require us to have
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to lower the PFAS in our water
in some way or their numbers
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and figures that we have
to adhere to, which to me
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that would mean that we have no choice
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- To the microphone please. Yeah.
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- Did everybody hear me?
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I think you can't hear me but
everybody else can. Sorry,
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- That speaker may not working.
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- Mr. Cohen.
- I got it. Dave Cohen, Mr. Moderator.
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So essentially that is correct.
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The choice is to treat or not to treat
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and in our case we're fortunate we have
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three water treatment plants.
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So there could be a decision
to not treat at one of them
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or two of them and take
more water from the MWRA,
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which is more expensive.
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I don't think that's the
path that we're going,
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but that that is the
decision that the board will,
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will ultimately have to make.
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- But three Mr. Moderator,
we are required by law
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to do that, isn't that correct?
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We have to do that. We have
to have certain numbers.
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- The extent to which we're
required by law Mr. Cohen.
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- Correct? Right. So if we don't treat,
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we'll have to shut down the plants.
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So thank you for clarifying that point.
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- Okay, thank you very much.
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- Okay, Mr. Baker Moderat,
- Sean Baker precinct
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- At Mr. Baker
- And drew
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- You to Mr. Cohen
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and I, I think you may
have just answered part
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of my question, but we've
been seeing the capital
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expenditures brewing for a
while, both on the remediation
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of the existing wells
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and also getting more MWRA water.
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And so just a thought, the
thought process now is none
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of those decisions have been made.
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If I took that correctly from the answer
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to the last question
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and then the follow up is just that, given
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that the town has quite a
few other capital projects,
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is forming a capital committee,
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I know these are different
pools with a separate fund,
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but is there any thought of coordination
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to think about prioritizing
whether you ultimately could do
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both of these projects,
one of these projects?
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Or will it get wrapped up with
the overall capital projects
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and prioritization?
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So that might be Mr.
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Moderator That part of the
question could be to Mr. Cohen
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or to the select board in the
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formation of the capital committee.
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- Okay. Mr. Cohen,
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- Dave Cohen.
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Mr. Moderator. So the primary
driver for us has been,
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as the previous question came is about
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our regulatory requirement.
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And so we're really
aiming to tie, make sure
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that we're in compliance
when those dates come
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and that's coming soon.
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So we certainly could
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and we should take a look
at the, the whole landscape.
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But that for us has been the primary
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driver up to this point.
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- Mr. Jones,
- Mr. Moderat, Pete Jones, precinct B
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- Mr. Jones,
- Do I understand correctly
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that if we don't continue with our wells
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and continue supporting our wells,
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that we will lose them entirely due
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to state regulations, et cetera?
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- Are we in danger of losing
our wells if we don't use them?
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I guess is that, is that the substance
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of the question Mr. Jones?
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- So Mr. Moderat and Dave Cohen?
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Yeah, if we do not treat for PFAS,
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we would be an exceedance of the federal
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and probably the state limits and
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therefore would not be able to
pump water from those wells,
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- Which should give us
a substantial problem.
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- Yes.
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- Mr. Baker?
- Oh,
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just follow up on the
second part of the question.
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So if I heard the first part
to remediate the wells could,
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the existing Wellsley wells
could be about 35 million.
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The total in the advisor
report is an estimate
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of maybe 22 million to be determined
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for another MWRA connection.
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So it's just if there's some
thought of coordinating,
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you know, potential 50
plus million expenditure
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with the capital committee of
the town as we're evaluating
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a number of large capital
projects coming down the road.
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- Mr. Re So it just so happens
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that I think I'm gonna be on
the capital planning committee
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and so I'll, I will certainly
be sure to make sure
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that along with Joe McDonough,
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we'll we'll be talking
about these significant
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projects in that plan.
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So thank you for that, that comment.
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- Mr. Wexler?
- I, I'd like
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to just add one thing from the
board perspective for that.
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- Answer the microphone please.
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- Just as a reminder to
several of these questions.
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As a board, we look at this distinctly
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because it's an enterprise fund.
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So yes, coordination through,
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through capital planning
across the town is wonderful.
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But also we run this as a business.
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So when as a board we look at this
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and back to even the
rate setting question,
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we have a responsibility
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to look at the
infrastructure costs specific
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to the water infrastructure
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and the water legal requirements
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that come from the Department
of Environmental Protection.
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And we have to look forward.
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So all of this rate increase
in all of this planning
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in any decisions we make about raising
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or lowering rates always
comes back to are we able
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to have a self-sustaining
enterprise independent
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of the tax base because
the taxes do not fund
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this part of the operation.
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This is funded by the rate payers.
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So as a board that's the critical
distinction we make from,
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for instance, when we're deciding
about paving your streets
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and things like that
which come from tax funds.
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So just wanna make sure that's
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clear 'cause these are great questions.
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I just wanna make sure everyone
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understand how we think about it. Okay,
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- Thank you Mr.
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Wex. Right, I, and I hope
people noticed how Mr.
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Wexler was speaking into the
phone, into the microphone.
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'cause that was the first
comment from the floor
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that I could understand in here.
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And it may be that turning
the mic to the side so
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that it's parallel to the
stage may, may have helped.
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And also the distance, you
don't want to be right on top
-
of the microphone but,
'cause I think that's
-
what causes the echo.
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But if you may be eight to 12 inches away,
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that may help it carry up here.
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Okay.
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Alright. I'm not seeing anybody else.
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Are there any non-time meeting
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member residents who wish to speak?
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Okay, I guess we're ready for the vote.
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I think we can do this on a voice vote.
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All in favor say aye. All
aye. All the opposed say nay.
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Motion one under Article 11 carries
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unanimously by voice vote.
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Article 11 is closed.
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Article 12 was approved as
part of the consent agenda.
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So we now move to Article 13.
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Article 13. And I recognize Mr. Wexler
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- Dave's so good.
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He now wants to take my job too.
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Wow, this really is high
up. Thank you everybody.
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And Mr. Moderator, Jeff
Wexler precinct a Mr.
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Wexler and chair of the
Board of Public Works.
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I ask that you waive the
reading of the motion
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as it appears on the
screen reading the motion
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is waived previously.
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Thank you. It's actually really useful
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to have this come up directly
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after we spoke out about water,
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because what you'll see with this is
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that we will not be
increasing the rates and
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because it is a separate enterprise fund,
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if you'll remember we recently set it up
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that way when we began this enterprise.
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And this is one of the benefits of
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that is we can distinctly determine
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and independently determine
the infrastructure needed
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to handle storm water
separately from our sewer
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and our water and, and the
scenarios are different.
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So with that I'm pleased to ask Mr.
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Moderator that you once
again recognize Mr. Cohen?
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Yes, Mr. Cohen.
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- Mr. Moderator. Dave Cohen.
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Yes, Mr. Cohen, director of
Public Works. We're in Ashland.
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It's just in case you're
following along on, on behalf
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of the Board of Public Works, I'm pleased
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to present the FY 27 Stormwater Enterprise
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Fund budget request.
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So as many of you know, the
new Stormwater Enterprise Fund
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was adopted in 2023
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and fees for the program started
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to be collected in July of 2024.
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Similar to our other
enterprise funds, the ongoing
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and projected requirements
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of the stormwater program are
now funded from fees charged
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to each customer and tax dollars are no
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longer appropriated for this purpose.
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Stormwater fees are based on the amount
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of impervious surface on each
property using an equivalent
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residential unit or ERU calculation
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for equitable distribution
of program costs.
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The fee is charged to all
non municipal properties
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and set with the aim of
maintaining rate stability
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through long range planning.
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Based on the approved budget, the Board
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of Public Works will review and
finalize the stormwater fee.
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And as you'll see, we
anticipate no change in
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the fee this year.
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Wellesley maintains an
extensive drainage system
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that includes 10 primary
watersheds with all
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of our drainage eventually making
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its way to the Charles River.
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The system includes drain
pipe, brooks catch basins,
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culverts, and the equipment
used to support the program such
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as street sweepers and the
vector truck shown here.
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Here you see the requirements
of our MS four permit issued
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by the Environmental Protection Agency.
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MS four stands for municipal
separate storm sewer system.
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Our storm water drainage
system is different
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and separated from the
sanitary sewer system
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that flows from each customer's home
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and eventually arrives at the MWRA sewer
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treatment plant on Deer Island.
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Our stormwater drainage
system instead conveys
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water into the Charles River.
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In the middle of the page you
can see the phosphorus control
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plan, which is a mandated program
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that identifies specific targets
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to reduce phosphorus in our stormwater.
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Many of the program elements
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that you see here have been
in place for many years
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and will require increased investments
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to comply in the coming years.
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So turning to the budget,
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here's our proposed stormwater
budget for fiscal year 27.
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Compared to the current year,
the total budget highlighted
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in yellow and including capital
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and contingencies is $2.96 million
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and level funded from FY 26.
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Personal services are
expected to increase by 1.2%
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and like all of our other
budgets include general increases
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of 2% for management pay plan
staff, 2% for group 40 staff
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and no increase for union staff.
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I'll get the H and the S
categories squared away at some
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point, but old old habits die hard here.
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The stormwater personal services
budget reflects the effort
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of about 10 FTEs.
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There's no change in expenses, capital
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or contingency in FY 27.
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So the bottom line shows
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that we're seeking your authorization
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to spend $2,963,327
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in FY 27.
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And again, there's no
increase in the stormwater
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fee expected this year.
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As a reminder of how our fees are set up,
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we use the median impervious area
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or IA for a single family
residential property.
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The median amount is referred to
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as an equivalent residential unit
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or ERU, which in Wellesley
is 3,100 square feet
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of impervious area.
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We separate properties into
four tiers for the purpose
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of calculating an an equitable
fee across a wide range
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of impervious area throughout town.
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Tier four also includes non-residential
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and multifamily residential properties.
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The chart at the bottom
of this slide shows
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the rate for each tier.
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About half of all properties
are considered to be equal
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to one ERU properties
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with less impervious area
are considered to be 0.7 eru
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and properties with more
impervious area are considered
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to be 1.7.
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ERUs properties in tier four
are calculated proportionally
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based on their actual impervious area.
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What that means is that
the average single family
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residential property is
charged an annual fee of $225
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and this fee appears on your
utility bill in the amount
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of $18 and 75 cents each month.
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The Board of Public Works will
have a public hearing in May
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before fees are finalized
and adopted for next year.
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Again, we're planning no
increase in stormwater this year.
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It's our goal to provide stable
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and predictable rates for our customers.
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And we've taken a long-term
view to help ensure
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that the current fee of $225
per ERU will not be increased
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through FY 29 and
hopefully well beyond that.
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We thought it would be helpful to show you
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how the proposed fee stacks
up with some of our neighbors.
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When we first started compiling
this data, it appeared
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that our fee was higher than others.
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We learned a couple of important things
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during this benchmarking exercise.
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First, we found that some towns decide
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to not fund their entire
storm water through their fee.
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Instead, they continued
to use tax appropriations
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to fund portions of their program.
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For example, Newton charges
a flat $148 per year
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and this does not cover the
cost of their capital program,
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which is about $3 million per year.
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One other thing that we found is that many
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of the early stormwater fee
adopters have not yet had
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to incorporate the full impact of of
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phosphorus control requirements coming
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with the latest EPA permit.
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I suspect that we'll see
increased fees for most
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of these towns as they start
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to incorporate more fo phosphorus control
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measures into their program.
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One of the recent examples
to come online is the town
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of Dedham, and they do
include their full program.
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We see that their fee
is just a bit higher,
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but in the same ballpark as ours.
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By comparison, needham's
rate is much lower than ours
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and they still fund
portions of their program
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through the general fund.
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Here we've got some more benchmarking.
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This slide shows some several
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recently adopted stormwater
enterprise funds in the area.
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I think this indicates that
our neighbors are finding
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that the enterprise
fund model is a helpful
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way to address stormwater.
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And then you see this slide again,
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you see the benchmarking
comparison that includes all three
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of our enterprise funds, the
combined average residential
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bill for water, sewer, and stormwater.
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And again, keep in mind that Needham
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and Natick still funds some
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or all of their program,
stormwater program
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through their general fund.
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As a reminder, we developed a
stormwater property viewer so
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that anyone can look up their
properties impervious area
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and to see their fee, you
can go to this QR code
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to look up a property
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or you can go to the DPW
stormwater webpage anytime
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to check out the property viewer.
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Just a word about abatements and credits.
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Abatements and credits
are an important part
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of a successful program.
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Abatements are considered
to address mapping
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and other issues that
need to be corrected.
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And credits are important
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because we can't meet
the permit requirements
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by town Action alone
credits provide incentives
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for stormwater improvements
on private land
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and help us comply with our permit.
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Partnership on public and
private land is essential.
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This slide shows some of the credits
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that we're currently offering so far.
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The stormwater control
measure credit is the most
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frequently credit that we've issued.
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And this slide shows the credit
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and abatement activity so far,
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which you can see has tailed
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off dramatically since we started.
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We encourage everyone to
review the available credits
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and to reach out if you have any questions
-
and need help applying.
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So the next two slides show some
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of the many stormwater
related accomplishments.
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Over the past year, we've
identified about a hundred capital
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improvement projects that
are now in our work plan.
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We completed a green
infrastructure project
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at Bates Elementary School.
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We completed design permitting
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and bidding for dredging of duck
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and reeds ponds, which
you'll see under Article 15.
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And we completed an outfall rela
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replacement at Woodland Road.
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We also facilitated an Eagle Scout project
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to stencil catch basins
with don't dump messaging.
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And we've applied for several state
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and federal grants to
help offset the costs
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of the stormwater program.
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For more information, check
out our website@wellsyma.gov
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slash 2 2 2 3.
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And if you have questions about stormwater
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or any of the D PW programs,
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please contact us anytime
at dpw, at wellsy ma.gov.
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And we also encourage you
to follow us on social media
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to stay up with all things dpw, we ask
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for your favorable action on this motion.
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- Okay, Mr. Riley, we'll now
deliver the recommendation
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of the advisory committee
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- Madison Riley.
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Mr. Moderator Mr. Riley,
regarding Article 13,
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the advisory committee
believes that the operating
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and capital budgets proposed
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for the Stormwater Enterprise
Fund are appropriate.
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It also remarked that this
enterprise fund established in at
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the 2023 annual town meeting
seems to be working as planned
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advisory recommends
favorable action 12 to zero.
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- Okay, thank you Mr. Riley.
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The floor is now open
for discussion, questions
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and debate on the motion under Article 13.
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Mr. Criswell,
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- Am I doing this right?
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Jeff? Paul Criswell precinct.
H Mr. Moderator, Mr.
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- Criswell
- Through you Mr.
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Moderator, I have a question about the,
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the rate stabilization fund
and the emergency reserve.
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As I understand this, out
of a total authorized use
-
of almost $3 million, you've got about
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650,000 of it.
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It goes into rate stabilization
and emergency reserve.
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So I guess my question is what can,
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can you talk a little about
the rate stabilization?
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What's the, the current
level of, of that fund?
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I think it's been funded
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around $400,000 for the past few years.
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And do you have a, a policy as to
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how much you'll pay into it every year
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and at what point you'll
start to use that in order
-
to keep rate increases down.
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- Okay. Current Mr. Cohen,
the, the current amount
-
of the rate stabilization
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and is there a policy on
-
how much show will be
going into it each year?
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- Dave Cohen, Mr. Moderator,
- Mr. Cohen.
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- So our rate stabilization
fund we're endeavoring to
-
put aside 10% of revenue into that fund.
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And so, so that, that's the
contribution that we're,
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we're, we're aiming for.
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There is no formal policy in place,
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but with our new finance
director, that's something
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that we've talked about
and we are looking forward
-
to coming up with standards for
not just the, the stormwater
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but also for water and for sewer.
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I hope that answered your question.
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- Okay. Thank you. I think I saw
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Ms. Robinson right behind Mr.
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Chriswell. So Ms. Robinson,
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- I'll try Mr.
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Moderator Marla Robinson precinct E
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- So, so far so good.
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- Okay, so I pulled this off the consent
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agenda for a couple of reasons.
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Several, I had several questions
-
and the DPW reached out to me
and those were answered in Mr.
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Cohen's presentation.
I do have one comment
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that I would hope the DPW board
-
and the DPW department
would take seriously
-
and give some thought to.
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We have a lot of new homes in Wellesley.
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Most of the time they're very large homes
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and compared to some of our
surrounding towns, we don't have
-
as robust regulations in terms
-
of managing the water on properties.
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And unless the developer comes
under large house review,
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there really is no way to manage that.
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If the town is serious about
managing its stormwater,
-
then I think it is really
important that we look at
-
how water is managed on
residential properties
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and how it does not affect the
neighboring properties along
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with the town's properties.
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So I would really recommend
that whether the DPW works
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with another town board
to develop regulations
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or new bylaws, I think it is
time that we look at that.
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Seriously. Thank you.
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- Okay. Mr. Jones?
- Pete Jones, precinct, Pete, Mr. Myron,
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- Mr. Jones,
- Through you, as you know
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in the large homes came up as a,
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as a topic just a minute ago.
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We request that everyone
takes all their storm water
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and ba basically buries it
in the ground in very large
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devices called cold texts.
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These devices cost tens
of thousands of dollars
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for these large homes, et cetera.
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When you look at that, I, I see
that you do a square footage
-
analysis, but when you
look at that in the cost
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that it costs these individuals
to pay tens of thousands
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of dollars for these cult techs,
-
how much revenue is
lost on an annual basis
-
by these folks submitting a, a credit
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or some sort of a reprieve from that
-
high stormwater U square footage?
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- So the Mr. Cohen, the
amount of revenue that's lost
-
by people who are using this device
-
that Mr. Jones referenced.
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- Mr. Moderator, Dave Cohen. Yes, Mr. Be
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- Mr.
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Yep.
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- So as far as the the
credits go, that type
-
of device would be eligible for up
-
to a 50% credit on your rate.
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This is the one you want.
That's the, that's the one.
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As you can see, we haven't had that many
-
of these credit applications so far.
-
I don't have the revenue amount,
-
but I would say that it's
insignificant so far.
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But we do encourage people
to apply for that credit
-
as it does significantly
reduce their stormwater impact.
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- Yeah. Back up question Mr. Monte.
-
A second question on that.
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So are you saying that possibly
-
we're not keeping track
of the lost revenue
-
because if we don't get
the revenue from those
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larger houses, that puts
more pressure on the smaller
-
dwellings, et cetera, that
have less square footage.
-
And so I guess the question is,
-
it's revenue loss in both directions.
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- Mr. Moderat, Dave Cohen? Yes. Mr. Cohen?
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So we're keeping track
of all of the credits.
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I don't, I don't have the
dollar amount available,
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I don't have it on me right now,
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but the value of any
-
of those credits would
be 50% of their fee.
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So if their fee was $225
-
and they could save 50 of it, 50% of that
-
through the credit, then
they would save a hundred
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and about a hundred dollars.
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And if we've issued say one
credit so far this year,
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the lost revenue is
about a hundred dollars.
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- Okay. Thanks
- Mr. Jaffe.
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- Mr. Moderator, judge Jaffe precinct
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- G Mr. Jaffe
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- For Mr. Cohen?
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For you, Mr. Cohen, quick question.
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I hadn't appreciated this in prior years,
-
but if I understand it
correctly now, so none
-
of the town properties are
-
contributing to this enterprise fund.
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So in the sense that whereas like we
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as homeowners are contributing
based on our impervious
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surface, if I understand
correctly, no town department has
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to budget for paying
for, for example, a fee
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for the high schools impervious services.
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And so I guess the question
is, is that correct
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and how does that compare
with the enterprise funds
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for water and electricity?
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So for example, is the
school department or
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or other departments having
to budget for electricity
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and water or are they also not paying?
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If there is a difference, if
you could just explain the
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thought process behind
that, that'd be great.
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- Alright. Is, is there
a different standard
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for town property for the
various enterprise funds?
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- Dave Cohen, Mr.
Moderator, this is Cohen.
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So it is true that
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all town properties are exempt
from the stormwater fee.
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That was what we found as
we were developing the,
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the stormwater enterprise.
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That was the, seemed
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to be the standard practice
in the industry different from
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water, sewer and electric,
all town properties pay
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for water, sewer, and electric services.
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That has traditionally
been the way it's done.
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So there is a difference between the two.
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And you are correct
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- Paul, question
- Go ahead. One more
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- One, one quick call.
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Was any analysis done of sort of how
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that's affected the distribution of
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who in the town is paying for
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impervious services in the high
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school and other town properties?
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So I can imagine like being
able to present to the town that
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as a result of that decision,
you know, these types
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of homeowners are tending
to contribute more
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to those costs than other
homeowners relative to what the,
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the scenario was back when we were
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paying out of property taxes.
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- So the question has
to do with what was the,
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what's the impact of the
policy regarding town
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property not participating
in the stormwater
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- Mr.
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Moderator Dave Cohen director.
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So yeah, we did do some
analysis about that.
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And you might recall from our,
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our presentation when we
set up the enterprise fund,
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the one thing that was
added into the fund was
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it's all properties
except for town property.
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So now it does include non non-profits,
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which previously would've
been exempt from taxes and
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therefore not contributing to the,
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to the stormwater program.
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So now those nonprofits are so not
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tax exempt properties are
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contributing to the stormwater fee.
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I don't have the analysis at the tip
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of my fingers about the town properties,
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but the thinking going into it was
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we didn't think it would
be a good way to go
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to set up an enterprise fund
that was gonna create a new tax
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that the town would have to raise.
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And so the town department
budgets would then
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have to increase to cover that.
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And so that's the way we decided to do it.
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It seemed prudent, but it is something
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that could be discussed further.
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- Thanks.
- Okay, Ms. Dy?
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- Christina Doherty precinct
age. Ms. Dy through you.
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So my question actually
ties into a future article
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that we're about to hear
Article 15, motion two,
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but basically it's the stormwater fund is
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contributing $450,000
to dredging of the pond.
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And I'm just curious where
that falls in the budget.
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Where would that be the 'cause I'm
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- Assuming that's a one time.
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Thanks. Okay.
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- Where, where does the dredging
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money fit within the budget?
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- Yep. Dave Cohen, DP of
a director. Mr. Moderator.
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So the, the money that we've allocated for
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that is actually from our capital budget
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and it's from prior year
budgets that we have available.
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So it's not an FY 27 expense,
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that's from prior year capital
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budgets that we have available.
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- Okay. Ms. Quigley,
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- Patty Quigley, precinct
D, Mr. Moderator, Ms.
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- Quigley.
- David, did you mention
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that the board was voting
in May on the rates?
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Did I hear you correctly?
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- Is the board voting in
May on the rates Mr. Cohen?
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- Yes.
- So as a follow up,
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is there a reason why
the board votes on rates
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after town meeting as opposed
to before town meeting?
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- Why? Why is the board voting
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after town meeting rather than before?
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- Right. Actually the, yeah,
good question. Dave Cohen, Mr.
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Moderator. Mr. Cohen.
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So the board would vote on the rates
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after the budgets have been approved.
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So it wouldn't be prudent for
them to do that beforehand.
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So I think traditionally that's
why there's also some other
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information that we get,
especially from the MWRA
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and so that information continues
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to trickle in sometimes
even after town meeting.
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So the idea is that we're
working on the latest
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and greatest information when
they go to set the rates.
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- Okay. And then just
as a more informational,
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when our town does a budget, they can't go
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between personnel and expenses.
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- Answer the microphone please.
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- Sure. And when our
town does their budget,
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they can't switch money between
one category and another
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and there's a difference with
the schools that they can,
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for the enterprise funds,
can they move money around?
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- Dave Cohen? Mr. Moderator?
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- Okay, question? Yep.
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Is can you move the money
around after the budget
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- Is approved?
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No, we can't. So personal services
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and expenses are separate
and need to be kept separate.
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- Okay. And then when you
get a discount for impervious
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services or Pious lan, do you need
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to get that reviewed all the time
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or once you have it evaluated, it kind
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of sits on your property?
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- Okay. Does the exemption
have to be renewed?
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- Dave Cohen, Mr. Moderator? Mr. Cohen?
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I'm being advised that it
stays with the property
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so you don't have to seek that every year.
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- Okay. Not seeing any more town meeting
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members approaching the microphone.
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Are there any non town
meeting members in the back
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of the hall who wish to be heard?
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Okay, not seeing any? I think
we're ready for the vote.
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We can do this by voice vote.
All in favor say aye. Aye.
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All opposed nay. Motion one.
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Under Article 13 passes
unanimously by voice vote.
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Article 13 is now closed.
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Article 14 has previously
been approved as part
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of the consent agenda.
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So we now turn to Article 15. Motion two.
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Motion one has been approved
as part of the consent agenda
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and I recognize Mr. Murphy the chair
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of the CPC for the motion.
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- Thank you. Stephen
Murphy, precinct D Chair
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of the Community Preservation Committee.
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- Yes. Mr. Murphy.
- First off, Mr. Cohen, thank you
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for the modification of the podium.
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First I'd like to request the waiver
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or the reading of the motion
as it appears on the screen.
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- Reading of the motion is waived
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- And the motion has been
distributed by time meeting.
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This motion requests the
appropriation of the lesser
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of the sum of $750,000
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or 50% of the cost
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for from the town CPA
fund for the dredging
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of the Duck Pond and Reeds Pond.
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The other sources of funding
are from a prior NRC capital
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appropriation and
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as just mentioned the DPW
Stormwater Utility Fund.
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In a moment, the NRC director will walk us
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through this project,
but first I would note,
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although he will go into further detail,
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the bidding has closed, it's been opened,
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a contractor has been selected and the,
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and the costs have been established
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and the cost of the project is
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$1,485,800.
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So 50% of that which is going
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to be the amount expended
from the CPA fund will be
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7,004 42,750
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and which is about $7,200
less than the seven 50 max
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project qualifies for funding
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of the Community Preservation
Act as the preservation,
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rehabilitation, and restoration
of land for recreational use
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and is preservation of open space.
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However, since there's only
about $10,000 in the open State
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Space Reserve due to the CPA portion
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of the North 40 death service,
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the appropriation tonight
is wholly from the
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CPA Undesignated funds.
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Little history. In a 2012
special time beating,
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tell many appropriated CP
funds to cover a portion
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of the cost for the dredging
of Mors Ponds North Basin
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and then a few years later we
appropriated CPA funds first
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for the design and then
for the construction
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of the pedestrian bridge at the duck pond.
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So these two sides are things, activities,
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is something we have done before.
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Now, Mr. Moderator, I would request
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that you would recognize Mr.
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Brandis Schmidt, the director of the NRC,
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who will carry on with this presentation.
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- Yes, Mr. Schmidt? Thank
- You.
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- Thank you. Mr. Moderator.
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Brandon Schmidt, natural
Resources Commission
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Director Mr. Schmidt.
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And thank you Mr. Murphy.
And good evening everyone.
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Article 15, motion, oh, there we go.
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Motion two, ask this Town meeting
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to approve existing Community
Preservation Act funding of up
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to $750,000 for the dredging
of Duck and Reeds Pond.
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The Natural Resources Commission has care
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and custody of 10 public ponds.
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In coordination with the
Public Works department.
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The ponds are managed for
water quality, recreation
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and stormwater management.
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The nature of the management
strategy depends on several
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factors and is primarily
driven by the relative size
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of the pond compared to its watershed.
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With support from the Community
Preservation Committee in
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2015, the NRC developed a
comprehensive pond management plan
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with former pond manager, Dr.
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Ken Wagner. The plan was an extension
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of the Moore Pond Management program.
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Outlined the existing conditions
of the town owned ponds
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and made recommendations
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for management including
phosphorus reduction,
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plant management, sediment removal,
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and dredging in certain circumstances.
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Beginning in January 25,
McAllister Marine Engineering, one
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of the town, one of the DP
W'S on-call engineering firms,
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began developing design
documents for the dredging
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of Reed and Duck Pond.
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The designs were discussed
and approved at NRC meetings
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and then finalized
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and submitted to the
Wetlands Protection Committee
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who issued an order of conditions.
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That's the wetlands permit in November.
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The project also requires a
water quality certification from
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the state, and that application
is currently under review
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by the DEP six of the town ponds.
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Have been dredged over the last 30 years,
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including the State Street pond
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during the Fuller Book Park Restoration,
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and a large portion of
Moore's Pond in 2012 and 2013.
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While regulations
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and costs make dredging
a challenging practice,
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it remains essential for
re restoring pond capacity
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and also helps with other pond problems,
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including rooted plants, algae
mats, and oxygen depression.
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In addition to the typical
pond management practices,
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as the DPW Director stated,
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they conduct comprehensive
street sweeping catch basin
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clearing and brook maintenance programs
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to help reduce the impact
of uncontrolled sediment
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and organic material.
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The approved plans for
Reed's Pond include dredging
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approximately 1500 cubic
yards from the pond
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during the winter after the
pond level has been lowered.
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Dredging sediment will
be dewatered in the pond,
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then transported offsite.
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The Reeds pond dredge
material requires special depo
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disposal as the soil samples
included levels of arsenic
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that exceeded thresholds
for regular disposal.
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While the DPW removes sediment
from the four bay on a
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regular basis, wreath's
pond was last fully dredged
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28 years ago.
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Duck Pond will be dredged
in a similar fashion
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after the pond has been
lowered in the winter
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and in two phases, two phases for the east
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and west channels.
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Approximately 950 cubic yards
will be removed from the pond.
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Duck pond was last dredged 20 years ago.
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Both dredging projects are
designed to limit disturbance
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to the existing conditions at each pond.
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The town received a total
of seven competitive bids,
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adding in construction management
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and environmental compliance,
as well as plan repairs
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to the outlet structures at
both ponds and contingency.
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The total anticipated budget is
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$1,485,000 and $800.
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The requested CPC funds will
be matched by existing NRC
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and DPW capital funds.
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This funding arrangement
reflects the D-P-W-C-P-C
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and NRCS collaborative partnership
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and commitment to preserving, enhancing,
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and investing in the
highest quality out open
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spaces for the community.
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In closing, and on behalf
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of all Wellesley Waterfall
Waterfowl, I thank you
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for listening and ask you
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for your favorable action
and welcome. Any question?
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- Okay. Thank you Mr. Schmidt.
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Mr. Riley, can we have the
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advisory recommendation on
motion two under Article 15
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- Madison Re, Mr. Moderator
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- Mr. Reilly,
- Regarding Article 15, motion two.
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Duck Pond at Town Hall
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and Reed's Pond are
special natural spaces.
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They play a critical role
in Wellesley's storm water
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management advisory notes
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that periodic dredging is important
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for the pond's long term health.
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For these reasons, advisory
supports, this motion
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advisory also feels the
motion is appropriate
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and appropriate use of CPC resources
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and appreciates the cooperative
effort between the NRC,
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the DPW and CPC to
preserve the functionality
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and use of these ponds
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and commend to all three entities
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for supporting this project financially
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Advisory recommends
favorable action 12 to zero
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with one abstention.
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- Okay. The floor is now
open for question, debate
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and discussion on motion
two under radical 15.
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- Regina Larock precinct E.
- Yes. Mr. Larock
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- Through you.
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Question to Mr. Schmidt. Yeah.
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Could you elaborate on the
source of arsenic in the pond
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and how measures will be
taken during the dredging
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to prevent contamination?
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- I think a lot of us are
wondering about that. Mr. Schmidt?
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- I, I'm sorry, Mr. Ade,
what? What did you say?
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- I said I think a lot
of us were wondering
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about that. I certainly was.
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- Yes. Well, I was researching this.
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The reality is we don't
really know the source,
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but this is, especially
in reeds, this is one
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of the largest watersheds
compared to the pond.
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So we have neighboring communities,
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but much like PFAS, this arsenic is a,
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a former product of
agricultural pesticides.
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So I guess this is the
perfect opportunity to pitch
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of converting your lawns
to a pesticide free.
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You can do it right now.
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It's the perfect time of year
to stop poisoning your yard.
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But yeah, so I think the
primary source of arsenic is
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agricultural pesticides.
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There is natural arsenic
in our environment,
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but again, I think there
are different thresholds.
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And this threshold was
the first that's met
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that requires special disposal.
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- Mr. Moderator, Regina LaRoc?
- Yes. Ms. LaRoc,
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- I'm sorry.
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If I could just make a follow
up comment to what you said.
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I think it's important for us to remember
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that our ponds are the filtrate
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through which our
groundwater that we drink
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happens to be there.
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And so I guess I wanna underscore
a topic we've discussed
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before, which is that perhaps it is time
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to really emphasize getting our
drinking water from a source
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that is not contaminated.
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IE that doesn't require us to filter it.
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So the MWRA has historically not had
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as much contamination issues,
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and I hope that the Board
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of Public Works will be
thinking about this with regard
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to our drinking water
sources in the future.
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Just a comment. Thank you.
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- Okay. Is there anybody else that
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wishes to be heard on this? Mr.
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- Moderat?
- Oh, Mr. Jones. How did I miss you?
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- Pete Jones precinct Pete.
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Mr. Jones moderator,
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this is a question on cost and whether
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or not the culverts have been
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checked out, they're
supplying the duck pond
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and whether there was any
costs involved in that.
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As many people know here in
town, have been here for a while
-
that the site that Roach
Brothers is currently on used
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to be a crystal clear pond,
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which they filled in in the early days,
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and that's been ducked
over to the duck pond.
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And the question is, did
we check out those routes
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and the pricing?
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Does that include any cleaning
of those Culver paths?
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- Okay. Has attention been paid
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to the culverts leading to the ponds?
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- The scope of this project
does not include evaluation
-
of the culverts that drain into duck pond,
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but there is a, a pipe in
between the two channels that
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was evaluated and will be cleaned out.
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- Okay? No more town
meeting members rising.
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Anybody in the back of the
hall, which should be heard?
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Who are residents of the
town? Okay. Not seeing anyone.
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I think we're ready for a voice
vote. All in favor say aye.
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Aye. All opposed Nay. Motion two.
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Under Article 15 passes
by voice vote unanimously.
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And Article motion two is closed.
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And we move to article motion
three under Article 15.
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And I recognize Mr. Murphy,
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- Stephen Murphy, precinct
D Chair of the CPC
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- Mr. Murphy.
-
- First of all, thank
you for the last vote.
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For the last vote. I request
a waiver of the reading
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of this motion as it
appears on the screen.
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And it's been previously,
previously distributed
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to town meeting members. Okay.
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- The reading of the motion is waived
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- Through this motion.
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We request the appropriation
of $450,000 to the Board
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of Public Works for the third
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and final stage of the DP
W'S Playground Improvements
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Project, and in this
time addresses the needs
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for the playgrounds at the Spring school,
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the Honeywell Field
tot Lot and Paren Park.
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The project qualifies
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for funding under the
Community Preservation Act
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as the rehabilitation of land
for the recreational use.
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The definition of rehabilitation
on the CPA includes in part
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that with respect to land
for recreational use,
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rehabilitation shall
include the replacement
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of playground equipment and
other capital improvements.
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The land or the facilities
thereon, which make
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or the related facilities more functional
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for the intended recreational use.
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Statutory language product
includes also the replacement
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of the playground surfaces
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to meet the AADA a's
accessibility standards
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and to provide accessible
play options for all children.
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Providing such accessibility
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and lands for recreation use
is also an important goal under
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the CPA through its definition
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of rehabilitation in
section one of the act.
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Mr. Moderator, he's been resting
for maybe about 10 minutes.
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Would you recognize Mr. David
Cohen, director of the public
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or to pirate of the public works
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who will continue with
this presentation? Yes.
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- Mr. Cohen.
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- Dave Cohen. DPW Director, Mr. Moderator.
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- Mr. Cohen,
- If you're following your scorecard,
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we're in Framingham
now, so it's my pleasure
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to present Article 15
playground reconstruction.
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This motion, this
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motion seeks $450,000 in CP funding.
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Funding for the third
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and final year of our expedited
playground replacement plan,
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which will replace Warren
Structures, improve safety
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and accessibility, and
provide for more contemporary
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and thoughtful design to meet
the needs of the community.
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The town has 18 playgrounds at
16 locations throughout town.
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11 playgrounds are on school
property and seven are on NRC.
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Property funding was approved last year
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for Fisk Ette and Upham Playgrounds.
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Work at FIS and Upham
will start this summer.
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An ette is scheduled for this fall.
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Regarding uumm, we're
planning only minor upgrades
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until more definitive plans
are made for that location,
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but we have the funds and
we're ready to do more work
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and a more complete renovation
at the appropriate time.
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Our plan for FY 27 includes Sprague Perrin
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and the Honeywell Honeywell Field tot lot.
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To give you a sense of where things are,
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here's a map showing all the
playground locations throughout
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town, the previously funded
locations and and work is shown.
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The blue circles and
the playgrounds proposed
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for FY 27 are shown in red.
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This slide shows the scope of work
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and estimated allocations for each
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of the playgrounds in FY 27,
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and that plan includes play
structures, play surfaces,
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fencing, and ad a DA improvements.
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We appreciate the CP C'S
support of this program
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and we ask for your favorable
action on this motion.
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- Okay. Mr. Riley will now
deliver the recommendation
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of the advisory committee
on Article Motion three
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under Article 15,
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- Madison Riley, Mr. Moderator
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- Mr. Riley,
- Regarding Article 15, motion three
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CPC funds can be used for
recreational activities
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and play Playgrounds
certainly fit that definition.
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Delightful spaces for
families to be outside,
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enjoying playtime together
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and promoting mental health and exercise.
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This motion continues a
multi-year plan to upgrade all 18
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of Wellesley's Playgrounds,
making them more safe,
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playable, and accessible.
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As one of our colleagues in
this town meeting colleagues
-
pointed out, there's still
work to be done at Upham.
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We had claim, we had said
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that if this passes all
playgrounds would be upgraded,
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but there's still work
to be done at Upham.
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As Mr. Cohen said, nevertheless,
advisory fully supports
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the use of these CPC funds
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and appreciates the coordinated
effort between CPC and DPW.
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We recommend favorable action 12 to zero
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with one abstention.
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- Okay, it's now eight 19
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and we will open the floor
for question, discussion
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and debate on the motion
under motion three.
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Under Article 15,
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- Leanne
- Leiman, precinct C Mr.
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Moderat moderator? Yes, ma'am.
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A question to through you,
to Mr. Cohen, can you clarify
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when the additional
work at Uum will be done
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and where will that money
that you said is allocated?
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Where is that coming from?
Is it from the money that we
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approved last year that was not spent?
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- When will the work be done on Upham
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and where's the money coming from?
-
- Right. Dave Cohen, DPW Director,
Mr. Moderator, Mr. Cohen.
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So the minor work
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that we're planning will
be this spring and summer.
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And then our, our expectation
is we've always been sort
-
of optimistic that we're gonna find out
-
what the final plans are for Uum,
-
but that's not forthcoming.
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So we don't think it's prudent
-
to make significant investments
at that location yet.
-
But we have the money and we're ready
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to go when we get Word.
-
And I think the way I'm thinking of it is
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that we'll continue to
work with the school
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and see what their intentions are.
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And if it doesn't seem like
there's going to be a plan
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for Uum, then perhaps we just
move forward with some sort
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of renovation at that site.
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Now maybe we review that over the winter
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and then come into next spring with a plan
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for doing something next year.
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- Okay. And, and the money is coming
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from what we approved last
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- Year.
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- We already have the money. Okay.
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- Thank you
-
Mr.
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Moderator. Regina Larock, precinct e Ms.
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- Larock,
- Many communities have banned
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artificial turf or other plastic products
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for use on playground surfaces.
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And these products pose risks
to children as well as toxins
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that are leached into the ground.
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So I'm curious if there
could be an explanation
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of the port in place surfaces
that you're referring to
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and how you are thinking
about those issues with regard
-
to playground construction. Thanks.
-
- Okay. What consideration
is given to the impact of
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the artificial flooring and
what's being done about it?
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- Sure. Dave Cohen, DPW
Director, Mr. Moderator,
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- Mr. Cohen.
-
- So yeah, we are aware of concerns
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with the port in place surface.
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So as we look to u continue
to use that surface at some
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of our locations, we, we charge
our vendors with making sure
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that we have the, the most preferred specs
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that we can look at, which
is generally speaking, the,
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the specifications that are
coming outta California.
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And we wanna make sure that
we're, we're following that
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to that standard.
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I also will note that the
NRC for the very reason that
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the member mentioned, has decided
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to move away from the poured
surfaces on their properties.
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And so for any NRC projects
in general going forward,
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we'll be looking for
more natural solutions.
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And to that regard, we'll
be looking for natural,
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so solutions as we go forward.
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And what we're always trying
to do is strike the balance
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between the need to make sure
that we have safe spaces,
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healthy spaces, but also spaces
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that are accessible for all of our users.
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So it's a balance that
we're trying to strike
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and we'll continue to do the best we can.
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- Okay. Mr. Fessler,
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- Mr.
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Moderator, Steve Fessler, precinct C Mr.
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Fessler, through you,
I'd like to first of all
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rise in support of this motion
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and compliment all the work
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that's being done on the playgrounds,
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but speaking on behalf
of Precinct C would like
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to very strongly urge Mr. Cohen
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to not hold off on the up A plans until
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the overall plan for Upham is decided.
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Not because, not in favor of
looking at forward on Upham,
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but just realistically in light
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of all the capital projects going on here
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and the timeframe we're
talking about, the little kids
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who are now eligible
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and looking forward to play
on the new Uumm playground
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might be attending this high
school by the time that we,
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we get to a set plan.
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So please, please don't hold off on that.
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And I'd, I'd like to ask if,
what would the process be
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to realistically look at how
the UP plans would be applied?
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- Okay. The, the process
to determine when, when
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you'll be taking care
of the upper playground.
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- Sure. Dave Cohen, DPW Director,
Mr. Moderator. Mr. Cohen.
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So the bottom line is that
this is a school property
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and so we'll, we're acting on their behalf
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and we will take guidance from them.
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So our role and our plan for
this spring is to make sure
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that we take care of any safety issues
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and any, any minor things that,
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that need immediate attention.
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It's the school department
who's gonna ultimately
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decide what the plans are.
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But that conversation
will probably dovetail
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with the town's capital
planning process to see
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what funds might be available
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for whatever projects there might be.
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So the reason why it's important to know
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what the final disposition
of that's gonna be is
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because of the type of
playground that you would put in.
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If it was gonna be a play,
a preschool for example,
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there's a certain type
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of structure that you might put there.
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If it's going to be elementary age
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or older, then you would
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do something a little bit different.
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So we need a little more information
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before we can make that investment.
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And I'm in constant conversation
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with the school superintendent
who, who is very much aware
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and, and I'm sure they would like to come
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to some conclusion about
what they're doing on
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that property, but that's,
yet, it remains to be seen what
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that will be, but know
that it's something that
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that will continue to move forward.
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We understand the, the
needs of the neighborhood.
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We've heard from several
folks from the precinct
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and we're very much aware
that we, we don't want it
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to wait for too much longer. Alright,
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- Thank you.
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- Kathy Egan,
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precinct CI have a yeah to you Mr.
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Moderator, to really just a comment
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on the up on playground.
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I was there today with my
two of my grandchildren.
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I think it's absolutely fine.
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I think it could, it could
use a little bit of upgrading.
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It does not totally need to be replaced.
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The equipment is in very good condition.
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My grandchildren enjoyed
their four and six.
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They were able to play.
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I think we have so many
capital projects we cannot
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spend on everything.
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And I think it's fine
the way it's, thank you.
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- Okay. Not seeing any town meeting
-
members approaching the microphone.
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Are there any non town
meeting members in the back
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of the hall who wish to be heard?
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Okay. Not seeing anyone rye. Oops.
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Oh, I was faked out. Oh, okay.
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I think we can do a voice vote on this.
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All in favor say aye. Aye.
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All opposed, nay carries
by voice. Vote unanimously.
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Article 15 is now closed
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and I think we can do one more.
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Let's do Article 16. The Honeywell
Fields Irrigation System.
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Mr. Wexler,
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- Mr.
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precinct eight. Chair Board Public Works?
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- Yes. Mr. Wexler?
- Thank you.
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I ask that you waive the
reading of the motion
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as it appears on the screen
and was previously distributed.
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- Reading of the motion is waived.
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- Thank you. And I ask that
you recognize the director
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of the Department of
Public Works, Dave Cohen
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to Mr. Cohen to this matter.
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Thank you.
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- Dave Cohen, DP of a
director. Mr. Moderator.
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Mr. Cohen, I'm in Natick
now I need some orange
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slices so somebody help me out.
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So Mr. This article requests
$500,000 from free cash
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for the replacement and reconstruction
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of the irrigation system
at Honeywell Field.
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The system is 40 years old, It's well
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beyond its expected service life.
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This project has been in our capital plan
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and has been deferred previously
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due to competing priorities.
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The system provides
irrigation on the south side
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of the aqueduct for about
five acres of ball fields,
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including baseball, lacrosse, soccer,
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and the practice football field.
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The map on the lower
left shows the location
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and extent of the system piping,
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which includes nearly two miles of piping
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and over 130 sprinkler head
mechanisms shown on the lower
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right for your information.
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The system does not use water
from the town's drinking water
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system and is entirely fed by stormwater
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and groundwater from the
nearby aqueduct designed
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for this project was funded in FY 25
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and we'll complete the work this summer.
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If this is approved,
just take a quick plug.
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I also wanted to say, I'm
remiss not saying it before.
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I hope you've been able
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to follow along in the advisory writeups.
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I think the advisory book has a lot
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of excellent detail about all our programs
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and so really appreciate the
work that they put into that.
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We ask for your favorable
action on Article 16.
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- Okay, now I recognize Mr. Riley,
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chair of the advisory committee,
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- Madison Riley. Mr. Moderator
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- Mr. Riley
- Regarding Article 16,
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Honeywell Irrigation system
was originally installed in the
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early 1980s.
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I was in college now.
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Now beyond its life expectancy
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and regularly experiencing leaks,
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the system has needed
upgrading for several years
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but has been delayed due
to other town priorities.
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Advisory notes that
maintaining the irrigation
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of these fields is consistent
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with the town's water conservation plan
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because the system uses only
stormwater from the constituent
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aqueduct and not from the town.
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Water Supply Advisory sees
this motion as reasonable,
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timely, and an appropriate
use of free cash
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and advisory recommends
favorable action 12 to zero.
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- Thank you Mr. Riley. Okay,
the floor is now open for
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question, discussion and debate
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for the motion under Article 16,
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Mr.
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Himmel Berger.
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- David
- Himmel, precinct H Mr.
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- Himmel, - Mr. Moderator, I
don't have a question on this.
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I think I'm raising a point
of order with regard to,
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I'm looking for the, the reason,
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but you can raise it
for disorderly conduct.
-
And I just wanted to call out.
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We have a mouse problem up here.
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There are mice scurrying across the stage
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and I wanted to alert Ms.
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Cato, perhaps Mr.
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McDonough to the fact
that we have this issue.
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A number of us saw it
during the last discussion.
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I didn't want to interrupt the
conversation at that point,
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but it was very unsettling.
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- I didn't notice that Ms.
Cato was at all nervous.
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Anything further on this motion?
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- Yes.
- Okay.
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I guess we're ready for the vote. We can
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do this one by voice Vote.
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All in favor, say aye. Aye. All nay. Okay.
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The motion under Article 16 carries
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by voice vote unanimously.
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The motion under Article 16 is, excuse me,
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article 16 is now closed.
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Just hold on for one
second please. Yes. Yeah.
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Okay. So it's 25 off.
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Why don't we all go
have some birthday cake
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and be back here by five minutes of nine.
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He is carrying messages
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- Seventh 2026 at 7:00
PM in this same hall.
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- All in favor say aye. Aye.
Motion carries unanimously.
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Okay. I recognize Mr.
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Wexler for the motion under Article 19,
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the intersection of
Western and Lyndon roads.
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- By way, it scores two, two
for anyone that's wonder.
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- Mr. Wexler. - So Mr. Moderator
Jeff Wexler, precinct H?
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- Yes. Mr. Wexler Board
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- Of Public Works.
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And I ask that you
-
not sure if it's we're
getting some feedback.
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Is that, is that okay? Is it
screeching? Yep, it's good.
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Okay. I ask that you waive
the reading of the motion
-
as it appears on the screen
and was previously distributed.
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- Motion is waived. Reading
of the motion is waived.
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- Thank you. And I ask that
you recognize Dave Cohen,
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director of the DPW. Okay.
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- And I think he's rounding
into Wellesley now.
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So for those who are paying attention
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- Coming through the Scream tunnel.
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Yeah. So Dave Cohen, DPW Director,
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- Mr. Cohen moderator.
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- So this article requests authorization
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of $600,000 from free
cash to fund the design
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of improvements at the intersection
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of Weston Road at Linden Street.
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The advisory writeup on page 1
44 provides excellent details
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and background for this
request, which seeks
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to address longstanding
traffic and safety issues.
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Primarily, this project will seek
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to add a dedicated left
turn lane on the Weston Road
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southbound approach to Linden Street.
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The intersection will be
upgraded with full signal in,
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with full signalization to
replace the blinking red
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and yellow lights
currently at this location.
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Other improvements will
include upgraded pedestrian
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facilities, drainage, and
retaining wall and fence work.
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As mentioned in the advisory report,
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the 2024 Special Town meeting approved
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funds for land taking.
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Since we needed the additional space
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to construct these improvements,
our grant application
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for this project was denied,
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but we recently received word
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that we may receive a significant earmark
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that could partially offset
the cost of this project.
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This bill is pending in
the Senate right now,
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and we're working with our legislators
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to help secure this funding.
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Construction funding for
this project is currently
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programmed in the
capital budget for FY 28,
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and we ask for your favorable
action on Article 19.
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- Okay. Mr. Riley
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- Madison Riley, Mr.
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Moderator Mr. Riley,
regarding Article 19 advisory
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and unanimously supports the redesign
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of Linden Street and Weston Road.
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The intersection, this heavily
used intersection desperately
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needs safety improvements.
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And this article is a logical next step
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to the 2024 Special town
meeting, approval of the purchase
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of a budding land for this project,
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advisory recommends
favorable action 11 to zero
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with one recusal.
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- Okay. The floor is
now open for question,
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discussion and debate.
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The motion under radical 19.
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- Tamara Ecky precinct
- G. Yes, Ms. Ecky,
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- Last year the discussion
on this acknowledged
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that the intersection at 1 35
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and Weston Road would
be a downstream impact
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and must be a part of this project.
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But I don't see that intersection in the
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discussion this year.
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And it doesn't appear in the photo,
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in the, in the book either.
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So I'd like to have confirmation whether
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or not that intersection will be there.
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- Okay. That's the intersection of
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- 1 31, 1 35 and Wein
- Road 1 35 and Western Road.
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- The concern is that we're just kicking,
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potentially kicking the
problem further down south,
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basically on Wein Road.
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- Dave Cohen, dp, deputy of Director.
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- Yes. Mr. Cohen
- Moderator.
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So in fact, that is outside
the scope of this project.
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That intersection will
be included in the soon
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to come Wellesley Square
redevelopment project.
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And so that will be, it's
within the limits of the work
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that we'll be doing and we have a, a,
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a design for that project coming.
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So it's related but not part
-
of this particular intersection.
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- And if I could add a follow up.
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So what is the timing on
the, the Square project?
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What I'm concerned about is
that as that intersection gets
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redeveloped at Linden Street,
that they, there's a potential
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for, for backup to basically
be created at the intersection
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that's already problematic
at 1 35 in West, in Western
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- Road.
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Okay. So the, the timetable
for the Wellesley Square Rehab.
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- Yep. Dave Cohen, Mr.
Moderator, Mr. Cohen.
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So actually we're getting
set to award the contract
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for the Wellesley Square
project right now.
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So those two project will be synced up
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and we'll make sure that
they're talking to each other.
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It's all the same people who
will be coordinating that work.
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- Thank you
- Mr. Criswell.
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- Mr. Moderator, Paul
Criswell, precinct h Mr.
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- Criswell - Through you a
comment more than is a question.
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And as somebody who uses
this intersection regularly,
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I can certainly attest to
the fact that the traffic
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is, is horrible.
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But what I would really like
to urge the DPW to make sure
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that you do is to give a equal weight
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to the pedestrian aspects of this.
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Because as bad as the traffic is
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and as inconvenient as it
is to sit there waiting
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to make a left turn forever,
it's a whole lot worse
-
to be trying to cross
that from one of the, one
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of the sidewalks and really
taking your life in your
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hands to, to do that.
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Thank you.
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- Okay, Mr. Welburn?
- Yes, Mr.
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Moderator Peter Welburn, precinct C Mr.
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- Welburn,
- I just want to point out
-
that in this is an extremely
dangerous intersection in town
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and it's been a very
dangerous intersection
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in town for a long time.
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In 2012,
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a gentleman riding a bicycle
near this intersection was
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struck by a vehicle and killed.
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So I, I speak in favor of this
article tonight. Thank you.
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- Any anybody else wanna speak on
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the motion under radical 19?
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Any non town meeting
residents wanna speak?
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Okay, I think we can do a voice
vote. All in favor say aye.
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Aye. All opposed? Nay carries
unanimously by voice vote.
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Article 19 is closed
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and we move on to article
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20 feasibility study for the DBW campus.
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And I recognize Mr. Wexler,
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- Mr.
-
Moderator Jeff Wexler, precinct H,
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chair of the Board of Public Works.
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- Mr. Wexler,
- Thank you.
-
And I ask that you waive
the reading of the motion
-
as it appears on screen and has
been previously distributed.
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- The reading of the motion is waived.
-
- Okay, thank you. And
in a moment I'll ask
-
that you recognize Mr. Cohen,
-
but first I'd just like
to very quickly say
-
from a board perspective
what you're about to hear.
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This is about thoughtful, careful planning
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and we've talked a lot
about long-term capital.
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It's also thinking about what
investments should be made now
-
to properly determine the
much larger long-term capital
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expenditures so that they're
efficient, cost effective,
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and appropriate for the needs for the town
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for decades to come.
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And with that, I ask that you
recognize Mr. Cohen. Thank you
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- Mr. Cohen.
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Mr. Moderator, Dave Cohen,
DPW Director Mr. Cohen.
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We are undaunted that we
are heading towards Newton
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and Heartbreak Hill for this article,
-
but that's where we're at.
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So good evening.
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It's my pleasure to introduce Article 20
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DPW Campus Feasibility Study.
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I'm joined tonight by facilities
management director Joe
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McDonough, who will walk
through the presentation.
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But before turning it to Joe, I'd like
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to give some brief
context for this project.
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The Park and Highway
Building system study was,
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that was done in 2019, was
one of the final pieces
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of a multi-phase project
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that started back in
the mid two thousands.
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Through the system study, we
identified about $10 million
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of renovations needed in the
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75-year-old park and highway building.
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By the time this project was revived
-
after COVID, the estimate had
grown to over $13 million.
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We decided at that point to take a pause
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to see if there might
be another alternative.
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And that's when we undertook
the master planning process.
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The key objective of the master plan was
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to review our entire program to see
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how it might more effectively
fit on the Municipal Way
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campus and to see if the park
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and highway building to see
how it would fit if the park
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and highway building were to be replaced
-
rather than renovated.
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While we were going through
that process, we thought
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that it would be a good
idea to see if the land use
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and FMD departments could
also be accommodated
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with a permanent home on the same site.
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While not critical for our project
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and DPW operations, it seemed
like it could solve a problem
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that was coming down the road.
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It also seemed like an opportunity
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to create a more streamlined
customer experience
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through a one stop shop
municipal services building.
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For a bit of historical
perspective, the many phases
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of improvements at Municipal Way started
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with building a new water
and sewer garage in 2009
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and then a new DPW administration building
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that opened in 2012.
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Other aspects of the site were improved
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or replaced such as
the Salt shed, the park
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and highway roof, the park
and highway HVAC system,
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and the fuel depot,
which we just completed
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last this past year.
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Other phases such as a new
fleet maintenance High Bay
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and the storage shed have been
deferred several times over
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the years due to competing needs.
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But they still need to
be addressed in some
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way at some point.
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Which brings us to this request
for feasibility study funds.
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And with that I'll turn it over
to Joe for the presentation.
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Mr. Moderator, could you
please recognize Facilities
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Management director, Joe McDonough, Mr.
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Mc, Mr. McDonough,
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- Mr.
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Moderator, Joe McDonough,
facilities Director, Mr.
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McDonough. Good evening.
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This is gonna be, this project
will be one of the three
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or four major projects
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that the Town Wide Capital
Planning Committee will be
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considering as it starts up, I call it one
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of the anchor projects.
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So I'll talk about why
I think this meets some
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of the criteria of that
town wide Capital plan.
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So Dave covered a lot of this,
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but very quickly we, we did in FY 19,
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we did four small studies.
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Two were related to the
Municipal Way campus
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that were more building systems.
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They were by no means on the
level of a feasibility study.
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And we also did work at the RDF,
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which actually resulted in two projects.
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We replaced the
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sprinkler system in the Baylor
building a few years ago.
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And if you've been to the
RDF recently, you'll notice
-
that the foundation for the
new Administration building is
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actually going in as we speak.
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So there has been some good progress.
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Dave covered the, the history.
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September, 2020 submitted the report.
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There were delays like with a
lot of the other projects due
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to COVID and the two school projects.
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We ultimately came back with
updated costs to the PBC
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and the decision was made at that point.
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Let's focus on the RDF
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and let's pause on the
Municipal Way project.
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And I think Dave covered
that history pretty well.
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The gist of it was the new
cost estimate we had was now
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approaching $13 million.
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This is a 78-year-old building.
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We certainly got it service life.
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And we found out at that time
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that the renovation cost was higher.
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But also there was an issue with phasing
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where we gonna put the DPW operations
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during a renovation project.
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The study that we did was also not
-
as encompassing as it should have been.
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It didn't include the cold storage shed,
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it didn't include the fuel depot
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that was in the process of being replaced.
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Didn't look at EV charging
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or solars solar panels on the roof.
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And also it barely looked at
the fleet maintenance building,
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which we have vehicles
that are solar large
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that can't even be serviced
inside the building.
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So DPW requested $135,000 as part
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of an FY 25 cash capital
plan to do a master plan.
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We hired Weston and Sampson in 2024.
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And as you see here, the goal was
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to develop a comprehensive
long-term strategic guidance
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for the entire Municipal way
campus, not just the Park
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and Highway Building and Fleet.
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So some
-
of you who've heard us talk
about the Tomway Capital plan,
-
there's very specific criteria
in the plan for consideration
-
by the Town Wide Capital
Planning Committee as to
-
what projects should be
included in the plan,
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when should they be included in the plan.
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And one of, frankly,
-
what I think are the most
important criteria is
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how does the project line up
with the town's strategic plans
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such as, you know, the
unified plan, right?
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And I think as you've heard
tonight, looking at that picture
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of the post blizzard cleanup
at the DPW Park and Highway
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and DPW, all of their operations are part
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and parcel to all of these plans.
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You know, you look at the
unified plan, these are some
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of the chapters in the unified
plan, natural resources,
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parks, trails, mobility,
public facilities,
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infrastructure, sustainability.
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This is what DPW does.
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So it's such a natural
alignment with all of the plans,
-
the strategic initiatives in town.
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This project definitely aligns up with it.
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Some of the other plans,
open space recreation plan,
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municipal vulnerability
preparedness, sustainable mobility,
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and of course the municipal
sustainable building guidelines.
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So the plan itself that
looked at these buildings,
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the Highway Park Tree and
Fleet, the water sewer office
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and garage, that's the
17-year-old building
-
that Dave talked about.
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DPW administration engineering
building is 12 years old.
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Salt storage shed, prefab
shed, it's about 10 years old.
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Cold storage shed, we don't know
-
how old it is, it's very old.
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We can't find any plans on it.
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And then the new fuel depot
that was replaced recently.
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Then we looked at the site starting
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with the bulk material handling area.
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That's where gravel and sand in pipes
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and manholes, large outside
equipment and parts are stored.
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That's in the northern part of the site
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adjacent to Woodlawn.
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There's some environ
environmental restrictions
-
that we needed to consider
in this master plan,
-
including an activity use limitation,
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an A UL that'll show you
some graphics on later.
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And of course the goal is to try to limit
-
your work in those areas
or avoid them if possible.
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The western part of the site
has wetlands in the MBTA track
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and we have the cochituate
aqueduct on the right side.
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So these are things that we needed
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to think about in the study.
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So some of the conclusions you see here,
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the site is functionally inadequate
-
and there's not enough space.
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And you'll see that we basically,
-
we need double the square
footage of building space.
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What they have right
now, the 1948 building,
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we've talked about 78 years old
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as is pretty typical with old buildings.
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They're modified, they're added on
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to become very inefficient.
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We found that the newer
buildings, no surprise, right,
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the 17 and 14 and
10-year-old buildings, water
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and sewer administration
salt, she are adequate
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and can stay with little to
no work and highway park fleet
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and cold storage were
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beyond their service life
and need to be replaced.
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So those of you who are
not familiar with the site,
-
these aerials, I think will
give you a a good sense.
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So let's start with the top left.
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The park highway and fleet building.
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So you're looking kind of
northwest to the far left,
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that gray building, that's
the water and sewer garage.
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And then this L-shaped brick building
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that is park, highway and Fleet.
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And then in the foreground
you can see the fuel depot.
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And in the background to the right,
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that green shed structure,
that's the salt she,
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so the inside,
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the L-shaped building on the
left side is the garage area.
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On the right side is fleet storage
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and then kind of the knuckle area.
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That's where you have staff
offices, support spaces,
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lockers, muster rooms, et cetera.
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The lower right photo shows
you the cold storage shed.
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And it's called cold storage only
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because it has no heat,
it's, it's not refrigerated.
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But you can see in that photo
-
that you know parking
isn't an issue on site.
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So these photos are
actually seven years old
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and the situation hasn't gotten
much better in seven years.
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So, you know, top left Dave's
actually in this photo,
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men's bathroom top right, the
welding shop, which is typical
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of some of the shop spaces that we have.
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I hope that's not the most lower right,
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the vehicle wash bay.
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So you saw those vehicles
in the first slide.
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They get covered with salt and sand
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and we know that you can
extend the service life
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of these vehicles significantly
by maintaining them,
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by washing them regularly.
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So this is really a key
part of the program for DPW.
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And when we did the initial
study, we realized that most
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of the trucks couldn't even fit in here.
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So we were gonna raise
the roof, make it wider.
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By the time you do that, you're
looking at, you really need
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to build something new and then
lower left you can see it's
-
really tough to get all these
vehicles inside the space.
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It's just not big enough. Again,
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top left is the highway garage.
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Again, you can see the, the vehicles,
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the gym packed in there.
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Top right, this is a crane
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for the parks department in the shed
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and it just about fits in there.
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Lower left, you've seen
Dave talked about the
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one of the vacuum trucks.
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These are frontline pieces
of equipment. Very expensive.
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And you can see how tight it is
-
to get it in that particular bay.
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You better be a pretty good driver.
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Top left, this is the office
space they have, it's crammed.
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There's just not enough space
-
and it's of course it's old top right.
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This is locker and muster room.
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But it also doubles as
importantly the storm center.
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The emergency center. So most
of the new DPW facilities
-
that you see, they have a
dedicated emergency area
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where they can prepare
for storms and blizzards
-
and hurricanes get the latest weather
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and they can determine
how they're gonna go about
-
and attack these projects.
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But this is where they have
to work out of right now,
-
lower left, this is
mechanical electrical room.
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It's in the basement for this building.
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And you can see a little bit the
-
water that's coming in there.
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We have some pumps, but
water does get in there
-
and you know it's not a good thing
-
to be having your
electrical room in an area
-
where there's water
coming in and lower right.
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These are concrete walls
-
and concrete ceilings
above that electrical room.
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And we have spald concrete.
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We actually had to limit
the parking capacity
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above on the floor above that.
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We had to put some steel plates in there.
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So some of the, a number of
concepts were presented to DPW
-
and FMD by the consultant.
-
And some of the initial feedback
was the salt shed's fine,
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we don't need to do
anything, we don't need
-
to consider moving that DPW.
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Dave and his staff were very sensitive
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to the abutters on Woodlawn
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and they did not want to have
any additional development in
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that bulk storage area
up against Woodlawn.
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Parking was an issue,
definitely recognize that.
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And we identified the water
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and sewer administration, salt, she
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and Fuel depot as not
being a part of the project
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to do any additional work.
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And that the park and highway
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and the cold storage building
needed to be replaced.
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Some of the other things
that we looked at was travel.
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- Mr. McDon, sorry to interrupt,
-
but we have a little bit
of a problem up here,
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maybe more than a little bit.
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So we're just gonna take about
a five or 10 minute break.
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Just sort it out.
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- Okay?
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- Yeah, yeah. Okay. Mr McDonough.
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- Okay, Mr. Moderator. Mr.
- Mc, welcome back.
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- Some of the issues that
we looked at in terms
-
of design considerations in the
master plan, as I mentioned,
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public travel wanted to limit
public travel to the areas
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where they would come into
the municipal way complex
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and do business and not have
to enter into the yard area
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where there's large trucks.
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Dangerous situation. We
wanted to maximize circulation
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of the DPW vehicles around the
site, around the salt shed,
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around the fueling depot.
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So this was the preferred concept.
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This is, I know many
-
of you have heard about the a hundred
-
million dollars project.
-
Okay, so let me just
address that right now.
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That was a very early concept number.
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That was the full all in build out
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that you're looking at here.
-
Again, very preliminary
-
and it does not mean
-
that it's a hundred
million dollar project.
-
And part of the reason why we're
doing the feasibility study
-
hopefully, is to answer
questions like that.
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Like how can we do this
in manageable bites
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that the town can afford?
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I mean we're very tuned into that.
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We've heard all the discussion
-
with the town wide capital plan
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and the impacts the taxpayer rates.
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So we know that is an issue
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and we're very aware of
the cost of the project.
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So this pro, this plan you're
looking at on you, just
-
to kind of orient you on your left,
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on the left side is the MBTA
tracks and some wetlands.
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On the right side is the aqueduct
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and that's route nine to the north.
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That gray building, I dunno if you can see
-
it, that's the salt shed.
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And just north of that is the bulk storage
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area adjacent to Woodlawn.
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Now south of that red area
-
to the extreme south is the MLP facility
-
and then fire headquarters.
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So what that red line indicates
is all of the new buildings
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that would be part of the
proposed feasibility study.
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Starting on the right hand side,
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there's a new vehicle maintenance
building, new workshops.
-
And then the yellow area is
new administration buildings.
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From the DPW standpoint,
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these are the highest priority spaces.
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This is where most of the people are.
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So if you had to ask them to, you know,
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what is the most urgent work to get done?
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That would be it important,
-
but not as high priority as
the vehicle storage area.
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On the left hand side,
the, the late brown areas,
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this vehicle storage
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and then the new wash
bay is there as well.
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So part of what the feasibility
study would do is to
-
look at the build upon this
initial master plan concept
-
and look at things like can
we phase this in two phases
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or leave part of the
existing building there?
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But what's important here is,
-
you may recall from the
previous aerial slides,
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we had about 44,000 square
feet of existing building.
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And you can see here there's about 89,000.
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So it's double the area.
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So there's been discussion
about municipal offices.
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So right now facilities
management and then land use.
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And land use is the
building department zoning,
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NRC and planning.
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We are all located at
8 88 Worcester Street.
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We're in leased office space.
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That lease will end in June, 2027
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and we'll have to go back out
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for a three to five year lease.
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We expect it to be much higher
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because the landlord we're
currently renting from,
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we frankly got a really good rate
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and we've done some initial discussions
-
with developers in the area
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and we expect those rates to go up.
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So that's not good news.
But as part of this project,
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we will look at lease
costs, we'll get the current
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expected lease costs and
we'll look at the cost
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to build space as part of this project.
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I will say this, this is a
small part of the project,
-
the municipal, it's maybe 10%
of, of the new building area.
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But it's an opportunity,
it's an opportunity
-
to find a permanent space for land use
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and FMD one of many opportunities.
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Some of the other options we'll
continue to look at will be
-
lease on a long-term basis.
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We've been at 88 Worcester
Street, FMD for 11 years now.
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We'll look at potentially
if one becomes available,
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purchasing an existing
building and renovating it.
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A new standalone building.
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We actually looked at
a standalone building
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for FMD in 2014 on the
same municipal way site.
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And then we could look at it as part
-
of this or some other project.
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So why would we do this?
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I think it improves
services to the residents.
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It's kind of one stop shopping.
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You have the municipal complex there.
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It avoids continued risk associated
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with increase in lease
costs, like we expect
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to see in our next lease.
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There's a chance that we
can't find suitable space.
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We can't find, you know, eight
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to 10,000 square feet of contiguous space.
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And then it's to, to lease space.
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It's a, it's a public procurement process
-
and advertising sealed proposals
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and you have to do it
every three to five years.
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So we could avoid that
with permanent space
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and it would be nice for the
staff working in those offices
-
to have a permanent home.
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So here's, here's one
idea that we would pursue.
-
Again, in the feasibility
study, you can see the current
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engineering and management office
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with the red circle around it.
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I mean, one of the ideas
would be to renovate that
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and make that the new FMD land use space
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and then move engineering
-
and management into the yellow
building adjacent to it.
-
Again, just one idea
-
that we'd pursue more in
the feasibility study.
-
So this is the question
that comes up all the time.
-
You know, should we proceed?
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This is the question that
the town White Capital
-
Planning Committee is
gonna ask, and I think this
-
feasibility studies help
answers that question.
-
So what's really important is
-
that it's comprehensive
assessment before we start design.
-
Everything costs more from master plan
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to feasibility design construction.
-
As you move through the project,
-
everything is more expensive.
-
So this feasibility
study will assess whether
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the project is technically
achievable, financially viable,
-
environmentally responsible,
legally compliant
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before any major investments are made.
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And it's about reducing risk.
-
And I'm gonna talk about
that in a, in a little bit.
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So I can't stress enough
why it's important
-
to do a feasibility study.
-
I mentioned earlier,
you can't just jump from
-
master plan to design.
-
Feasibility is a very small
fraction of the total project.
-
Cost design is still much more than
-
feasibility, but a fraction
of the construction cost.
-
So investing one to 2%
-
of the total project cost
in a feasibility study
-
safeguards the remaining
98 to 98 9% of the project.
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Another question we've
heard a number of times is,
-
what happens if the project gets delayed?
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Will the feasibility study go stale?
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And the answer to that is no.
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It's, it's at least five
years, maybe longer.
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We may have to do some supplemental
upgrades investigations
-
as part of the study,
which I'll talk about.
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But no,
-
we don't expect it'll go stale
within a reasonable five year
-
period or longer.
-
So good, I'm glad you could see this.
-
So there's a lot here in this slide
-
and this, this to me tells,
-
tells you why feasibility
in planning is so important.
-
So going across left to
right, that's the duration
-
of a project, right from the first column.
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It says conceptual planning
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and that includes master
plans, feasibility studies.
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As you move to the right, you
get into schematic design,
-
design development, you
move a little further.
-
Final design, detailed plans
-
and specs, then you get
into bidding construction,
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cost closeout.
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So let's look at the
cost influence, that's
-
that yellow line, the cost influence.
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You have the highest
ability to impact the cost
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in the conceptual planning phase.
-
And as the project goes along
-
and as you're developing the
design and detailed plans
-
and specs and spending a
lot of money, you have less
-
and less ability to influence that cost.
-
Let's look at the orange
line, the construction cost.
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You can make a lot of
decisions and feasibility
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and master planning
phases at the early start
-
with almost no cost impact.
-
That's why it's so low.
But as you progress
-
through the design,
you're, you're kind of,
-
you're spending a lot of
money on plans and specs
-
and you have a schedule to meet.
-
So your ability to impact
the cost is, is limited.
-
So just kind of keep that
in mind where we are now,
-
we're in the conceptual planning phases,
-
just completed the master
plan heading towards
-
the feasibility study.
-
So the scope, one
-
of the first things we
wanna do is we wanna look at
-
that concept that I
showed you from the master
-
plan and work on that.
-
We want to confirm the
program working with DPW.
-
We wanna prioritize, is
this the scope of work
-
that they need and funding.
-
We're gonna look at
funding, available funding.
-
We're gonna be working,
you know, hand in glove
-
with the town wide Capital
Planning Committee,
-
the future phasing of the project.
-
That's something that wasn't really
-
looked at in detail at master plan,
-
but we will look at in
detail at feasibility.
-
So here's an example of when
I say we're gonna look at
-
what was developed in the master plan.
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These are kind of the
big picture issues that
-
I think we're gonna need to look at.
-
So looking at the vehicle
maintenance, the workshop
-
and the admin building on
the right side of the site,
-
those are the high
priority spaces for DPW.
-
And then, you know, the
vehicle storage on the left.
-
So one of the first things
we're gonna need to do is,
-
is there a way to build
that in a phased manner
-
where we can build the
high priority spaces now
-
and work with what's
there work, maybe work
-
with the existing garage
before we have to replace it.
-
The surface parking. That's
something that we, we need
-
to dig a little deeper into.
-
There's been discussion of whether
-
or not we need a parking garage.
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We don't know. We hope we don't,
-
but that's part of why we
do a feasibility study.
-
And then I talked about the opportunity
-
for land use and MLP.
-
I'm showing here that the
existing space would be
-
renovated, that's one option.
-
Or it could be a another floor added
-
to the new building to accommodate it.
-
But again, these are feasibility
-
decisions, things that we look into.
-
So probably two thirds of the cost
-
of this $858,000 appropriation has to do
-
with these expensive field investigations.
-
Things like geotech, borings,
environmental borings,
-
traffic studies, surveys.
-
So it's really important that
we're very strategic about
-
how we spend that money in the study.
-
So here's an example of what I would call
-
targeted cost effective
field investigations.
-
So once we develop that
first layout, that site plan,
-
that building layout, then we
have a pretty high confidence
-
level of where we want to.
-
For example, I'm showing
these red areas soil borings.
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So we don't wanna just go in
-
and pepper the site with, you know,
-
30 borings across the entire site at a
-
a pretty expensive cost.
-
We want to be able to
reliably locate what we need
-
and no more for this level.
-
The lower level, I
talked about the activity
-
and use limitation.
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This is an environmental restriction.
-
So it's important that
we know where that is
-
because that impacts what
we do in terms of planning.
-
We certainly would want to avoid
-
a garage structure in that area.
-
So continuing on, these
are the kind of the big
-
tasks in the work order,
in the feasibility study.
-
Talked about the concept design.
-
We're gonna look at
phasing sustainability.
-
We always look at sustainability
in any major project.
-
We will develop a potential
scope of work, cost schedule,
-
feasibility study.
-
All of this is what the PBC expects
-
to get when the project
goes to them for design.
-
So we know what they
expect to receive from us.
-
So these are important
tasks for the the group
-
current project schedule.
-
Here we are tonight requesting
feasibility study funds.
-
If approved, we will begin
the procurement process.
-
So this is not a low bid when you hire
-
professional services architects.
-
It's a qualifications based
process. We've done it.
-
I can't tell you how many times
-
where we ask for submissions.
-
We shortlist architects,
we interview them.
-
I expect to have a pretty
robust evaluation committee.
-
Ultimately we'd be making a recommendation
-
to the Board of public Works.
-
The architect who did the
master plan would certainly be
-
encouraged and I would
-
expect they would be submitting on it.
-
But this by no means is this
project handed to anyone.
-
We, we are optimistically
hoping we can finish
-
this study in a year.
-
Maybe too optimistically it
-
so we could be back here in the year
-
requesting design funds.
-
It's also quite possible
that it could slip
-
to the fall 2027.
-
But again, assuming we
optimistically hit all those
-
milestones, two years
later we could be back
-
for construction fund request.
-
And we also expect that
would be a debt exclusion.
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So there'd be a ballot vote.
-
So this is the breakdown
-
for the $858,000 appropriation request.
-
A couple of things to keep in
mind. We negotiate these fees.
-
So I'm a professional engineer.
-
We have three licensed
architects on staff.
-
We probably have 200 years of experience
-
and believe me, we know how
-
to negotiate fees with consultants.
-
So the $380,000,
-
that's the professional
services part of the project.
-
So we'll certainly negotiate that down to
-
what we think is a reasonable amount.
-
The remaining roughly
$500,000 is in the expenses.
-
And as I showed you in
the previous slides,
-
we will not just start doing that.
-
The, the plan is to do
the initial concept,
-
then we can selectively determine which
-
of these various tasks we need to do.
-
Some. We know we have to,
but some we could hold on.
-
For example, you know, the
parking garage consultant.
-
If we decide that we
don't need to do that,
-
we could hold off on that.
-
So we would execute
the work of these dozen
-
or so items on a, on a
work order basis, right?
-
We negotiate a, a kind of
a mini contract to each one
-
of these and this is how we
would control the contract.
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And with that Mr. Moderator, I'm through.
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- All right, thank you Mr. McDonough.
-
Now Mr. Riley will give
us the recommendation.
-
We, the advisory committee
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- Madison Riley, Mr. Moderator
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- Mr. Riley,
- Regarding Article 20, most
-
of advisory committee
supports the DPW campus
-
feasibility study.
-
Those in support agree
that some DPW facilities,
-
particularly at the 78-year-old parks
-
and highway building, no,
-
it no longer meets
operational requirements.
-
And they see this study as a way
-
to determine if certain other
town departments could be
-
housed at municipal way.
-
Some supporters also feel
-
that such a study is
critical given the size
-
of the campus we're dealing
with multi-facility undertaking
-
and the complexity of
decisions to be made.
-
For example, departments
housed building placements,
-
swing space needs, staging,
timing, environmental impacts,
-
A lot of decisions to juggle
and, and determine opinions.
-
Varied though on the timing of this study,
-
some wondered whether
this should begin now just
-
as the town is forming the
New Town Wide Capital Planning
-
Committee, the acronym
T-W-C-P-C, long acronym.
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Others supported the timing,
others supported the timing,
-
noting that the study,
-
this study would provide valuable input
-
to the TW CPCs considerations.
-
So it'd be very important
and help that group.
-
Those who opposed the study
expressed sticker shock at both
-
the forecasted cost of
construction and the study's cost.
-
Given the number of capital
projects that the town faces
-
in the next decade, which
will impact our taxes.
-
Opponents wondered if it
would be prudent to wait
-
until the T-W-C-P-C commit group is formed
-
and able to fully analyze
the capital project needs
-
before proceeding with
this feasibility study.
-
They also feared that once conducted,
-
and if no action is
taken for several years,
-
the study may become stale,
-
potentially wasting
significant time and money.
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But overall advisory recommends
favorable action. 10 to two.
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- Okay. The floor is now open
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for debate on the motion under 20.
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It is nine,
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let's call it nine
forty five. Mr. Welburn,
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- Peter Welburn, precinct C. Mr.
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- Welburn,
- Could you put the slide up
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that says municipal way at the bottom
-
and it has the picture of
the site quickly please.
-
So when I saw this article,
-
I got sticker shock
probably like many of you.
-
So I called Mr. Cohen
-
and I asked him if he would
gimme a tour of the facility.
-
He was kind enough to do
that a little over a week ago
-
and it'd be helpful to have the
-
picture up if you can get it up there.
-
So I spent about 30 minutes there walking
-
through the site to take a look.
-
And I will tell you something,
-
when you look at these pictures
here, they do not do justice
-
to how bad it is.
-
It is horrendous.
-
I thought about the vocabulary
words I was gonna use
-
to describe this facility.
-
They're not appropriate
for town meeting floor,
-
so I won't use those up on
the left hand corner there.
-
Those buildings that are sort
-
of a white color in the upper
corner, those aren't too bad.
-
But this whole L area at the top is just,
-
I can't even believe our town
employees were asking them
-
to work out of this facility.
-
And these are workers
that put a lot of effort
-
and energy into the town,
especially during snow storms.
-
They're working sometimes
really, really long hours.
-
I can't believe that we
asked them to work there.
-
I also think this cold storage shed area
-
that has tremendous potential,
-
I think this whole site
could really transform some
-
of the office space for the
town employees who the backbone
-
of the services that are provided here.
-
So I think we should go ahead with this.
-
I'm speaking in favor and
I'll close by saying this.
-
I have a thesis and a theory for why
-
Mr. Berger saw mice here in the town hall.
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It's because they left
the municipal way campus.
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It was so bad the mice left
and now they're living here.
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That's how bad this facility is.
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So I speak here in favor of,
of this proposal for Mr. Cohen,
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and I think you two gentlemen
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who presented tonight were
very kind in your words.
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It's really horrible. Thank you.
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Yes, Mr. Lucky, selecti,
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- Tam, Tamara Salaki, precinct G.
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That's actually very similar
to what I was going to say.
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Initial sticker shock.
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I had the privilege
last year of being able
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to visit the site and I
had the same reaction.
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Much of my concern has
to do with the, the lack
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of protection for a lot of the equipment
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that we're paying a lot of money for.
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So, so I, I think that
there's, there's a fair amount
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of return on investment that we get
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by really protecting
a lot of the equipment
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that currently is just exposed
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because there's just no place to house it.
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I think also some of that
equipment is very different
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now than when it was built.
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There are more electric vehicles,
electric sort of machines
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that, that we're using, whether it's
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lawn mowing or whatever.
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We don't really have
facilities for those sort
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of targeted facilities.
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So I do think that this
is an important project
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and one that gives us a, a
return on investment essentially.
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We have relatively few people
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that work for these departments.
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We're really dependent on that equipment.
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I think with respect to this
sticker shock, something
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that really, really grates
on me is sort of hearkening
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to something that, that the select
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board said at the beginning.
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We have a lot of big projects
that are coming down the board
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and we're looking at 30.
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I think that's a low estimate.
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I think we're potentially
looking at 50% increases
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in, in taxes.
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And I'm really scared about that.
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I'm scared about what
that does to our town,
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the demographics of the
town, who's, who's able
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to move here, who's able to stay here.
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I think it's really gonna
be problematic for the town.
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And I think that we,
we are all responsible
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for figuring out what makes sense.
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And I think that as we
look at, you know, we've,
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we've got the PFAS project,
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which we're finding there's
not a lot of flexibility there.
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There's legislative issues there.
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We've got the municipal complex,
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which we're discussing right now,
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and we've got a lot of school
projects, the school AC
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that's come up, the pause program, a lot
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of school renovations.
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I think as we look at things like some
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of those school projects, I
think of schools as something
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that, that is very important to recognize.
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The people there, it's the
teachers, it's the curriculum
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that gives us the education
that we need for the town here.
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It's the building that we really need.
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So I'm in support of this. Thank you
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- Mr. Berger.
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Oh, okay. Ms. Sanchez. Thank you
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- Ladies first.
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Odessa Sanchez precinct Moderat.
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- Ms. Sanchez,
- I just wanted to ask DPW
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to kind of give us an idea
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or remind us how many other
towns also take advantage
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or utilize the facilities
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and if there was any
discussions about any shared
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financing for this project?
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- You're asking how towns use.
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- Yeah, how many other
neighboring towns also utilize the
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resources of the DPW
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and if you spoke to them
about sharing the cost.
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- Okay. Is there any shared
cost of this facility
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with others who may use the facility?
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- Dave Cohen, DPW Director, Mr. Mr. Cohen.
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So there, we have not really
explored any opportunities
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to have other communities
contribute to the cost
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of our facility,
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but our facility does get
used from time to time for,
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for other communities
that might be partnering
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with us on some training that we're doing.
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We can certainly explore
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with them if there's opportunities there.
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But I think it's more of a quid pro quo
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where they would host a training
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and then we would host a training.
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It really isn't something
that we've, we've explored
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to this point, but we'll
add it to the list.
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- Okay. Mr. Himmel,
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- David Hemel, precinct H Mr. Mr. Hemel
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- Berger.
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- Yep. I too rise in support.
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I also confess to having
that initial sticker shock
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things cost money.
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One thing that, or one way
that I look at this is similar
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to the high school in
which we sit right now.
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Our old high school had
been built at one point
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and we added onto it and we added onto it
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and we added onto it.
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And when we designed this building, we
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had a coherent plan for
how all the departments
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and all the portions of the
school would fit together.
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And we got a very coherent building.
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I think we have the same
opportunity down at the DPW campus
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to build a coherent facility
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that takes into account not just the uses
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that are down there now,
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but also the so-called land
departments within the town.
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And I would ask through you, Mr.
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Moderator, if we could be advised
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what we're currently spending each year
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in rent at 8 88 Worcester
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for the land use departments.
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Because that rent that
we're spending each year
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would be money that would be
diverted to paying for this
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campus down the road.
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So I'm in support of it.
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But curious to know what
we're spending right now
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for renting space.
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- Do you know that amount, Mr. McDonough,
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- Mr.
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Marty, Eddie Joe McDonough?
Yes. Mr. McDonough?
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Pretty close. I would say
between the two offices
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that we're renting Suite one 60
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and Suite three 70,
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it's $226,000 a year I believe.
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And I would expect that to
almost double in the next lease.
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Okay. Thank you.
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- Mr. Mary,
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- Mr.
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Moderator, Paul, Mary Precinct, G Mr.
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- Mr.
- Mary through you.
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A question to either Mr. Cohen or Mr.
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McDonough. I'm reacting partly
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to the comments of a good many people,
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including Mr. Berger about the
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sticker shock of this project.
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And when I think about this, I mean in,
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in a way it's a dream, a chance for the
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employees that use this
site to, to conceive
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what they think would be the
ideal situation for themselves.
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But it seems to me that the
people with the best knowledge
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of what's needed here or,
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or what would be the ideal situation,
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are probably the managers
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and workers that are already working there
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and have had to put up
with these bad conditions
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for many years.
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And I don't, I'm, I'm not rising
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to say that we shouldn't do this.
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I'm just saying in terms of
addressing the sticker shock,
-
my question is whether
there's any possibility that
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maybe the town planning department could,
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and I think we have one,
could undertake this in-house
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by doing a survey of the
managers and the employees
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and other people who are very,
very familiar with the, both,
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with the, the arrangements
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that are now in place in this campus
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and also the situa the, the
conditions that would be ideal
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for them rather than,
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and I'm wondering if maybe
undertaking at least some of
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that work in house might be able to
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be a way of, of reducing
the sticker shock.
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- Yep. Who are you referring
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to when you talk about the
town planning department?
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- Do we not have a planning department?
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- Okay. Ms. Chop will
answer that question.
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- Megan Jo, executive director.
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- Ms. Job. - So the planning
staff could certainly assist
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in terms of the zoning analysis.
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We do have a design and construction team,
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which operates out of the
facilities department,
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but largely some of it we could
potentially do in, in-house.
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But given the workload that
this body has approved,
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we wouldn't have the
bandwidth to execute that.
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- Thank you.
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- Mr. Moderat. Christine
Cahill, precinct D
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- Yes ma'am.
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- A, a couple, a couple things.
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First I wanna just make sure it's clear.
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When we're voting on this
appropriation, are we looking at
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appropriating just for a new facility
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or are we also looking at
possible, possibly renovating?
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Just clarification on that
when we, if we vote for this.
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- Mr. McDonough,
- Joe
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McDonough Facility director.
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- Yes, Mr. McDonough.
- I think we would primarily be
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looking at new buildings,
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but you know, for example, if
we, as part of the phasing,
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if we decided to leave that
existing L-shaped building there
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for some period of time,
five years, seven years,
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we could probably do some
sort of modification to
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that building to allow it to
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be pretty much dedicated
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to vehicle storage as, as an example.
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So I think the scope is, is
at this point it's wide open.
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We're not kind of saying
we're only gonna look at new,
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but I would say the renovation
would be part of a phased,
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a temporary phased option.
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But I don't, I don't, I think
we pretty much have come
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to the conclusion that long term
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that 78-year-old building is not worth.
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Okay. Renovating
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- My, another question, Mr.
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Moderator and I, this might be more to
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through the select board
when everybody's, you know,
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saying about the sticker shock
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and that we're looking
at possibly up to 34%
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increase in taxes in the next few years
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with multiple capital projects.
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Historically, have we tried
to limit as a town the percent
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of increase of taxes when
we look at our capital
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projects going forward?
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And I know we have a new
committee that hasn't come online
-
yet, but that's just a question overall,
-
not just on this project,
but just looking forward,
-
do we think about that
and have kind of a number
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or, you know, some kind of
range that the select board
-
and the town has looked
at when we know we have
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so many things ahead of us?
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- Okay. I think Ms.
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Job is probably in the best
-
position to answer that question.
-
BA basically, to
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what extent are we looking at
the impact on, on the tax rate
-
of this project and others like it?
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- Sure. So Megan, job
executive director, Ms.
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- Job. - So each year we do
the, the five year capital plan
-
and inevitably we're also
looking out further than that.
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However, we haven't had
this type of aggregation
-
of large projects
historically in recent time,
-
even within really the last
probably 40 to 50 years.
-
And so that's why we're
taking a strategic approach
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and looking with the town,
my capital planning committee
-
to evaluate what we can do.
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And so it is very clear that
-
although taxes are gonna rise
at arguably 4%, between four
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and four point half percent
each year based upon new growth
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and two and a half percent taxation,
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this would be additive to
that through debt exclusion.
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And there's, there's certainly
going to be likely a limit to
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what the voters will pass in
terms of what they can absorb.
-
So that's something that is
very much on the forefront of
-
our minds and in the
town wide financial plan.
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And so we've tried to explicitly identify
-
what those costs are for
people moving forward.
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We also sent a letter out to
every residential property
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to direct people to review
the town wide financial plan
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and to alert them to
these upcoming projects so
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that you can start following them now
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because we certainly anticipate
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that without proper planning
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or modification in that schedule
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that they might not all passed.
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- Okay. Thank you Mr.
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Marty, if you don't mind, I
just have one comment based
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- Sure.
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Go. Go ahead Ms. Keel.
-
- I just wanted to
actually say I appreciated
-
the comment about thinking
about the neighbors in
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Woodlawn af 'cause I'm
in that neighborhood
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and if you continue to include
-
that in this feasibility study,
-
the neighborhood appreciates
it, so thank you.
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- Okay, Mr. Tobin,
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- Michael Tobin, precinct
Chief, Mr. Moderator. Mr.
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- Tobin, - The question
here is when do we start the
-
feasibility study?
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Do we start it now this year
-
and do we kick it down
the road one or two years
-
or sometime into the future?
-
And I do have some hope that
with the Town Wide Capital
-
Planning Committee,
with all of the projects
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that are gonna be in front of us,
-
we'd have a slightly better view of
-
this priority versus others
-
and the shaping of this
project when it does come.
-
So for me, this is a,
let's look at this in one
-
or two years, not now.
-
- So Mr. McDonough, what,
what is the plan for
-
assuming this passes when the feasibility
-
study would get underway?
-
- Joe McDonough Director
- Mr. McDonough,
-
- I think we should start at July 1st.
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That's the schedule. We're
looking to start the process
-
to hire an architect tomorrow
if this gets approved.
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And the reason being, the reason
why I showed those slides,
-
we, we have a plan
-
and the plan would be
that first task to kind
-
of further expand the concept,
-
the preferred concept
from the master plan and,
-
and look at a couple of different options.
-
And that's information that
-
before we spend a lot of
money on the, on, you know,
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the $500,000 worth of field work.
-
Some of it we know we have to do,
-
but we'll have probably within
-
six months we'll have
really good information
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for the Tom White Capital Plan committee.
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So that's why I wouldn't delay this.
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I think we, we get right out there.
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Well, and you know, if we
pause at that point, if,
-
again thinking about, at least in my mind,
-
what the Tom White Capital
Planning Committee is gonna be
-
doing is they're gonna be
looking at these major projects
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and looking at the financing implications
-
and deciding what they can
afford when it should be done
-
based on how it meets the criteria.
-
So, you know, there's four
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or five big kind of brick projects
-
that we know are out there,
where do they get slotted?
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So I think we really need
-
to have this feasibility
study information in order
-
to be able to figure out how
do we best slot the DPW project
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with some of the other projects.
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- Yes, sir. Mr. Moderator Ethan Davis,
-
precinct D Yes. Mr. Davis.
-
- Mr. Moderator a clear kind
of a clarifying question.
-
I mean, I, looking at this
timeline, it's, you know,
-
we've heard of this talk
about phasing and the project
-
and I just wanna make sure
that, is that something that
-
as we vote for feasibility, the consultant
-
that is performing the feasibility study,
-
are they gonna come back
with different phased options
-
for this project so we could
-
conceivably spread the cost along a
-
longer timeline than this?
-
I mean, I see a debt exclusion
ballot vote of spring 2029.
-
I mean, that's gonna be a $90 million vote
-
or a hundred million dollar vote,
-
but is that something
that's being considered?
-
Is that something that's
gonna be talked about
-
with the Capital Planning
Committee anyways?
-
I just want some more
clarification on what we mean
-
by phasing and funding.
-
Thank you.
-
- Okay, so clarification on
what you mean by the phasing
-
and funding and whether what options
-
and alternatives will be considered.
-
- So there's construction phasing
-
and there's kind of building
program phasing, you know,
-
construction phasing is,
you need to move people out
-
of a building temporarily
so you can renovate it.
-
The phasing that I'm referring
to in the plan here is to,
-
for example, build those new
buildings on the right hand
-
side of the site for X
number of million dollars.
-
Right? That's, that's phase
one of the, of the project
-
as part of that phase one
-
or phase one A, if you want,
we could do minor renovation
-
to the existing building to allow it
-
to be used for vehicle storage.
-
Phase two or phase three,
whatever you wanna call it.
-
It could be demolishing
-
that existing vehicle storage building
-
and replacing it with a new building.
-
So those are the exact type
of scenarios we wanna look at.
-
We're gonna have a much more
detailed scope of services than
-
what I'm showing up here,
-
but typically it would be
looking at at least three
-
preferred options with and
without land use and FMD
-
and to develop costs for each of those,
-
- I guess Ms. Squiggley,
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- Patty Quigley, precinct, d Ms.
-
- Quigley,
- I'm not sure
-
who would a answer this
question, but through you, Mr.
-
Moderator talking about phasing,
-
but more on the dollar amount in the
-
borrowing, I'm guessing that we would
-
go to debt exclusion with the
total amount of the project so
-
that we have the whole
project approved by the town
-
or disapproved by the town.
-
And then is it possible
-
as a town, do we get taxed
on the money as we borrow it
-
or do we get taxed on the
money as we approve it?
-
- I think Ms job in,
-
in the best position to
answer that question.
-
So when the tax impact would be felt?
-
- So typically from a
borrowing standpoint,
-
we actually do it in two
phases, whether we do
-
inside the levee for the
design schematic design prior
-
to construction costs.
-
So I think in this scenario
we're estimating about
-
10 million or so in design costs.
-
If we did the entire
project all at one time,
-
that ultimately that
inside the levee borrowing
-
or through debt exclusion,
the board would have to vote.
-
Currently in the town wide
financial plan, we have 'em both
-
as debt exclusions given
the significant costs.
-
So we actually borrow about a year
-
after it's approved just
in terms of our, our cycle.
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And it is, we we're not taxed on that.
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We don't have a taxable
component. They're tax exempt.
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But you mean the interest,
-
is that what you mean? Yeah, I might
-
- Not have used the right
terminology, so sorry.
-
Yep. But I guess from, from the
-
resident standpoint, yeah, yeah, yeah.
-
- I'm with you now. Okay.
-
So typically once you borrow,
so anything approved here
-
that we were gonna borrow,
-
which we have some borrowing
items coming up for
-
water sewer for instance, but,
-
but if we had a borrowing,
we borrow the subsequent year
-
and then that would hit your
taxes in the next tax rate.
-
So if we approve something
at the special town meeting,
-
your tax rate's gonna be
set actually in December,
-
it's closer, and then it would
hit your taxes in January.
-
If it's, if we approve something
at annual town meeting,
-
it's really not to that like next May
-
that we would do the actual borrowing.
-
So it hit you like that
December, it's just
-
- When you borrow,
- What's that?
-
Sorry. Yeah, it's when you borrow. Yeah.
-
- Yeah, go ahead.
-
- Oh, I think this is
a little high for me.
-
Hi Gwen Baker, precinct day.
-
I just have a comment
about all of this spending
-
and people are talking about it
-
and raising different issues.
-
All these projects are, this is great.
-
I mean, I appreciate what the
gentleman shared about the
-
appalling condition of
the buildings and so on.
-
But you know, I've spent most of my career
-
as a personal financial
planner, I've dealt
-
with people's budgets and money.
-
People have to make choices,
they have to have priorities
-
and they have to make decisions
whether you borrow money
-
as an individual, a
business, or as a community.
-
And so I just would like
to encourage people,
-
if they're gonna have
a a, a town wide plan,
-
maybe you wanna wait
-
and sort of see where
everybody feels about
-
these various projects, you know,
-
because raising taxes
sounds great in theory,
-
but in practice it drives
people out of communities.
-
I mean, that's what's going on all over.
-
And this has been written
about extensively.
-
I don't have to even add to it.
-
You know, they don't talk about
Wellesley specifically when
-
they talk about Boston, but
they do talk about the state.
-
And so you, you wanna get to
the place where you don't have,
-
you know, where people can,
-
you could have a diverse community
-
and if it becomes prohibitively
expensive, taxes, expenses,
-
housing, you don't have
a diverse community.
-
You have a bunch of
rich people ultimately.
-
So I just wanted to share that thought.
-
Maybe wait for the capital
plan or whatever. Thank you.
-
- Okay, thank you Mr. Jones.
-
- Pete Jones, precinct B Mr. Monte.
-
- Mr. Jones.
- Yeah,
-
this is a huge expenditure
larger than I figured on reading
-
through the, the manuals of it.
-
I think we ought to do this
in a, a smaller way, half of
-
that, at least in my, my
thought content on that.
-
But you know, we tend nowadays
to go to debt exclusions.
-
Think of it this way.
-
If you were born in 1965
-
or earlier,
-
a debt exclusion would actually be an
-
override for the rest of your life.
-
I don't think we think of it that way.
-
We're looking at a 33% when
all this stuff is done.
-
We're looking at a 33% increase is
-
the figure that we've been given.
-
But again, if you look at about 28 to 30%
-
of the population in Wellesley
falls within that category,
-
a dead exclusion is not a safety net maybe
-
for some young people,
but from age, you know,
-
when you were born in 1965
-
or sooner, that dead
exclusion is an override.
-
My comment,
-
- Mr.
-
Criswell,
-
- Mr.
-
Moderator, Paul Criswell
precinct date, Mr.
-
Criswell, I rise in support of this motion
-
and I do so for two reasons.
-
Number one, I would ask everybody
-
to consider the leverage aspect of this.
-
These are the people that take care
-
of our infrastructure
in town, their ability
-
to do their job better
-
and to do it more efficiently
will save us money
-
everywhere in the town.
-
Every one of our roads, every
bit of, of our sewage systems,
-
of our water systems,
our our parks, the things
-
that we enjoy and those costs
-
and those cost savings will
also flow down to each of us in,
-
in, in our costs of
operating our own households.
-
The opposite is also true.
-
To the extent that we don't
do that well, it's going
-
to raise our costs of
fixing things down the road
-
and it's going to raise costs
for all of us in the operation
-
of, of our household.
-
So I think that this is an investment
-
more than it is purely a cost.
-
Second of all, as I look at
all of the projects that are,
-
that are coming down the
road now, this is the one
-
that in my mind is the hardest one to,
-
to get our arms around.
-
This isn't the renovation
or rebuilding of a building.
-
This is a campus with numerous buildings,
-
new numerous functions,
numerous options as to how
-
that can go.
-
I believe it will be very
helpful, maybe necessary for us
-
as we do town wide capital
planning to understand all
-
of the different options of this.
-
Because otherwise we
would just be speculating.
-
It will be much, we will do
much better planning if we
-
understand what our options
are in an accurate way
-
with regard to the, to this campus.
-
Thank you
-
- Mr.
-
Moderator. Kelly Norris precinct. Yes,
-
- Ms.
-
Ms. Norris, ours,
-
- Obviously a number of
people have touched on
-
the importance that we've heard
about the Capital Planning
-
Committee and its job to evaluate
the best timeline in order
-
for major capital projects.
-
And we also regularly
talk, hear about the hope
-
for studies to be done once
-
and avoid doing them too far
in advance of the right time
-
for the design and construction
-
to move forward on these projects.
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And, and we end up, I
feel like we end up paying
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for studies more than once,
more often than many seem
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to seem to like.
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I, I understand the need for this study
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and I certainly wanna take
care of the people who, who,
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who do this good work.
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But, but my question is,
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and my concern is if we aren't
using the Capital Planning
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Committee to advise on the
timing of initiating a study
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that could lead to a
project with a magnitude
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of a hundred million dollars in addition
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to the great complexity of this project,
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it feels like it undercuts the purpose
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of having a capital planning committee.
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So my question is why shouldn't
we use the Capital Planning
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Committee to consider this study
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and come back to town meeting
with their recommendation
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for the study on the best timeline
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to move forward in relation to the rest
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of all these capital projects coming.
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- So question is why not
wait until the capital,
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the Capital Studies Committee is formed
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and then let them make
the determination and Ms.
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O Frank will answer that question.
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- Colette, our Frank Precinct team select
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- Yes, Ms.
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- I think as Joe has touched on and,
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and certainly we've
touched on a little bit
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before, the Town Wide
Capital Planning Committee,
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in my opinion, needs the results
of this phase of the work.
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In order to do its job of
planning, we're gonna have
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to ask some really difficult questions.
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What's the priority? What are
the operational alternatives?
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Could we do a smaller capital project?
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Could we delay the capital project?
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What is Plan B if this
does not go through?
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Those are five critical
questions we're gonna have
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to ask on every single
project at the moment.
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Without the results of this work,
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we cannot answer those questions.
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I think it is critically inhibiting
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to the town-wide Capital
Planning Committee's work
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to not have this work go forward.
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- Mr. Moderator Kelly
Norris precinct? Yes,
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- Ms. Norris,
- Just a follow up.
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Does this mean that the Capital
Planning Committee won't be
-
considering any studies and
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that all studies should move
forward directly from their
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proponents before the
Capital Planning Committee
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gets involved with projects?
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- Okay, Ms. O Frank, does
this mean that the Capital
-
Planning Committee will
only deal with projects
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after the studies have been completed?
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The feasibility studies,
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- I think the proponent
will bring forward a project
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proposal form at each phase.
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So if it's master planning,
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they'll bring forward a
proposal form at that stage.
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If it's the next stage.
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Feasibility design construction,
for example at each stage,
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the time by Capital Planning
Committee would need
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to consider the proponents proposal.
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- Okay, I'm not seeing
anybody else rise to speak.
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Any non town meeting,
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town meeting member
residents wish to be heard.
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Okay, I think we are ready for the vote.
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This requires a simple majority
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and I think we're gonna do
this by electronic voting.
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Okay. The voting period is now open.
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One for yes, two for no,
three for abstention.
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10 seconds remain in the voting period.
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The voting period is now closed.
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Okay, we have a hundred and
142 votes in the affirmative.
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38. No one abstention.
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So the motion under Article 20 carries.
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So Article 20 is closed
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and the next three motions
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in the advisory book
have either been approved
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or by consent or no motions made.
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So we now turn to Article 24.
Motion one under Article 24.
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And I recognize Mr. Wexler for the motion.
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- Mr. Moderator Jeff
Wexler precinct H Chair
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of Board of Public Works.
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- Yes. Mr. Wexler,
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- I ask that you waive
the reading of the motion
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as it appears on the screen has
been previously distributed.
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- The reading of the motion is waived
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- And I ask that you
recognize Dave Cohen, director
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of Department of Public Works,
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- Mr. Cohen,
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- Dave Cohen, DPW Director, Mr. Moderator.
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- Mr. Cohen
- We're in Brookline.
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So Motion one seeks authorization
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for the sewer fund to borrow up
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to $1,643,250 from the Massachusetts Water
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Resources Authority MWRA.
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The borrowing would have
no tax impact to the town.
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The M WRA Sewer Infiltration
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and Inflow Local financial
assistance program is a
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combination of grants
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and interest free loans
for sewer rehab work.
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The loan is interest free
and repaid over 10 years.
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Actual borrowing takes
place in several stages
-
after work is completed.
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Funds from this loan will be used
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to continue our multi-year sewer
line rehabilitation program
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to reduce infiltration and
inflow into town sewer lines.
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The proposed borrowing qualifies the town
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for an additional
$1,209,750 in grant funding.
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Infiltration is water that
seeps into the sewer lines due
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to cracks or unsealed joints.
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Inflow is water that
enters the sewer lines
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through direct connections
such as illegal sump pumps.
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Infiltration and inflow
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or INI is a major contributor
to the town Sewage flow,
-
which is the basis for MWRA sewer charges.
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Town meeting has previously
approved over 4.7 million
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of borrowing under this program
that resulted in the receipt
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of over $5.6 million in
grants for this purpose.
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This proposed borrowing is based on work
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to be completed in FY 26 and beyond.
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This program continues
to be a great opportunity
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to make investments in
our sewer infrastructure
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and helps keep rates low.
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We ask for your favorable
action on motion one.
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- Mr. Riley
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- Madison Riley. Mr. Moderator
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- Mr. Riley,
- Regarding Article 24 motion one.
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Advisory believes the benefits
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of these MWRA loans is exceptional.
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Since their interest free
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and the improvements
they fund are important
-
for the long term health
of the town's sewer system,
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there's no tax impact
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as the loan will be repaid
from the sewer enterprise fund.
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An advisor recommends
favorable action 12 to zero.
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- Okay, the floor is
open for discussion on
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motion one under radical 24.
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Okay. Not seeing anybody wishing to speak.
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Let's try a voice vote on this.
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If this is unanimous,
then we don't have to go
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to an electronic vote on a two thirds.
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All in favor say aye. A. All opposed.
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Okay, I declare that that
passes by a unanimous voice Vote
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cl We close a motion one under Article 24.
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Move on to motion two under Article 24.
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And again, I recognize Mr.
Wexler to make the motion.
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Yes, Mr. Wexler
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- It keeps shocking.
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Mr. Moderator Jeff Wexler precinct H.
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- Yes. Mr. Wexler,
- I ask that you waive the reading
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of the motion as it appears on the screen
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has been previously distributed.
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- Reading of the motion is waived.
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- And I ask that you once again
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recognize Dave Cohen
director to talk about some
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very fortuitous opportunities. Yes.
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- Mr. Cohen.
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- Dave Cohen. DPW Director Mr. Moderator?
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- Yes. Mr. Cohen.
- Motion two seeks authorization
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for the water fund to borrow up
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to $500,000 interest free from the MWRA.
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The borrowing would have
no tax impact to the town.
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The MWRA pipeline local financial
assistance program offers
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loans for water distribution
system improvements.
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The loans are interest free
and repaid over 10 years.
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Actual borrowing takes
place in several stages
-
after work is completed.
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Funds for the for these loans will be used
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to continue our multi-year
water distribution systems.
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Improvements throughout town.
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Town meeting has supported use
of this funding since 2004.
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Having previous previously
approved over $7.3 million
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of borrowing under this program.
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This authorization to borrow
funds interest free is a great
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opportunity to make investments
in our water infrastructure
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and help keep rates low.
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We ask for your favorable
action on motion two.
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- Yes. Mr. Ri, Mr. Riley
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- Madison Riley. Mr. Moderator
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- Mr. Riley,
- In a similar vein
-
regarding Article 24, motion two.
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Pfizer believes the benefits
of the NWRA loans very high
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as our interest free and improvements.
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And they fund the, and they
fund important improvements
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that are benefit the long-term health
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of the town's water system.
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No tax impact and the
loan is repaid from the
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Water Enterprise Fund.
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We recommend favorable action 12 to zero.
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- Okay. Thank you Mr. Riley.
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So the floor is now open for
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debate on motion two under Article 24,
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does anybody wish to be heard?
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Are there any non town meeting
-
member residents who wish to be heard?
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Okay. Not seeing anybody who wishes
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to speak on the pending motion again,
-
let's try a voice vote.
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It's a two thirds vote
because it requires bonding.
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Let's see if we can get
the same type of vote with
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as we had in the previous motion.
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All in favor say aye. Aye. All opposed?
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Okay. The, the, the motion
two under Article 24
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passes unanimously by voice vote.
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So we close Article 24.
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Now it is now 25 after 10.
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This next article, which is
the last article on the agenda
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for tonight, 29.
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Maybe a little complicated to explain,
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but it hasn't generated any opposition
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or discussion to my knowledge.
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So I'm, I'm just gonna
ask for a show of hands
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if, if we can avoid leaving Mr. Cohen in
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Coolidge Corner overnight.
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I guess so how many are willing to stay?
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Just say not later than 11
o'clock to finish this one up.
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Okay. How many are not willing to stay?
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Okay, we are far more willing to stay.
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So let's move on to number 29. Mr. Wexler.
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- Oh,
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- Mr.
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Moderator. Steve Park precinct.
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G chair of the Natural
Resources Commission.
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- Yes. Yes sir.
- I'm not,
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- We need a town meeting member.
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- Oh, okay.
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- Okay. Mr.
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Moderator Jeff Wexler,
precinct eight works? Yes. Mr.
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- Wexler works.
- I ask that you waive the rating
-
of the motion as it appears on the screen.
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Yes. And was previously distributed.
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- The reading of the motion is waived
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- And I ask that you
recognize Mr. Park, your
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not Mr. Cohen Big change Mr.
Park to speak on this matter.
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- Yes. Mr. Burke?
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- Yep. Mr. Park.
- Come on.
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- Mr. Mr. Moderator. Steve
Park. Park Precinct. G
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- Mr. Park.
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I'm sorry,
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- The reading, the reading
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of the motion has already
been waived, right?
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- Well it's waived now.
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- Okay, good evening.
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The motion before he proposes
an Article 97 land swap
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between the N-R-C-D-P-W and MWRA.
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The NRC would transfer
approximately half an acre
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of protected Article 97 land.
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Okay, sorry. I'll start again.
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The motion before you propose
is an Article 97 land swap
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between the N-R-C-D-P-W and MWRA.
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The NRC would transfer
approximately half an acre
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of protected Article 97 land
at Rosemary Brook Town Forest
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at 1 25 Barton Road to the DPW.
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The DPW will make the
land available to the MWRA
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for the construction of
a shaft site for access
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to subsurface piping
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and furtherance of the
Metropolitan Water Tunnel program.
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This will also allow the town
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to connect the nearby
Haggerty pumping station
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to the new water tunnel system.
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The DPW will complete the land swap
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by transferring approximately half an acre
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of water department land to the NRC.
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This land is adjacent to Ice
House pond in the Mors Pond
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beach area and it will be per
permanently protected under
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Article 97.
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The NRC has discussed the
proposed land transfer
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between N-R-C-D-P-W and an
MWRA at several meetings
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and approves the designs.
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The NRC is comfortable with the transfer
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and confident that the proposal meets the
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requirements of Article 97.
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As the proposed land is compar,
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the proposed land is comparable
in character and size
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and does not represent a loss
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of protected open space for the community.
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And with that, I ask you
to recognize Dave Cohen
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of the public works to speak
in more detail on this matter
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- Mr. Cohen.
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And just for clarification,
the article 97, he referred to
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as not the warrant, but
rather the state constitution.
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- Dave Cohen, DPW Director, Mr.
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Moderator, Mr. Cohen
Boston is in view. Mr.
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Moderator, this article,
sorry to all of you.
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This article requests
authorization for land transfers so
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that the MWRA can construct
a deep tunnel shaft
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for their upcoming metro
water tunnel project.
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Turns out that the preferred location
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for the tunnel shaft is located
on NRC Article 97 property
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next to the Haggerty pumping
station on Barton Road.
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To make this work, we have
to transfer the property
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to the MWRA and to make that work, we need
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to find suitable replacement land.
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So with the support of the
NRC, we identified suitable,
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suitable replacement land,
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which we will discuss in a minute.
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And to make all of this work,
the action require requested
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of town meeting has three parts.
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First, We ask that you
authorize the NRC to dispose
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of about half an acre of
land at their property at
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1 25 Barton Road.
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This will also allow
subsequent transfer of the land
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to the MWRA.
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Then we ask for you, for
you to authorize the Board
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of Public Works to transfer
an equivalent amount
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of Waterworks Waterworks land
near Morse's Pond to the NRC
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as replacement Article 97 land.
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And finally, we ask that you
authorize the select board
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to petition the state to allow disposition
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of land currently protected by Article 97.
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Some background. So the purpose
of the MWRA Metro Tunnel is
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to provide key redundancy
to the MWRA system in the,
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in the metro Boston area.
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When complete this project
will allow the MWRA
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to perform critical maintenance
on their existing network,
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which is very old and is in
serious need of attention.
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This map shows the conceptual
tunnel location shown in red
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dash line with one one branch
heading north out of Westin
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and one branch heading south.
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The arrow points to our Haggerty
pumping station in 2023.
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The MWRA reached out to let
us know that their plans
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for the Metro Tunnel Project
would see the deep tunnel pass
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300 feet underneath Wellesley.
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And that there was an opportunity
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to construct a shaft adjacent
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to the Haggerty pumping
station on Barton Road, which
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is happens to be the location
of our current connection
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to the MWRA.
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This is an advantageous location for us.
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Since eventual connection
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to this new tunnel would
involve only minimal disruption
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right across the driveway.
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As plans moved forward, the
most advantageous location
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for the tunnel shaft was on
the parcel, as I mentioned,
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right across from the Hagerty station.
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And that land is owned by the NRC
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and it's Article 97 Conservation
Land in order to make use
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of that land statute requires
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that suitable replacement
land be identified.
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We reviewed alternatives throughout town
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and landed on the Waterworks land adjacent
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to the NRC property at Morris' Pond.
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The Board of Public Works and
NRC both approved of this,
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of this option in concept.
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When we reviewed this option
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with the State's Executive
Office of Environmental Affairs,
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affairs heard no objection from them.
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The next step for us is
then town meeting approval.
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So this map shows the two
properties under discussion
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with the red line in
the upper right showing
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the MWRA tunnel.
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On the right side is the
Barton Road NRC parcel.
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And on the left side is the Board
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of Public Works waterworks parcel adjacent
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to the NRC at Mors Pond.
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This this slide shows a plan view
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and an aerial view of both parcels.
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You can see the proximity
of the parcel proposed
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of the proposed shaft to
the Haggerty pumping station
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where we can connect to that
shaft just across the driveway.
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That parcel is 23,453 feet
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at the Mors Pond site.
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The carve out of Waterworks
land would give the NRCA
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contiguous parcel for
conservation purposes.
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This parcel is 24,000 square feet.
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MWRA schedule for this project indicates
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that activity at the shaft
site would take place
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approximately in 2030 in the
event that their plans change.
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The deed and grant of easement
would include reversionary
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clause where ownership
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and rights of the land would revert back
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to Wellesley if the land were not used
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for the purposes it was acquired for.
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So we have a three step process leading
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to an outcome we feel is
advantageous for the town.
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I appreciate your patience
through all my marathon
-
of presentations this evening
-
and ask for your favorable
action on this motion.
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- Okay. Mr. Mr. Riley
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- Madison Riley. Mr. Moderator?
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- Yes, Mr. Riley.
- Regarding Article 29
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advisory supports the proposed
land swap between the town
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and the Massachusetts Water
Resource Authority and WRA.
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The principle benefit to the
town is enhanced reliability of
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and access to MWRA water
infrastructure which will
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strengthen, strengthen the
town's water supply system.
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There is no net loss of
town conservation land
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as transferring a half an acre
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of land in the Rosemary
Town Forest would be offset
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by putting an equal amount
of land near Morse's Pond
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into conservation use.
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Advisory recommends
favorable action 12 to zero.
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- Thank you Mr. Riley.
The floor is now open
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for debate on the motion under Article 29.
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Mr. Jones. Mr. Jones, I think
you jumped, you jumped ahead
-
of the person who was heading
down here first. Okay.
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- Oh, go ahead. Go ahead. Oh, okay. Okay.
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Pete Jones, precinct B.
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- Mr. Jones.
- Mr.
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Moderator, looking at this proposal,
-
and correct me if I'm
wrong, it sounds like
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we're taking two pieces of
property that belong to the town
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trading one to the, to the MWRA
-
and having another, it,
it almost seems like we're
-
consuming two pieces of our
property for their benefit.
-
I don't, I'd like a little
clarification on that
-
because it, it's not clear in my mind
-
that this is beneficial
for the town and the,
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and the follow up question on
this would be why do they have
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to own that piece of property?
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Why can't we just give them an easement
-
in that piece of property?
-
So two questions,
-
two parts is it sounds
like we're using two pieces
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of our property to make the deal.
-
- Mr. Cohen, I guess the
question is we're giving up too
-
much and do we need to give up
anything to make this happen?
-
- Dave Cohen, DPW Director,
Mr. Moderator, Mr. Cohen.
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So perhaps I misspoke.
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One parcel would be
transferred to the MWRA.
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The rest of the land
is within town control.
-
And really the second
piece of the transaction is
-
because of the article 97
statute, we just need to find
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that replacement land.
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And so just one parcel that
we would be transferring
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to the MWRA, we think
-
that it would be significant
advantage for the town.
-
If we don't make that available
then it would be unlikely
-
that we would be able to
connect to the metro tunnel.
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This allows us to do that
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with minimal disruption to the town.
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We wouldn't have to dig
through roads in town.
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It's right literally
right across the driveway.
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So we think there's a
significant advantage and,
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but this is for you to all consider,
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- Okay, Ms. Weinberg,
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- Nancy Weinberg precinct.
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I'm relieved to hear that it
would revert back to the town.
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That wasn't clear to me at first.
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Under what circumstance
would this not go through
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and get held?
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Can you explain that?
2030, if they don't use it,
-
if you don't connect by then
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- The circumstances under
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what you would revert back to the town.
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- Dave Cohen, DPW director, Mr. Moderator,
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- Mr. Cohen.
-
- I don't anticipate there
will be any circumstances but,
-
but there's just a, a
little bit of protection
-
for the town in the event
-
that the MWA say couldn't
get the permitting
-
to do the work that they wanted to do.
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So if that project doesn't
go forward for any purpose,
-
that's, that clause is in is sort
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of gives us that protection.
-
- And a follow up question, Mr.
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Moderator, I believe
there were what six towns,
-
did any other town have to
give over a half of an acre
-
or any other acreage of land
for this tunnel project?
-
- Did any, did any of the other towns have
-
to give anything up to make this happen?
-
- Dave Cohen, dp, DPW Director
or Mr. Moderator? Mr. Cohen.
-
So there were several other communities
-
that are potentially impacted by this
-
and each of them I think
has unique situations.
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Waltham was one of them.
Another one was in Needham.
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That one actually happens
to be on MWRA property.
-
So there was no transfer there.
-
And then a couple of the other
sites were either mast or DCR
-
and then there might
be one other property.
-
I'm not sure what town it
is. So as I, I inquired
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to the MWRA about that same question.
-
They did gimme the information
about these other sites,
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but it seemed like none of them were quite
-
similar to what we had.
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So we had a little bit of
different situation. So
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- This is the only instance
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of a town giving away their
land for this purpose.
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For a benefit of course, but Okay.
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- That I know of right now.
- Okay, Mr. Jones.
-
- So I just want to Mr.
Mario, Pete Jones Precinct P
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- Mr. Jones.
-
- So I think I understand it completely
-
that we're basically dealing
with two pieces of our property
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with the benefit of the MWRA.
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For some reason they will not let us have
-
that connection because
we don't give them those
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that, that trade off.
-
I is that my understanding
-
- Is the transfer of the land
to the M-W-I-R-A necessary
-
to make the connection.
-
- Yeah. Dave Cohen. So Mr.
-
Moderator, so the,
-
the reason why I sort of
answered the first part of the,
-
the speaker's question,
the, the difference between
-
doing a, a land transfer
versus an easement.
-
An easement is something that
would be considered if there
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was, if there was
infrastructure under the ground.
-
But because this is gonna require
a shaft state above ground
-
that needs to be
maintained, it's the M BMW's
-
preference, I would say,
-
but possibly need their need
that the land be transferred so
-
that they can control that completely
-
and not have to do it through an easement.
-
And so we felt as though
that was reasonable
-
and it is to their advantage.
-
But I I will also say that for us,
-
we think it's a significant
advantage for us
-
to be able to connect to this.
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If it's, if this
opportunity weren't there,
-
then we wouldn't have that opportunity.
-
So, so for us it feels like a,
-
it feels like a reasonable
and a good thing to do.
-
- Okay. Is there anybody else
-
that wishes to be heard on this?
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Okay, before I call for the vote,
-
I just wanna make an announcement
-
'cause people tend to leave very quickly
-
after the last vote.
-
And that is, there's a
possibility that we're gonna have
-
to change the location of
the meeting tomorrow night
-
because of fire code requirements.
-
So please check your emails tomorrow.
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So if you get anything from the moderator,
-
from the town clerk or anybody
else in the town, please
-
look at it because it will confirm
-
where we're gonna be
meeting tomorrow night.
-
Okay. With, with that having
been said, I think this vote,
-
this requires a two thirds
because it's a land transaction.
-
And since we've had some discussion on it,
-
I think I'm gonna call for an
electronic vote on this one.
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Okay. 30 seconds to vote.
One, one for yes, two for no.
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Three to abstain.
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10 sec. 10 seconds. Remain
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voting period is now closed.
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151 in the affirmative.
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Three negative one abstention
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that satisfies the two thirds requirements
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of the motion under Article 29 carries.
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See you tomorrow night somewhere.
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- No complaints there.
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Great job. See you.