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All right.
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Good evening. We are going to call this meeting
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to order at 6 32.
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I will do a roll call. Dr. Welch
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Present.
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Ms. Goeth present. Ms. Collins? Yes. Ms. Brunell here.
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And I am here. So that is a quorum we can get started.
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I'm going to make a motion to enter into executive session
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to discuss strategy with respect to collective bargaining,
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including an analysis
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of recently settled contracts in preparation
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for upcoming negotiations.
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Because discussion
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and open session may have a detrimental effect on the school
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committee's bargaining position,
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collective bargaining strategy
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regarding class size and staffing.
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And the chair
And the, and the chair declares second.
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So that's a motion by me and a second by Ms. Collins.
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We will do a roll call. Vote. Dr. Welch. Yes. Ms. Goeth?
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Yes. Ms. Collins? Yes. Ms. Brunell? Yes. And I am a Yes.
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We are now in executive session.
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We'll return approximately seven o'clock.
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We are back from executive session.
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Tricia, can we change this to the other view please?
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Just so I can see who's online.
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Welcome everybody. Awesome.
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Did we change the settings to make?
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Okay. All right. Oh wow.
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All right, so we are back from executive session.
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And the first thing that we are going to do,
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and just so everybody knows, this meeting is being broadcast
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and recorded by Pegasus for future consumption.
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And so the first thing that we are going
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to do is the Pledge of Allegiance.
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Dr. Stash, would you like to introduce anyone?
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I'm gonna have Ms. Alani do this,
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but we have the standard bearers from Memorial Elementary
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School who are gonna lead us in the pledge tonight.
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And we have lots of other visitors
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who have another role in a few minutes.
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But we are so excited to have you all here. We
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Have David and Adina,
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David Andina are gonna lead us in the
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Pgi.
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And if everybody could please rise.
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And then after the Pledge of Allegiance,
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we will have a brief moment of silence.
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I allegiance to do the flag
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of the United States of America
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and to Republic stands one, one Nation.
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And under God, invisible with liberty and Justice Girl.
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Thank you. And thank you to our standard bearers.
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We take that moment of silence to honor all of our,
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our service members, both foreign and domestically.
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Alright, so now we will do announcements.
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I know there are probably a lot of people in the room
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and maybe watching who have not
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experienced a school committee meeting before.
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So I'll try to be a little more
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verbose about what we're doing while you're here.
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So first thing announcements. Dr.
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Pash, do you have any announcements?
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I do. I just need to get my screen
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so I can actually, there we go.
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Okay. Some of you may know
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that we have town meetings starting tomorrow night,
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and I wanna briefly highlight Article seven,
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which I'm sponsoring it requi.
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It is requesting $300,000 for a feasibility study
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and preliminary design for memorial parents.
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That might sound like very familiar language,
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but this is to replace Lil J's aging heating system
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and add classroom air conditioning.
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Very exciting and very needed funding.
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Includes a secured $150,000 state grant
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with no borrowing required.
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We're happy to say we had unanimous support from the fin com
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and from this school committee.
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So we're really hopeful that this passes at town meeting.
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All right. Any other members of the committee?
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I have an announcement, but I'll,
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if anybody else has one, please. Ms. Collins Town
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Meeting begins tomorrow night at seven 30.
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Seven 30. Kennedy at Kennedy.
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Alright, so just to not so much an announcement,
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I'm just gonna go over what tonight's plan is.
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So once we're finished with announcements,
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we've already done executive session,
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we're gonna do our public speak portion of the evening.
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I have nobody who signed up,
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but public speak is a period of 15 minutes.
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I'll read that in a moment. We have a couple
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of other quick things that go after that.
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In terms of the main agenda items, the first big thing is
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after of course we get our NPS spotlight, there's going
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to be a presentation on MCAS on the most recent MCAS.
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And then after that, our first hearing
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of the Memorial Education program, for people
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who are not aware, there's consideration in town about a
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potential new memorial school.
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And so there's gonna be a, our first presentation on
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that educational program next week, next Monday,
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we have a special, another school committee meeting
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where we will be taking public comment
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and questions on the presentation that we hear tonight.
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So for tonight's presentation,
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we will not take public comment or questions.
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Members of the committee
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certainly will have that opportunity.
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But again, we'll have a meeting next week about this again.
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And then the meeting
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after that November 2nd,
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the school committee will talk about it one more time
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and we will vote on the plan that we hear presented tonight.
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Then there are a couple other agenda items,
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but I thought that that, that's a pretty big one.
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It's been in the NPS Engage email.
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You may have seen it on Instagram or other social media.
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So that's what our plan is for tonight.
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And then later on we'll talk about some other stuff.
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Alright, so public speak.
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Public speak is scheduled for a period of 15 minutes.
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Each speaker will be permitted a maximum of three minutes
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during which time they can speak about topics within the
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scope of responsibility of the school committee.
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All remarks will be addressed
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through the school committee chair.
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Public speak is not a time for debate
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or response to comments by the school committee.
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Nobody signed up for public speak. Is there anybody online?
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I can't see. And
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that person is ranisha
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Ranisha cannot is.
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I hope I pronounced that right.
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You did.
Okay, great. Please.
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So I'm, before you start, I don't know if you can see me,
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I can't see you, but I'm gonna start a timer
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for three minutes, and at two
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and a half minutes I will put my hand up.
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And at that point, that's just your, that's your signal
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that you have 30 more seconds. Okay.
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Okay. Thank you.
And again,
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the school committee will not respond
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to any of these things right now.
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All right. You may begin, please.
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Hi. Okay. So good evening,
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members of the school committee.
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My name is Ranisha Kanat
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and I'm speaking tonight on behalf of the Medco families
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that ride them Wilson and High School Medco School bus.
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So I'm just trying to bring an urgent to your attention.
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An urgent matter that we have been experiencing the past few
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weeks with our substitute bus drivers.
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Whenever a regular bus driver is out
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and it's no longer a scheduling issue
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or annoyance for parents,
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it's now become a severe student safety
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issue and equity issue.
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So in the mornings, chronic delays, which causes my child
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to miss the first half of her classes several times over the
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past couple weeks, we have the bus driver refusing
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to drop kids off at certain stops,
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skipping stops on multiple occasions.
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Last week he told the kids to call your parents
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and have them figure it out
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after skipping the first stop,
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which is immediately off the highway.
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So I'm not sure how he was not able to find that stop.
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He's dropping them off at different intersections
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where just busy intersections,
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where Hector will not drop the kids off.
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He'll actually drop them off across the street
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where he know they're safe.
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We have a parent group chat,
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and in that group chat,
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parents will literally coordinate an emergency rides
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for their kids tracking the lost bus via people's phones
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trying to intercept the bus.
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Today the kids were dropped off at the
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police station in Dudley.
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Some were dropped off at the Medco headquarters
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because he skipped all the stops after Forest Hill
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before the last stop.
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I know our high school coordinator, she was on the phone
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with him trying to tell him not to skip the stops.
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But it's, it's become like a search
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and rescue mission for our kids in the
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afternoon when it comes to the bus.
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I remember my first Wilson back to school night,
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they talked about cell phones
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and how like, you know, if your kid wants a cell phone,
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you know, tell 'em that everyone has a cell phone.
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Our kids need cell phone
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because that's the only how we can track them.
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Like, it's to the point that if I can't look at my
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daughter's live 360, I don't know
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where she is in the afternoons when it comes
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to the substitute bus driver.
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And if it's a one off situation, I can eat it.
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But it happens consistently.
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And we are less than two months into the school year.
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Today what I had parents calling me, asking me, Hey,
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you know, did Maddie get off the bus
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because their kids don't have a cell phone?
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And I'm like, Hey, she's not on the bus today.
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She actually took the late bus
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and I'm trying to help them coordinate stuff,
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but you know, my kid's not there.
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So it's just, it's a lot
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for parents in the afternoon just trying
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to figure out where our kids are.
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And I just want them to be at the bus stop
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that you tell me you're gonna drop them off at.
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So I just wanna know if there's anything
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that you guys can do, any pressures you could put on the,
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on the bus transportation company, something
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because sending emails is not working.
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Ev all, you know, we have administrative in that group chat,
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they can see what's going on.
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My parents are asking,
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Hey, I'm gonna skip the stop.
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Where's the bus going? Thank God we had a high schooler last
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week who stayed on the bus actually
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to help navigate the driver way past her.
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Stop. Thank, so I just wanted
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to bring that to your attention. That's it.
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Thank you Mrs. Kana. Thank you.
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Anyone else from public speak?
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All right, so now we will move to the
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representative updates.
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Mr. Wood.
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Thank you, Mr. Chair. I just wanted to say very briefly
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that our hearts, the, I'm speaking
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for I think the entire Natick school committee community
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right now that our hearts go out to our brothers
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and sisters out in the community of Band Oregon.
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I have some thoughts, but probably not
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appropriate for this exact moment.
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And I'm, I'm bothered by the fact that I've had
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to say something similar to this often in the course
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of my years coming here as the teacher representative.
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That being said, I understand
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that we've got some presenters tonight with bedtimes,
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so I'm not going to drag this out. Thank you.
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Thank you. Mr. Wood. I have a, yeah, that's us.
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Yeah. Are Mr.
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Steinman, do you have a, an update from the students? No.
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Update. Okay. Ms. Gomes, are you online? No.
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If so, if she arrives later
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and she wants to give an update, we can do that.
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Okay. We'll move on to the consent agenda.
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And by the way, Dr.
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Fugman is online, so all of our votes
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for tonight will be roll call votes
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Move
To accept the consent agenda.
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Motion. Second. Motion by Ms.
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Brunell, seconded by Ms. Collins.
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We're gonna do a roll call. Vote. Dr. Welch. Yes. Ms. Goeth?
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Yes. Ms. Collins? Yes. Mr. Patel? Yes. Ms. Brunell? Yes. Dr.
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Fugman. How a Yes. And I'm a yes.
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That's 7 0 0 for the consent agenda.
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And we will move on
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to the superintendent's report. Dr. Fash.
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Okay. Our favorite part of the meeting,
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we're gonna have the NPS spotlight.
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I know Ms. Alani and Mr.
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Mara are going to kind of help explain
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and introduce everybody,
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but I just wanted to explain
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that this is memorial's fourth grade safety Patrol.
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I was at Memorial in our first couple days
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of the school year and I watched them on,
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I think it was their first day in action
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and saw them kind of getting ready.
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I can't wait to hear how they've evolved,
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but they pretty amazing group of kids.
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And we're excited to hear about what they do.
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And I'm not gonna say it. They should. So welcome.
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We can't wait to hear from you.
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So before our very capable fourth graders start their
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presentation, I just wanna share
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with you our fourth grade safety patrol
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is something that happens.
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It started two years ago and was brought to us from Mr.
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Mara in his previous experience.
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It's actually a program that AAA supports
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and each year we train up the members
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and they help us do some special
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things that they're gonna tell you about.
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Right. Okay. We ready? Great.
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Okay. So you can spread out.
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Thank you for this opportunity
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to share about Safety Patrol Program at Memorial School.
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Today we would like to share the following,
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teach our community about the Safety Patrol program.
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Share the key responsibilities of the patrol,
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share what it means to be part of a safe part of the patrol.
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Share how being a patrol member makes us feel.
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Right. Go
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ahead Ms.
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Cormier. We're going
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to slide three if you're forwarding slides.
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What is Safety Habit Safety Patrol is a dedicated group
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of fourth graders who model
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and promote safety across the entire school community.
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Safety Patrol members primarily assist
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with a safe arrival in dismissal of all students
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and ensure students stay mindful of car traffic.
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You couldn't rehearse that. They're killing it though.
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Key responsibilities of Safety Patrol. Safety
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Patrol.
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In the morning we safely assist students exiting cars,
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walk students a sidewalks supervised crosswalk usage,
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greet students at the school doors and monitor traffic.
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In the afternoon, we organize bus lines, guide students
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to proper dismissal locations within the school.
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And this is teachers with bus attendants.
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We show up on time for assigned morning
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and afternoon duties.
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Each week we work together with fellow patrol members
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to cover all design designated posts and responsibilities.
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We, we constantly model safe, respectful behavior
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for younger students across the school.
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What does it mean to be a part of Safety Patrol?
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Recognizing that our role directly impacts the physical
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safety and wellbeing of our peers.
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We understand that our actions set the tone
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for safe behavior across all grade levels.
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We learn the importance of paying attention,
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noticing details, and carrying out on task with care.
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How does it feel to be a member of the Safety Patrol?
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I feel honored and trusted within the school community.
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I feel valued for contributing positively
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to daily school operations.
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I feel empowered, I feel confident.
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I feel like a leader. I feel useful to the school community.
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1, 2, 3.
Thank you
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for listening about the safety program
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At Memorial
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Wow.
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Before,
Before any of our,
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before any of our students leave, if there are,
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if there are family members who want to come over here
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and take a picture, because I know some people
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you were doing from back, if you want
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to come take a picture, you're welcome to do that.
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I just, for our students,
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before you leave while the photos are happening,
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I just want you to know one of the things
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that we do at school committee meetings after,
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after, as part of this kind of agenda item is that members
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of the committee might have a couple
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of questions, if that's all right.
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So first you have to, my first question is,
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can you all smile for whichever camera you're looking at?
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Maybe everybody looks this direction. Social media. So yeah.
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Everyone look over here for one quick second over.
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Yeah, you can wave. That's all right. Okay.
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Would does,
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and maybe this might be a little challenging, maybe,
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maybe we can get some help,
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but do any members
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of the school committee have any questions
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for the Memorial Safety Patrol that they would like to ask?
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Ms. Collins has a question.
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Thank you. And thank you all for participating.
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Were you selected by like the principal
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or did you have to apply?
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Or how did you get this position?
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They all know
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Maybe we can get some facilitation assistance.
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Nala, since you're so close to a
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microphone, would you mind speaking
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We had to do an essay to get into safety patrol.
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Oh, thank you.
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Do we have Ms. Collins, do you have any other questions?
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Any other members have a question? Ms. Brunell, are
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There any surprising parts about your role
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that you like or dislike?
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I'll give it both ways.
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Do you wanna step up? Sammy, do you wanna share?
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And then Dylan, do you wanna share
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Like sometimes on some of the days we
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we're there for like extra time because our,
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because like when we're supposed to be called to leave,
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we're like there for like twice the amount of time
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we, we switch morning and afternoon duty in November.
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Gia do you have,
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I like that.
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How you, for some reason I like how to like say walk
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to kids that are running
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For some reason.
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Outstanding. Any other questions?
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Did Mr. Patel has a comment?
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Ah, as a parent of a kindergarten,
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a fresh kindergartner at Memorial,
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I just wanna say thank you guys.
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She feels really safe in your hands. Thank you.
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Very good. Thank you everybody.
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Thank you. Thank you all for coming.
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You're of course welcome to stay,
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but I suspect there might be other plans, but thank you.
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Dr. Welch is handing out high
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fives if you need one of those.
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Thank you everybody. That's
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Awesome.
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Yeah. We're gonna take a five minute recess just to let the,
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the, the traffic jam.
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All right. We are back before,
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before we jump into the next agenda item two
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other pieces of business.
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I know Ms. Gomes has joined.
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Now I don't know if you would like
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to give an update as our me rep.
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Hi. No updates at this time.
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I apologize for my tardiness. No
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Problem, no problem.
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Okay. Just wanted you to have the opportunity. Thank you.
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And the, we're gonna jump ahead to one action item,
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which is the vote on the school committee
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recording Secretary.
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I will take a motion. Ms. Collins,
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Move to a Tricia Cormier
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as the school committee's recording
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secretary for the school year.
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Second. That is a motion by Ms. Collins
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and seconded by Dr. Welch.
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We'll do a any discussion about that. Alright.
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We'll do a roll call Vote. Dr. Welch. Yes. Ms. Corset? Yes.
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Ms. Collins? Yes. Mr. Patel? Yes. Ms. Bruell? Yes. Dr.
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Fugman.
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And I'm a Yes.
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Six zero. Zero. All right. Dr. Bash, we're back to you.
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Okay, great. We are gonna move to our 2026
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MCA report, which we've titled this year, MCAS,
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attendance and Accountability.
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And as she's bringing up that slide tonight,
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we share the MCAS report.
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One shift you're going
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to see in tonight's presentation is the incorporation
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of alignment, the strategic plan.
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And 2026 is like,
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so last spring's test results form the baseline
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for the future kind of anchoring of that plan.
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So we'll continue to measure progress against the aims
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that have to do with these scores through 2031.
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It's a very big, an exciting thing to say is bear into MCAS.
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Next slide please. So what's different this year?
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Last October, the question we asked was how did we do?
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and to our peers tonight we're reviewing those results
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and also the baseline for our strategic plan
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still here is achievement compared to the state
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and similar districts growth gaps between learning groups
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and state accountability ratings for each school new.
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Each of these is tied to the a strategic plan goal
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with 2026 as a starting point.
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Also new the district's overall accountability, rating
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and attendance are added.
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You'll see these same measures every year.
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So we can tell you honestly whether we're moving forward.
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That's our goal. Next slide please.
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So there's six parts to this presentation.
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The first, for orientation,
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every data slide has a tag in the top right it's blue gray
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for anything that's state and then it's red for Natick.
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The two state slides also have a blue gray background.
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of cues 'cause it's a lot of data.
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we'll first compare ourselves to the state
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and then we'll show how NATA compared with the prior year,
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which is really growth measures also to 2019.
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2019 was something that the state was really using
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as an anchor for pre COVID numbers.
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or what we call our dart.
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that use test data.
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Those are 1.1, you don't have to memorize this yet,
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but it's around closing achievement gaps.
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So those are the two we're gonna anchor in.
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and schools and attendance.
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or sips are responding to the data.
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Next slide. So headlines, what's going well?
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A lot is going well. We've been kind
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of talking about it over the last few meetings.
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We're well above the state.
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Everywhere you can see that 16 to 31 points
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above the state in every subject.
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And our drops since 2019.
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If you recall, the whole state pretty much dropped,
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but our drops are smaller than the state.
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Performance is climbing.
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Grades three to eight are up three points,
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which is remarkable now above 2019.
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of rolling out illustrative math in the elementary,
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which we think is a meaningful change.
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Grades four through eight grew faster than typical.
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We're 60 is considered high growth.
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Medium growth is from 40 to to 59. So we were at 57.
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It's just on the cusp of high growth. Remarkable.
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And then our English learners,
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78% met their progress goals as set by the state.
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Also were remarkable up significantly from the prior year,
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which was 61%.
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I've never seen as high as 78%.
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So I'm really excited about that.
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Also, as we previously shared, we have one school
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who received a 2026 school of recognition.
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I'm sure we'll hear more about that when
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we get invited to the state house.
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And then we have three focus areas
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that are already in the adopted strategic plan, reading
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and writing, bringing maths progress up to ELA, especially
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for low income students and students with disabilities.
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For context, again, we're in our first year
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of launching new curriculum for English.
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Basically literacy in grades K to eight. Very exciting.
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CKLA and el. In grade 10, our gaps widened
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and ELA growth was below typical.
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So we have work to do there.
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And then we are focusing on attendance at the high school.
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But we're gonna go through this
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as we go through this presentation.
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Next slide please. Oh, this is yours. Passing it to Sandy.
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Thank you Dr. Bash.
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Sandy Laman, coordinator of data
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and student success from the Department
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of Teaching learning and Leadership.
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So we'll start with grades three through eight.
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We had some mixed results.
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Highlights include the three point increase.
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You can see under math, Dr. Stash referenced that.
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And actually we grew in science in
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grade eight as well.
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You'll see as compared to the state,
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there were a couple of times
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where we outpaced the state
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and there are, there's one instance where the state
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outpaced us in science grade five,
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the state would tell you that anything between two points is
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basically level.
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Next slide please. In grade 10.
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So you're looking at grade 10 again, Natick in the dark blue
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math grew those two points while the
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state declined by a point.
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I'm gonna remind you that we talked last year about
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the growth in the movement in the area of math
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because of a school improvement goal at the high school.
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That goal, while it's not
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specifically named in the high school SIP goal,
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is still alive and well and is going into its third year.
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And we're seeing that that progress ELA
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and science saw declines that were similar to,
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to the state's declines overall.
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Next slide please. So looking at
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sort of overall results when you're looking longitudinally,
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this is a lot of information on one slide.
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So I am going to draw your attention
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to two things in particular with that sort
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of 2019 metric.
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If you go to math grades three through eight, you'll notice
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that we're one point above in 2019,
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which means we've recovered our deficit
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from that COID.
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And in science five to eight we're one below.
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So we are very close to recovering that.
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You'll also notice as you look across,
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we have some work to do.
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We know, and we are,
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and if you're wondering about the science, the the
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assessment in 2019 was different.
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So they don't have a comparison for that year, which is why
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it's not applicable.
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Next slide please. So this is the
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DART districts that Dr.
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Stash referred to the similar districts.
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You'll notice that in three through eight, the,
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the red line represents the state.
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And we were eighth of 11th
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in ELA and sixth of 11th in math.
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So we are climbing in math, which is the growth that Dr.
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SP referred to. We still have some work to do
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as we roll out our new curriculum at the high school level.
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Next slide please. Again, you're looking at
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ELA seventh of 11th and
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and in math, sixth of 11th, again, another climb
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for for the area of math against our our DART districts.
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Next slide please. Our
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learner gaps basically remain the same
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with the exception of our ls.
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And you'll notice that as the green line in ELA.
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Over on the left hand side.
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The this slide is showing you basically the percentages
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of students that met
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or exceeded MCAS benchmark measures
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and the percentages that you are, I'm sorry, the numbers
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that you're seeing are the distance between
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that learner group and the all students statistics.
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So if we were, if we were to close all
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of the gaps, all of these lines would be at zero
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because everyone would be equal.
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So to sort of unpack that, that data is a little complex,
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but you'll notice from last year to this year, most
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categories here basically maintained with the exception
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of the L group in ELA.
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Next slide. Dr. Bash, do you wanna talk to this one?
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Yeah, I can. This is really just framing this in terms
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of our goal 1.1 for closing achievement gaps.
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I think Sandy just described what a gap is.
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But in reading the chart,
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the full bar grab bar is this year's gap.
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The dark part is our 2031 goal
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and the light part is what we need to close.
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So for instance, in ELA low income,
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the dark blue is where we are.
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And yeah, and we, we need to close that light blue portion.
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So there's a 10 point closure there.
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The goal is to shrink every gap
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by at least 10 points or one quarter.
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This is something that started last year when we worked
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with our steering committee and set the aims as a,
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as a 37 member committee.
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That felt reasonable.
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And so that's where these measures came from
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in my past in doing a lot of work as a teacher,
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as a principal, and in other roles closing gaps,
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I think it's really important to set a bar
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and work diligently and kind of passionately toward it.
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And it's sort of about, shoot, you're shooting for a star
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and, and, and aiming at it with a lot of good practice.
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And my hope is we exceed all of these,
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but these are reasonable based on kind of,
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I guess my own experience
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and our own experience in terms
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of what's achievable in five years.
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So I guess I'd say it's a bit experiential
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and it was built not really upon a, just a district view,
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but a, a steering committee shot at what that would be.
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Kim. So what can I add? One thing? Yeah.
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I think it's also important to note that it won't be,
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if you're closing a gap over five years of 10 points,
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that it'll be two points a year.
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Right? Good point. So remember that learning goes like this.
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So just keep that in mind in terms
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of expectations at five years could look different
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for different groups in different subject areas.
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I mean, closing gaps is something
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that has been worked on in education for decades.
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Decades. It is diligent, important equity work.
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And so I think we're brave to be taking this on.
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It's right to be taking this on
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and we're gonna have conversations about it every year,
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which we're excited to have.
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And it's gonna be, it's gonna be a good ride
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and we're excited about it.
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So I know we're very committed to it as a district.
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It's important to just also note, you do see some pieces,
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especially on the right, that show that English link
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learners fewer than 10 tested.
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That's a state mark for what's not statistically reportable.
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So once our high school starts
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to have more multilingual learners, we will start
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to see those things published.
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Okay, so you, you don't see them now.
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We may see them in the future. I think that's it.
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Next we're gonna take a look at growth. And Dr.
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Stash also referred to this sort of in our highlights about
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how significant our growth is in many areas.
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The one area, the,
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the small blue line is
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the 50% line of SGP.
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We love to be higher than that.
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And we are in all these areas with the exception
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of grade 10 ELA.
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You'll notice to the right when we look at all students,
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all students' growth was also below that 50 mark.
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And then our learner groups were, were
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below that 50 mark.
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So this is something that we're very aware of.
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The high school is very aware of it
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and one of
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GI blocker's,
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school improvement plan goals is a partnership between
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the social studies and the English department to, to work on
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on that in particular.
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Next slide please. So this is a slide that I think
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many people in this room are familiar with.
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This was from a few meetings back when those,
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those wonderful balloons arrived.
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The, the 66% that was the annual change
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between last year and this year.
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So we're gonna talk a little bit more about accountability
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Now it was flat from 24 to 25
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and then really shot up
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and four out of seven of the schools were at
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or above the 80th percentile.
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And then six out of seven are
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above the 80th percentile this year.
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And all seven of our schools made substantial progress.
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This is important to note when we go to the next slide,
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which shows you, thank you.
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The state rates are progress against certain targets
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and they use a two year span
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of accountability data in order to do this.
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So when you see the district at 2026, at 62,
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you're thinking, but wait, wasn't it 66?
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It was for one year.
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But it also takes into account
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that flat rate from the year before.
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So there's a 40%, 60% divide in the accountability
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that comes out at 62%
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because we were so strong this year.
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I have my crystal ball
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and I think next year's gonna be really good.
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So what this shows you is last year's substantial progress.
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And then of course this year is that bottom line.
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Again, our schools are moving, there's a lot
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to celebrate here.
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Next slide please. So that 80%
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was four of seven schools is now six
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of seven, which is amazing.
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The median percentile of our seven schools is 86,
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which is wonderful.
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We have two schools that are meeting
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or exceeding our targets.
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We've already acknowledged Bennett Hemingway
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and there are four schools making
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substantial progress toward our targets.
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There was one identification from the state for
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being flagged for test participation.
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We're gonna talk about that on the next slide please.
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So this slide is really about making sure we get the
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messaging out that showing up and taking the MCAS
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and taking it seriously is important.
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The state is expecting us to meet a threshold of 95%.
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We were flagged at 94%
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for our low income students this past year.
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So if you look, that's a group of 190
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of our students at the high school
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and 177 of them took it.
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So if we were to have gotten three more students,
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we would've hit that 95% threshold.
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We have entered into conversations
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at the high school already.
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We have some processes
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in place that we are working on in order to ensure
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that we get as many kids in CS for MCAS as possible,
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but also getting the word out that it's super important
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for our community to understand that taking
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the MCAS while it may not be a graduation requirement is
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also very important to our district and
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and for our accountability.
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Next slide please. Chronic absenteeism.
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We are significantly lower than the state,
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which is wonderful, but we are up from last year.
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So we rose from
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8.7 to 10.2.
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As a district. Our goal is
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for 2031 is to reduce that to eight.
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Between 8.2 and 8.7%.
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That's a decrease of 15 to 20%.
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I can report that attendance
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and chronic attendance is a hot topic in terms of data
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and strategy all over the district.
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I've engaged in lots of conversations
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with administrators about this.
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I think one of the things
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to remember, or something to point out is
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a student needs only to be absent twice a month for them
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to be chronically absent.
783
00:40:18.345 --> 00:40:20.365
Now twice a month doesn't sound like a lot,
784
00:40:21.025 --> 00:40:23.765
but when you add that up over time it becomes a
785
00:40:23.765 --> 00:40:25.405
chronically absent student.
786
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And the state has done extensive research on
787
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the effects on MCA scores and learning
788
00:40:33.795 --> 00:40:36.565
because of the time on learning loss.
789
00:40:37.485 --> 00:40:41.125
A chronically absent student who's absent 18 days actually
790
00:40:41.255 --> 00:40:44.405
loses about a third of a year's worth of learning.
791
00:40:45.425 --> 00:40:49.205
So it's super important for us to work very hard
792
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and partner with the communities
793
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and families to make sure our kids get to school.
794
00:40:55.235 --> 00:40:58.765
Next slide please. So one
795
00:40:59.225 --> 00:41:03.805
of the focus areas is at the high school, their high school
796
00:41:04.565 --> 00:41:07.565
attendance rate went up by 4%.
797
00:41:08.555 --> 00:41:11.605
When you dig a little bit deeper, you'll, you'll see
798
00:41:11.605 --> 00:41:14.765
that elementary and middle was basically flat.
799
00:41:16.105 --> 00:41:17.245
So it was the high school
800
00:41:17.355 --> 00:41:20.405
that really affected the overall district score.
801
00:41:22.025 --> 00:41:26.325
You'll see at at to the right that all students is
802
00:41:26.975 --> 00:41:29.285
where we got that 10.2%.
803
00:41:29.705 --> 00:41:32.165
But when you start looking at some of our learner groups,
804
00:41:32.535 --> 00:41:36.605
we've got some significant attention that we need to take
805
00:41:36.745 --> 00:41:40.645
to, to work on getting these learners to school.
806
00:41:42.075 --> 00:41:44.085
I've been in contact
807
00:41:44.305 --> 00:41:46.725
and working closely with the high school on this.
808
00:41:47.635 --> 00:41:50.605
They understand that this is
809
00:41:53.865 --> 00:41:55.685
an issue that needs to be attended to
810
00:41:56.545 --> 00:42:00.845
and we're working this year to put some foundations in place
811
00:42:00.945 --> 00:42:02.845
to really begin to move those numbers.
812
00:42:04.785 --> 00:42:07.155
Next slide. And it's back to you Dr. Bash.
813
00:42:07.155 --> 00:42:09.075
This is the last slide. And really we didn't wanna end
814
00:42:09.075 --> 00:42:11.875
with just a story about the data without really helping
815
00:42:11.895 --> 00:42:13.835
to make that through line to our sipps.
816
00:42:14.055 --> 00:42:15.755
Our school improvement plans are already
817
00:42:16.575 --> 00:42:18.435
moving forward to think about these things.
818
00:42:18.435 --> 00:42:20.035
They started it even last year.
819
00:42:20.415 --> 00:42:22.075
So in reading and writing we know
820
00:42:22.075 --> 00:42:23.915
that ELA dipped and math rose.
821
00:42:23.915 --> 00:42:26.515
Well. We just launched new K to eight curriculum
822
00:42:27.055 --> 00:42:28.995
and we're teach, we're really solid.
823
00:42:29.095 --> 00:42:30.755
We told you we were gonna be solid on tier
824
00:42:30.755 --> 00:42:31.835
one and we see it every day.
825
00:42:31.835 --> 00:42:33.995
We've been learning walking the last two weeks
826
00:42:34.595 --> 00:42:36.995
and we're seeing beautiful improvements there.
827
00:42:37.405 --> 00:42:40.475
Grade 10, also needing to focus there.
828
00:42:40.485 --> 00:42:43.995
Grade 10 focuses in English and social studies.
829
00:42:45.085 --> 00:42:46.435
Sandy explained that that's one
830
00:42:46.435 --> 00:42:47.995
of the SIP goals there this year.
831
00:42:48.575 --> 00:42:50.995
And we're working on landing the curriculum pilot,
832
00:42:51.175 --> 00:42:53.315
the curriculum work for the high school this year as well.
833
00:42:54.815 --> 00:42:58.715
Strong growth in grades four to eight. Growth of goals.
834
00:42:58.775 --> 00:43:00.435
We, every single one of our schools is focused
835
00:43:00.435 --> 00:43:01.635
on growth in their SIP plans.
836
00:43:02.215 --> 00:43:03.755
And then attendance. We just went through that.
837
00:43:04.095 --> 00:43:06.875
The new code of conduct and attendance processes we're
838
00:43:06.875 --> 00:43:07.875
hoping are gonna help with that.
839
00:43:08.335 --> 00:43:09.635
And then just tracking progress.
840
00:43:09.695 --> 00:43:12.115
One of our goals this year in the operating plan is
841
00:43:12.115 --> 00:43:15.315
to deliver a plan for progress monitoring of all
842
00:43:15.315 --> 00:43:17.035
of our, of our goals.
843
00:43:17.035 --> 00:43:19.235
And so that'll be, this is our starting point for all those
844
00:43:19.235 --> 00:43:20.795
that can be measured by MCA data.
845
00:43:21.095 --> 00:43:22.875
So we have a lot going on this year
846
00:43:23.375 --> 00:43:25.195
and we're excited to kind of start the journey.
847
00:43:25.615 --> 00:43:28.075
But the MCAS, hopefully you saw that alignment to the goals.
848
00:43:28.075 --> 00:43:29.115
Thank you, Sandy. Great.
849
00:43:29.125 --> 00:43:31.755
Great job. And we'll take questions.
850
00:43:32.605 --> 00:43:33.955
Thank you for the presentation
851
00:43:34.375 --> 00:43:36.635
and any members of the committee with questions.
852
00:43:36.775 --> 00:43:38.195
Ms. Collins, then Ms. Corset.
853
00:43:38.765 --> 00:43:42.355
Thank you. So I understand
854
00:43:43.305 --> 00:43:45.835
that the district doesn't wanna be flagged
855
00:43:45.835 --> 00:43:48.635
for low participation, but from a student
856
00:43:48.635 --> 00:43:52.075
and family perspective, what's the real practical impact
857
00:43:53.535 --> 00:43:55.675
of being flagged for that now that there isn't
858
00:43:56.375 --> 00:43:58.315
an MCA requirement for graduation?
859
00:44:00.775 --> 00:44:02.195
Do you wanna take it or you want me to? I
860
00:44:02.195 --> 00:44:03.195
Can start.
861
00:44:03.195 --> 00:44:03.915
Yeah. Yeah, start. You can back up.
862
00:44:05.055 --> 00:44:08.395
At the high school level, there are a lot of implications
863
00:44:09.305 --> 00:44:13.475
that MCA scores can attribute to things
864
00:44:14.145 --> 00:44:18.155
like scholarships, the sealed bi by literacy,
865
00:44:19.845 --> 00:44:20.955
those types of things.
866
00:44:21.275 --> 00:44:25.475
I think it's also important for students
867
00:44:25.575 --> 00:44:29.275
to understand that this is also part
868
00:44:29.295 --> 00:44:30.835
of supporting your community
869
00:44:31.945 --> 00:44:33.885
and that accountability matters.
870
00:44:35.745 --> 00:44:36.805
You wanna add anything?
871
00:44:37.305 --> 00:44:38.885
No, I mean, I think you answered well
872
00:44:39.225 --> 00:44:40.885
and you answered earlier kind of in terms
873
00:44:40.885 --> 00:44:42.485
of the learning loss for the individual.
874
00:44:42.595 --> 00:44:44.685
Yeah. It as a practical matter,
875
00:44:44.745 --> 00:44:47.725
it does impact our accountability when we all wanna be,
876
00:44:47.825 --> 00:44:48.925
we hear questions all the time.
877
00:44:49.065 --> 00:44:50.925
Why aren't we at the top of this list? Why aren't we?
878
00:44:50.995 --> 00:44:53.525
Well, when we don't miss, when we miss on participation,
879
00:44:53.785 --> 00:44:55.565
we literally lower our accountability.
880
00:44:56.505 --> 00:44:58.325
So that's a system level answer.
881
00:44:58.345 --> 00:45:00.405
The individual is, I think most importantly
882
00:45:00.405 --> 00:45:01.685
missed learning or missed opportunities.
883
00:45:02.115 --> 00:45:05.085
Okay. I I, I wanna come back
884
00:45:05.085 --> 00:45:06.685
to the missed learning part part in one second.
885
00:45:06.785 --> 00:45:09.485
I'm just trying to figure out if I didn't go in for a day,
886
00:45:09.485 --> 00:45:12.005
you were testing me, I wasn't gonna learn anything anyway.
887
00:45:12.595 --> 00:45:15.685
Well, they can take m they can take multiple opportunities
888
00:45:15.705 --> 00:45:17.245
to do a, a missed test.
889
00:45:17.315 --> 00:45:21.645
It's a makeup session. So this is something Yeah, they can,
890
00:45:21.785 --> 00:45:25.365
but they test for a month so they can come and rema redo it.
891
00:45:25.385 --> 00:45:26.445
But I think it's important too
892
00:45:26.445 --> 00:45:29.005
that there it is linked to other things.
893
00:45:29.235 --> 00:45:32.925
Yeah. Outside of you gotta pass grade 10 to graduate.
894
00:45:33.075 --> 00:45:34.285
Yeah. That's over.
And,
895
00:45:34.465 --> 00:45:36.605
and the learning loss, I think it's important to,
896
00:45:36.825 --> 00:45:41.405
to remind people that 18 days is 10% of school days.
897
00:45:41.835 --> 00:45:46.245
Yeah. But it's 33% loss of learning. Yeah.
898
00:45:46.745 --> 00:45:50.085
So it really does make a huge difference.
899
00:45:50.115 --> 00:45:51.245
It's not linear way
Outside.
900
00:45:51.355 --> 00:45:54.285
It's not a linear Yeah. System.
901
00:45:54.305 --> 00:45:55.525
Thanks for bringing us back to that.
902
00:45:55.555 --> 00:45:57.125
It's compelling. Yeah.
903
00:45:57.785 --> 00:46:00.365
Can I ask a follow up to that question to Kathy's?
904
00:46:00.635 --> 00:46:02.325
Yeah. Question.
So
905
00:46:03.415 --> 00:46:06.445
Kathy, you, she just brought up a point of, you know, the,
906
00:46:06.985 --> 00:46:09.125
the students aren't, that aren't taking the MAS
907
00:46:09.945 --> 00:46:12.125
and then you mentioned that they have multiple CHO
908
00:46:12.195 --> 00:46:13.205
chances to take it.
909
00:46:13.705 --> 00:46:16.445
So are they just saying, no, I don't wanna take it?
910
00:46:17.445 --> 00:46:19.885
I think that's a better question for principal blocker.
911
00:46:19.925 --> 00:46:22.605
I don't know the, i it's really individual
912
00:46:22.905 --> 00:46:24.525
and that might be something to delve into.
913
00:46:24.585 --> 00:46:25.845
I'm sure they're going to delve into it.
914
00:46:26.515 --> 00:46:28.925
Sometimes people just don't know the importance of it.
915
00:46:28.985 --> 00:46:30.565
So sometimes it's just educating
916
00:46:30.565 --> 00:46:31.685
people that this really matters.
917
00:46:33.445 --> 00:46:35.845
I wouldn't want to, I wouldn't wanna guess at it. Okay.
918
00:46:36.145 --> 00:46:37.925
But I guess initially I would thought, oh,
919
00:46:37.925 --> 00:46:39.805
they just were gone that day of school.
920
00:46:40.265 --> 00:46:42.365
No, but it sounds like No, that's not the reason.
921
00:46:42.505 --> 00:46:45.245
So there is a, there, in addition to communicating
922
00:46:45.245 --> 00:46:47.325
to parents and children or students,
923
00:46:47.535 --> 00:46:51.005
there might be an internal communication, like for example,
924
00:46:51.245 --> 00:46:53.045
tomorrow town meeting starts takes place.
925
00:46:53.465 --> 00:46:54.765
If we don't have 180 members,
926
00:46:54.855 --> 00:46:56.085
we're gonna start getting on the phone
927
00:46:56.265 --> 00:46:58.685
and being like, Hey, you need to show up.
928
00:46:58.865 --> 00:47:00.205
We can't start the meeting. Right.
929
00:47:00.865 --> 00:47:03.685
So I I just like, it seems like there's systems,
930
00:47:04.115 --> 00:47:06.925
Well, some of those systems could be added just
931
00:47:06.925 --> 00:47:08.605
because we don't wanna miss that number again.
932
00:47:08.635 --> 00:47:10.085
Yeah. And we can,
933
00:47:10.145 --> 00:47:13.005
we can certainly have bigger conversations about that with
934
00:47:13.005 --> 00:47:14.805
how they're operationalizing kind of addressing this.
935
00:47:15.045 --> 00:47:16.125
'cause they, we don't wanna be in that.
936
00:47:16.465 --> 00:47:18.365
We don't wanna lose those points again. Yeah.
937
00:47:20.025 --> 00:47:23.765
All set. I'm sorry, Ms. Goeth. And then Dr.
938
00:47:24.045 --> 00:47:25.805
Fuman.
Thank you. So I had, I had two questions.
939
00:47:26.345 --> 00:47:29.885
The first one is about high school and the accountability.
940
00:47:30.145 --> 00:47:32.085
Accountability score, not accountability.
941
00:47:32.225 --> 00:47:33.765
The growth scores in high school.
942
00:47:34.645 --> 00:47:35.805
I understand kind of
943
00:47:35.805 --> 00:47:38.245
how you use growth scores at the lower grades to kind
944
00:47:38.245 --> 00:47:40.645
of like provide like interventions.
945
00:47:41.225 --> 00:47:43.485
But how does that work in high school where people are, like
946
00:47:43.665 --> 00:47:45.325
for example, taking different math classes?
947
00:47:45.595 --> 00:47:48.885
Like how would you use the growth score data to inform
948
00:47:49.675 --> 00:47:51.685
high school interventions or,
949
00:47:55.445 --> 00:47:58.885
I don't know that growth scores necessarily inform,
950
00:47:59.225 --> 00:48:01.725
always inform interventions to me.
951
00:48:04.175 --> 00:48:06.845
We're, we're just missing an opportunity if we're having our
952
00:48:06.845 --> 00:48:09.805
kids basically grow lower than
953
00:48:10.265 --> 00:48:11.445
the median point of the state.
954
00:48:13.065 --> 00:48:16.445
Is it you could, I'm gonna say it more myself as a teacher,
955
00:48:17.705 --> 00:48:19.485
you know, it's, it's really hard to kind of keep
956
00:48:19.485 --> 00:48:21.165
that momentum and keep people interested and
957
00:48:21.265 --> 00:48:24.165
and dedicated to, to trying their best.
958
00:48:24.365 --> 00:48:25.885
Whether it's through HQIM,
959
00:48:25.995 --> 00:48:27.725
high quality curricular materials,
960
00:48:27.725 --> 00:48:29.645
motivation, whatever it may be.
961
00:48:30.305 --> 00:48:32.925
But the fact is what those numbers our kids are learning,
962
00:48:33.625 --> 00:48:35.325
you know, making less growth than the
963
00:48:35.325 --> 00:48:36.445
average person in the state.
964
00:48:37.145 --> 00:48:39.885
So that's a meta measure as opposed to like how
965
00:48:39.885 --> 00:48:41.005
to inform an intervention.
966
00:48:41.425 --> 00:48:44.125
You could inform interventions on how they did question
967
00:48:44.145 --> 00:48:45.445
by question on the content,
968
00:48:46.305 --> 00:48:48.165
but I don't know that I would do it on the growth score.
969
00:48:49.865 --> 00:48:52.885
So that's really helpful. So does that happen then?
970
00:48:53.005 --> 00:48:54.445
I guess I'm, I feel like,
971
00:48:55.125 --> 00:48:57.165
I feel like we've heard a lot about data teams like
972
00:48:57.165 --> 00:48:58.285
elementary and middle school,
973
00:48:58.545 --> 00:49:00.525
but maybe not so much about how
974
00:49:00.675 --> 00:49:02.365
that data is used at the high school.
975
00:49:02.545 --> 00:49:03.925
And maybe there's not an answer
976
00:49:03.925 --> 00:49:05.245
tonight, but that's something She's
977
00:49:05.245 --> 00:49:06.245
Got it.
978
00:49:06.245 --> 00:49:07.685
You, you can see the perfect question
979
00:49:07.785 --> 00:49:08.925
for her. Okay. Alright. Awesome.
980
00:49:09.435 --> 00:49:11.325
Love it. Over to lemon. It didn't show at all.
981
00:49:12.825 --> 00:49:17.765
So the, that sip goal that the math
982
00:49:19.135 --> 00:49:22.165
department worked on two years ago talked
983
00:49:22.825 --> 00:49:25.965
or focused a lot on the fact that
984
00:49:27.305 --> 00:49:29.245
our ninth graders take algebra
985
00:49:29.425 --> 00:49:31.485
and then our 10th graders take geometry,
986
00:49:31.505 --> 00:49:35.045
but then they don't sort of cycle back to the algebra
987
00:49:35.705 --> 00:49:38.725
and then they go into algebra two their junior year.
988
00:49:39.145 --> 00:49:42.405
And we were seeing when we looked at the data
989
00:49:42.465 --> 00:49:47.165
and the questions that our 10th graders who take the MCAS
990
00:49:47.165 --> 00:49:49.885
for math, were not doing well in algebra.
991
00:49:50.465 --> 00:49:54.485
So what they did is they focused on strategies that would
992
00:49:55.015 --> 00:49:59.645
cycle the algebra back into geometry, as well
993
00:49:59.645 --> 00:50:01.205
as things like warmups
994
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and, you know, quick reviews of algebra concepts that they
995
00:50:07.705 --> 00:50:11.005
needed to sort of keep fresh and not take a a year off.
996
00:50:11.005 --> 00:50:13.445
Essentially. That's the reason why we had
997
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the bump last year.
998
00:50:15.195 --> 00:50:17.605
It's another reason why we had the bump this year.
999
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So that's alive and well.
1000
00:50:20.425 --> 00:50:24.725
So they have infused that in their geo the algebra into sort
1001
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of geometry to just keep it
1002
00:50:27.215 --> 00:50:28.965
there at the front of their minds.
1003
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And they're now working on strategies
1004
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for formative assessment
1005
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and progress monitoring those
1006
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every, every fall.
1007
00:50:42.065 --> 00:50:46.165
The department heads work with the departments
1008
00:50:46.305 --> 00:50:51.045
to take apart the content on MCA to see
1009
00:50:52.335 --> 00:50:53.925
areas where they could strengthen.
1010
00:50:54.555 --> 00:50:56.485
Yeah. Okay. Thank you. You're welcome.
1011
00:50:57.065 --> 00:50:59.165
May I ask my other question? Yes, please.
1012
00:50:59.485 --> 00:51:01.445
So it was about chronic absenteeism
1013
00:51:02.025 --> 00:51:07.005
and just, just a question about how you define that.
1014
00:51:07.555 --> 00:51:09.925
Like does that include students
1015
00:51:10.145 --> 00:51:13.245
who may have an accommodation for some kind of health issue
1016
00:51:13.245 --> 00:51:14.805
where they're only attending school part-time?
1017
00:51:14.835 --> 00:51:15.925
Sure. Are they counted?
1018
00:51:16.315 --> 00:51:18.285
They are. Okay. Yep. As chronic.
1019
00:51:18.465 --> 00:51:20.085
If you're not in a, if you're not
1020
00:51:20.085 --> 00:51:22.045
in the seat, you're not learning. Okay. Just
1021
00:51:22.045 --> 00:51:23.725
That I just wanted to know that. Thank you. Yeah,
1022
00:51:23.725 --> 00:51:26.125
You're welcome. Dr. Fugman.
1023
00:51:26.545 --> 00:51:29.205
And then Ms. Pernell, thank you
1024
00:51:29.205 --> 00:51:30.405
so much for this presentation.
1025
00:51:31.965 --> 00:51:34.685
I have, I guess it's a comment slash question.
1026
00:51:34.795 --> 00:51:36.525
Well, I have two questions, but the first one is,
1027
00:51:36.995 --> 00:51:41.525
it's a comment really about addressing
1028
00:51:42.065 --> 00:51:43.605
the gaps that are there.
1029
00:51:44.245 --> 00:51:45.485
I completely agree with Dr.
1030
00:51:45.705 --> 00:51:49.685
Sp it is addressing those achievement gaps are
1031
00:51:50.355 --> 00:51:52.925
obviously a challenge that educators across the country are,
1032
00:51:53.435 --> 00:51:56.045
have been addressing it and will continue to address.
1033
00:51:56.865 --> 00:51:58.765
And it's, it's both very challenging
1034
00:51:58.905 --> 00:52:00.445
but also very important.
1035
00:52:00.945 --> 00:52:03.885
And I'm really, I just wanna express my appreciation
1036
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for the fact that we're we're going there, that we're,
1037
00:52:06.575 --> 00:52:08.525
we're noticing those gaps.
1038
00:52:08.985 --> 00:52:11.885
No one likes to see them, but if we don't see them
1039
00:52:11.885 --> 00:52:12.885
and if we don't call them out
1040
00:52:12.885 --> 00:52:15.405
and if we don't address them, they're not gonna go away.
1041
00:52:16.265 --> 00:52:17.365
And that's just not right.
1042
00:52:19.125 --> 00:52:21.965
I, I was gonna ask, but then I saw the very last slide.
1043
00:52:22.635 --> 00:52:23.725
What are some of the specific,
1044
00:52:23.725 --> 00:52:25.005
you know, if you can share Dr.
1045
00:52:25.185 --> 00:52:28.445
SP or others, what are some of the strategies
1046
00:52:28.445 --> 00:52:30.045
that we're gonna be putting in place in order
1047
00:52:30.145 --> 00:52:34.725
to achieve those goals around closing gaps?
1048
00:52:35.125 --> 00:52:36.285
I know that you said seven out
1049
00:52:36.285 --> 00:52:38.445
of the seven schools have them in their plans,
1050
00:52:38.785 --> 00:52:42.085
but I'm curious if there's some kind of general patterns or,
1051
00:52:42.145 --> 00:52:45.765
or general ideas of strategies
1052
00:52:45.765 --> 00:52:47.205
that we're gonna be seeing
1053
00:52:48.675 --> 00:52:51.925
that we're gonna be putting in place Yep.
1054
00:52:51.945 --> 00:52:53.405
In the coming months. And
1055
00:52:53.685 --> 00:52:56.285
I can start, and I know Sandy's gonna take over vice we'll
1056
00:52:56.285 --> 00:52:59.325
share, we both get excited about data.
1057
00:52:59.845 --> 00:53:01.765
I think first and foremost it's naming it
1058
00:53:02.905 --> 00:53:07.085
and I wanna deeply credit this, our whole community
1059
00:53:08.105 --> 00:53:09.205
for kind of embracing it.
1060
00:53:09.315 --> 00:53:10.685
It's not easy to see this.
1061
00:53:11.025 --> 00:53:12.605
And I think there's been a lot of grace
1062
00:53:12.665 --> 00:53:14.285
and kind of inquiry in it.
1063
00:53:14.345 --> 00:53:16.645
And so I'm grateful for, for that.
1064
00:53:17.785 --> 00:53:19.525
So first naming it, showing the data,
1065
00:53:19.805 --> 00:53:21.325
building the data literacy around it.
1066
00:53:22.085 --> 00:53:26.365
I think the SIP plans are a massive focus on this.
1067
00:53:26.665 --> 00:53:29.045
If you remember the SIT plans focus on the lowest
1068
00:53:29.045 --> 00:53:30.125
25th percentile.
1069
00:53:30.355 --> 00:53:31.405
That is a strategy.
1070
00:53:31.905 --> 00:53:34.885
And behind that strategy, if you were to ask principals,
1071
00:53:35.195 --> 00:53:37.645
they're, they're asking for conferences
1072
00:53:37.715 --> 00:53:39.165
with students who are performing there.
1073
00:53:39.235 --> 00:53:42.125
They are ensuring that that formative assessment
1074
00:53:42.185 --> 00:53:45.045
or checking how kids are doing in class are focused on
1075
00:53:45.045 --> 00:53:46.085
the kids who are in that group.
1076
00:53:46.355 --> 00:53:48.485
They literally know who the kids are.
1077
00:53:48.555 --> 00:53:50.405
It's not something they're exposing to everybody,
1078
00:53:50.425 --> 00:53:52.685
but they know so that they have eyes on it
1079
00:53:52.685 --> 00:53:55.285
and they're tracking that data, which is a strategy.
1080
00:53:55.345 --> 00:53:57.365
So a lot of data focused strategies.
1081
00:53:57.585 --> 00:54:01.485
But I'd also say on the kind of 50,000 for 30,000 foot view,
1082
00:54:02.275 --> 00:54:05.725
it's been our very intentional instructional focus,
1083
00:54:05.975 --> 00:54:09.525
which was new and we kind of launched it starting last year.
1084
00:54:09.545 --> 00:54:10.885
We call it formative assessment,
1085
00:54:11.625 --> 00:54:14.325
but it's a, a trajectory of sort of ensuring
1086
00:54:14.875 --> 00:54:17.165
that we have high quality curricular materials
1087
00:54:17.165 --> 00:54:21.285
that are proficient or higher as rated by objective people.
1088
00:54:22.225 --> 00:54:26.605
And that we are teaching tasks and text aligned to that.
1089
00:54:27.025 --> 00:54:29.125
And that we are gonna use a little jargon,
1090
00:54:29.125 --> 00:54:30.845
but we're appropriately scaffolding
1091
00:54:30.845 --> 00:54:33.285
or we're appropriately kind of pushing kids up.
1092
00:54:33.655 --> 00:54:35.605
We're doing remedial work for people
1093
00:54:35.605 --> 00:54:37.885
who may be stuck based on data.
1094
00:54:38.665 --> 00:54:42.165
So the next layer of that is that we're actually asking kids
1095
00:54:42.345 --> 00:54:44.045
and checking with kids on how they're doing
1096
00:54:44.045 --> 00:54:45.405
during the course of a lesson.
1097
00:54:45.905 --> 00:54:47.325
And then we're responding to that.
1098
00:54:47.465 --> 00:54:49.045
If we see a kid who's nailing
1099
00:54:49.045 --> 00:54:50.245
it, give them something higher.
1100
00:54:50.585 --> 00:54:52.965
If we see a kid who's struggling, give them something,
1101
00:54:53.065 --> 00:54:55.405
you know, help them lead up to that mastery.
1102
00:54:55.425 --> 00:54:58.405
So long answer, but that's our instructional vision.
1103
00:54:58.425 --> 00:54:59.645
It will not be done in a year.
1104
00:54:59.705 --> 00:55:01.405
It takes years to do what I just said.
1105
00:55:02.045 --> 00:55:04.085
But we have a lot of momentum behind it.
1106
00:55:04.145 --> 00:55:06.205
And we're, we have a lot in our operating plan
1107
00:55:06.205 --> 00:55:08.045
around the communities of practice,
1108
00:55:08.265 --> 00:55:09.605
the ED leadership cohort, all
1109
00:55:09.605 --> 00:55:10.645
the things we've been talking about.
1110
00:55:10.995 --> 00:55:13.045
It's all sort of this sweater that's being knit together.
1111
00:55:13.105 --> 00:55:15.245
And we can't quite see what it's gonna look like yet.
1112
00:55:15.265 --> 00:55:17.845
But trust me, it's coming at the end of this, I'm gonna,
1113
00:55:17.845 --> 00:55:19.485
we're all gonna get the same sweater Okay.
1114
00:55:19.485 --> 00:55:23.525
In 2031. But those are really the three main
1115
00:55:23.525 --> 00:55:24.725
strategies I'd mention.
1116
00:55:24.985 --> 00:55:26.325
And if you wanna add Sandy,
1117
00:55:27.045 --> 00:55:31.845
I I think the, I think the most
1118
00:55:32.845 --> 00:55:36.805
salient point for me is how committed
1119
00:55:37.545 --> 00:55:41.765
and curious our principles are to dig into this work.
1120
00:55:41.995 --> 00:55:43.445
They're, they're ready.
1121
00:55:44.785 --> 00:55:48.205
And I think the conversations I'm having about unpacking the
1122
00:55:48.205 --> 00:55:51.925
accountability report, unpacking MCAS, unpacking
1123
00:55:54.065 --> 00:55:58.445
how they're related and who in the bottom 25
1124
00:55:58.745 --> 00:56:00.605
or the lowest 25 percentile
1125
00:56:02.305 --> 00:56:06.765
really brings it alive for each school.
1126
00:56:07.105 --> 00:56:09.765
And I think the commitment
1127
00:56:09.995 --> 00:56:14.125
that they're making in their school improvement goal really
1128
00:56:14.305 --> 00:56:16.485
allows their entire staff
1129
00:56:18.345 --> 00:56:19.845
to see themselves in that goal.
1130
00:56:21.145 --> 00:56:25.805
And when you have that kind of teacher efficacy, sorry,
1131
00:56:25.915 --> 00:56:30.125
more jargon, but if everyone believes that everyone can,
1132
00:56:30.745 --> 00:56:32.565
and we teach that way
1133
00:56:32.625 --> 00:56:37.085
and we reach our, our students, then we can do nothing
1134
00:56:37.225 --> 00:56:38.445
but, but improve.
1135
00:56:38.665 --> 00:56:43.365
So the, the commitment
1136
00:56:44.145 --> 00:56:47.325
and the inquiry of how can we,
1137
00:56:47.625 --> 00:56:50.805
how can we really attack this is quite prevalent.
1138
00:56:51.715 --> 00:56:53.445
Yeah. All the way up. Yep.
1139
00:56:55.225 --> 00:56:57.885
So thank you for that. And, and my, I truly,
1140
00:56:57.985 --> 00:57:00.765
my deep appreciation for the fact that we are tackling this
1141
00:57:00.765 --> 00:57:03.845
and the commitment, Sandy, that you pointed out
1142
00:57:03.845 --> 00:57:06.125
of the principles is, is certainly admirable.
1143
00:57:07.145 --> 00:57:11.125
And I, and I do hope I get a sweater someday 2031.
1144
00:57:11.125 --> 00:57:12.845
I'll, I'll promise I'll come ask for that sweater.
1145
00:57:14.945 --> 00:57:19.045
My, my other questions about
1146
00:57:19.365 --> 00:57:20.925
chronic absenteeism.
1147
00:57:21.585 --> 00:57:23.645
So I'm a mixed methods kind of guy.
1148
00:57:24.745 --> 00:57:26.805
So I'd like to know not only,
1149
00:57:27.225 --> 00:57:29.405
and maybe that the answers aren't there yet,
1150
00:57:29.505 --> 00:57:32.645
but not only what are the numbers quantitatively of
1151
00:57:33.235 --> 00:57:35.765
absenteeism, but have we been asking
1152
00:57:35.865 --> 00:57:39.605
and do we have any sense of what are some of the root causes
1153
00:57:39.945 --> 00:57:42.365
of chronic absenteeism?
1154
00:57:42.465 --> 00:57:44.765
I'm assuming there's not one single root cause
1155
00:57:45.705 --> 00:57:49.765
but you know, there's things like, you know, school anxiety,
1156
00:57:49.795 --> 00:57:51.005
kids not coming because they're
1157
00:57:51.005 --> 00:57:52.085
anxious about coming to school.
1158
00:57:52.355 --> 00:57:55.445
Yeah. Or, you know, all, all kinds
1159
00:57:55.445 --> 00:57:57.365
of reasons why students might not come to school.
1160
00:57:57.905 --> 00:58:00.725
I'm wondering if we, we are, if we've, we have identified
1161
00:58:00.725 --> 00:58:03.285
or we plan to identify any kind of patterns
1162
00:58:03.705 --> 00:58:06.405
to better understand some of the root causes of
1163
00:58:07.595 --> 00:58:08.805
chronic absenteeism.
1164
00:58:09.395 --> 00:58:12.965
Want me to start? Sure. Great question.
1165
00:58:13.425 --> 00:58:15.445
And your question gets it like how do you fix it?
1166
00:58:15.595 --> 00:58:17.765
Yeah, yeah. In a relational way,
1167
00:58:17.855 --> 00:58:19.045
which is the right question.
1168
00:58:19.835 --> 00:58:21.445
What I would say is it can really vary
1169
00:58:21.445 --> 00:58:22.845
differently by grade band.
1170
00:58:23.845 --> 00:58:26.205
I would say each school might even have its own story.
1171
00:58:27.325 --> 00:58:29.245
I think, I don't wanna be presumptuous
1172
00:58:29.705 --> 00:58:31.445
and name it these things here
1173
00:58:31.595 --> 00:58:34.005
because we haven't, we are just starting these goals.
1174
00:58:34.625 --> 00:58:37.205
But I would think if the school committee would like,
1175
00:58:37.745 --> 00:58:39.605
we could invite Danny LeBlanc
1176
00:58:39.605 --> 00:58:41.085
and the team from Behe here
1177
00:58:41.305 --> 00:58:44.205
to give him a pri give a primer on how they change.
1178
00:58:44.585 --> 00:58:47.205
So we have a beautiful story in the district of a school
1179
00:58:47.205 --> 00:58:50.245
that literally cut their chronic absenteeism in half.
1180
00:58:50.745 --> 00:58:53.445
So I'm sure they know exactly what the root causes were
1181
00:58:53.445 --> 00:58:55.405
for their school, which you could scale
1182
00:58:55.425 --> 00:58:57.765
and say generalize to the district or maybe not.
1183
00:58:57.765 --> 00:58:59.645
It's elementary. Elementary is very
1184
00:58:59.645 --> 00:59:00.805
different than high school.
1185
00:59:01.425 --> 00:59:02.725
But it's a great story
1186
00:59:02.745 --> 00:59:05.245
and I've encouraged anybody else who has a similar goal
1187
00:59:05.505 --> 00:59:08.445
to go learn from them and sort of see what they wanna keep.
1188
00:59:08.645 --> 00:59:09.965
'cause they basically have a playbook.
1189
00:59:10.345 --> 00:59:13.285
But I think it would also help for the committee for you
1190
00:59:13.285 --> 00:59:16.365
to see kind of how we literally can take some data
1191
00:59:16.865 --> 00:59:20.205
and a beautiful plan with great commitment over the course
1192
00:59:20.205 --> 00:59:22.685
of a year and nail the goal, which they did.
1193
00:59:23.185 --> 00:59:24.885
And so if you'd wanna see that, I think
1194
00:59:24.885 --> 00:59:26.605
that would bring it alive for one school
1195
00:59:27.835 --> 00:59:29.245
instead of me guessing at it.
1196
00:59:29.365 --> 00:59:31.325
I, I could guess at it based on my own experience,
1197
00:59:31.325 --> 00:59:32.845
but I don't know that I'd do it justice
1198
00:59:33.105 --> 00:59:34.165
and I wouldn't wanna get it wrong.
1199
00:59:36.225 --> 00:59:41.085
And I would say that I'm engaged in those very questions
1200
00:59:41.555 --> 00:59:43.045
with the deans and VPs
1201
00:59:43.105 --> 00:59:45.445
and principal blocker up at the high school.
1202
00:59:45.665 --> 00:59:50.365
And we're working on some processes to begin
1203
00:59:50.365 --> 00:59:54.125
to delve into that very question that you're asking.
1204
00:59:55.195 --> 00:59:56.685
It's,
It's actually important
1205
00:59:56.685 --> 00:59:58.565
to say principal blocker wrote to me
1206
00:59:58.565 --> 01:00:00.365
and asked me to put her in touch with the high school
1207
01:00:00.385 --> 01:00:02.525
and the superintendent of another district who's,
1208
01:00:03.095 --> 01:00:05.445
who's just nailing their absenteeism at the high school
1209
01:00:05.445 --> 01:00:07.045
level, which is a different challenge.
1210
01:00:07.385 --> 01:00:09.325
So some, she doesn't have as many,
1211
01:00:09.505 --> 01:00:10.765
we don't have more than one high school.
1212
01:00:11.065 --> 01:00:12.645
So sometimes you have to go to other people.
1213
01:00:12.665 --> 01:00:14.445
So we're casting a wide net
1214
01:00:14.905 --> 01:00:16.685
and each school has a different story.
1215
01:00:18.585 --> 01:00:20.605
Thanks for that answer. I appreciate the fact
1216
01:00:20.605 --> 01:00:22.125
that we are working on figuring it out
1217
01:00:22.125 --> 01:00:25.085
and that at least one of our schools figured it out.
1218
01:00:25.085 --> 01:00:26.125
Yeah, that's great to know.
1219
01:00:27.265 --> 01:00:29.285
Ms. Brune. Sure.
1220
01:00:29.365 --> 01:00:31.445
I just wanted to clarify something about Elisa's question
1221
01:00:32.115 --> 01:00:33.085
when you said if they're not in
1222
01:00:33.085 --> 01:00:34.205
their seat, they're not learning.
1223
01:00:34.675 --> 01:00:37.525
Does that include students who have been given a tutor
1224
01:00:37.825 --> 01:00:42.245
and we are, you know, if you, if you have a medical need
1225
01:00:42.245 --> 01:00:44.525
and you have to be outta school for a certain amount
1226
01:00:44.525 --> 01:00:48.525
of time, does So I was wondering the same thing when
1227
01:00:48.525 --> 01:00:49.605
that, when that question was answered.
1228
01:00:50.105 --> 01:00:54.205
So students who who are receiving accommodations
1229
01:00:54.345 --> 01:00:57.725
or receiving have a home hospitalization form, meaning
1230
01:00:57.725 --> 01:00:59.485
that they require from a physician,
1231
01:00:59.555 --> 01:01:00.645
that they require tutoring,
1232
01:01:01.435 --> 01:01:04.125
they are considered absent, excused.
1233
01:01:04.305 --> 01:01:08.245
Mm. So I'm, I I'm wondering how that codes with Desi.
1234
01:01:08.285 --> 01:01:10.285
I don't know the answer to need to look it, but,
1235
01:01:10.385 --> 01:01:13.485
but they are, they are, they're, they're absent excused.
1236
01:01:13.545 --> 01:01:15.605
So they're, they're not, I don't, I it I think
1237
01:01:15.605 --> 01:01:17.525
that's a different distinction than just absent.
1238
01:01:17.635 --> 01:01:19.925
Yeah. So I think that, I think you're right Okay.
1239
01:01:19.925 --> 01:01:22.165
About that. That that would not be considered chronically
1240
01:01:22.165 --> 01:01:23.925
absent because they are absent excused
1241
01:01:23.925 --> 01:01:26.325
and receiving education in an alternative method.
1242
01:01:26.555 --> 01:01:30.165
Yeah. Oh. I just hope that they not that are district.
1243
01:01:30.325 --> 01:01:31.725
'cause I know we're doing what we need to do. Yeah.
1244
01:01:31.725 --> 01:01:33.085
But I hope Desi recognizes it
1245
01:01:33.085 --> 01:01:34.805
because that's a huge part of funding.
1246
01:01:35.235 --> 01:01:36.565
Sure. And so, yep.
1247
01:01:37.225 --> 01:01:39.525
You know, and it's also a lot of effort for kids
1248
01:01:39.545 --> 01:01:40.805
who are dealing with a lot
1249
01:01:40.865 --> 01:01:43.005
of El else going on in their lives Yep.
1250
01:01:43.365 --> 01:01:44.645
To not be considered in school.
1251
01:01:44.675 --> 01:01:45.965
That would be devastating, I think.
1252
01:01:45.965 --> 01:01:48.005
And these are students who might require that for
1253
01:01:48.635 --> 01:01:50.285
interim use or for,
1254
01:01:50.285 --> 01:01:53.205
because they expect to be out of school for 14 days
1255
01:01:53.205 --> 01:01:55.725
or more throughout the year receiving some sort of treatment
1256
01:01:56.105 --> 01:01:57.165
or long-term care.
1257
01:01:57.395 --> 01:01:59.885
Yeah. They would be considered absent, excused. Okay. Yes.
1258
01:01:59.885 --> 01:02:01.045
All. So they are considered
1259
01:02:01.045 --> 01:02:02.165
present. I just looked it up. Great.
1260
01:02:02.175 --> 01:02:03.405
Great. Okay. That's good.
1261
01:02:04.705 --> 01:02:07.845
One last thing we have to fight about at the DSI level.
1262
01:02:08.525 --> 01:02:13.245
I, so slide seven I thought was really brave.
1263
01:02:15.985 --> 01:02:18.285
And this one, and maybe it's just where I am in life.
1264
01:02:18.445 --> 01:02:22.565
I like trends. I feel very remini reminiscent right
1265
01:02:22.565 --> 01:02:23.605
now. Is it slide seven?
1266
01:02:23.715 --> 01:02:26.005
Yeah. This one. Which one? Yeah, that one.
1267
01:02:26.465 --> 01:02:28.885
The slides in the PDF version aren't numbered the
1268
01:02:28.885 --> 01:02:30.005
same. Oh. So that's why I
1269
01:02:30.065 --> 01:02:31.085
That's confusing. Yeah.
1270
01:02:31.215 --> 01:02:34.565
We're getting there.
So it's the slide with the trends
1271
01:02:35.495 --> 01:02:36.495
There.
1272
01:02:36.495 --> 01:02:37.805
That one, I call it the gold bar.
1273
01:02:39.465 --> 01:02:44.125
And I mean, I, we just have to name that we're not back
1274
01:02:44.225 --> 01:02:45.525
to COVID before COVID.
1275
01:02:46.185 --> 01:02:48.485
And so this is not the time to cut funding.
1276
01:02:48.795 --> 01:02:51.525
This is not to take the time the the foot off the gas
1277
01:02:52.865 --> 01:02:54.605
and natick is not alone in this.
1278
01:02:54.805 --> 01:02:56.445
I am, I did you say on this slide
1279
01:02:56.445 --> 01:02:57.645
or someplace in the presentation
1280
01:02:57.645 --> 01:03:01.765
that only 14 districts across the state are even inching?
1281
01:03:02.105 --> 01:03:06.485
Yep. So I just, if there's any place of urgency
1282
01:03:07.105 --> 01:03:10.645
in addition to the gap slide, I think this is a call
1283
01:03:10.745 --> 01:03:13.165
for urgency because we have kids
1284
01:03:14.305 --> 01:03:16.045
who don't get five more years.
1285
01:03:17.095 --> 01:03:18.845
Right. Like this is their time.
1286
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And if, if there is something systematically that we need
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to do, I know that we're gonna do everything
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that we can possible.
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01:03:28.745 --> 01:03:31.085
But it's, I think it's just like a, as much
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as the strategic plan is a north star,
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01:03:34.085 --> 01:03:36.685
I hope this is the gas that's gonna help get us
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to the north store and just motivate us that, you know, that
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01:03:41.865 --> 01:03:46.325
we have kids who deserve our attention
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01:03:46.625 --> 01:03:47.765
and everything.
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01:03:47.765 --> 01:03:49.685
And I, I know that I'm speaking to the choir here,
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but it's just, it's just concerning.
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So speaking about grade 10, I,
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I was wondering about the ELA grade 10 because of the,
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and not, not on this slide in particular,
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but the growth slide that you showed
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01:04:06.015 --> 01:04:09.295
before, is that an indication
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that the ninth grade could be stronger
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01:04:15.555 --> 01:04:19.815
or is that a indication that the cohort could be struggling.
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Mm.
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01:04:22.595 --> 01:04:23.775
So high school's a little bit
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of a different beast than grades three through eight,
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because in grades three through eight you can see each year
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because they're tested each year.
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01:04:31.125 --> 01:04:34.735
Yeah. And then the science is taken in ninth grade,
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even though they call it 10th.
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And then, oh, the te
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and then in 10th grade they take the math
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01:04:41.995 --> 01:04:44.255
and the ELA again.
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01:04:44.555 --> 01:04:47.975
So you are seeing a score
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of a group of students.
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01:04:50.035 --> 01:04:55.015
So when you saw the closing gap slide that Dr.
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SP referred to that wouldn't report the LS
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'cause it was fewer than 10 students.
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Yeah. That can also affect what we're seeing for growth.
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It can also affect what we're allowed to report.
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So when that class matriculates to 11th grade,
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a new set of students comes in.
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If it's more than 10, we can report on it.
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If it's less than 10, we can't,
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we track those things internally.
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Yeah. But you're, what you're seeing could be,
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and I haven't dug into it, the number of students
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skewing your percentages
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because the cohort of students is so small.
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But it could also be the cohort of students coming through.
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Okay. Because the grade 10 scores in ELA in
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particular were low.
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Yeah.
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And, but, but on this slide we see that they are,
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I, I, shoot, I got, I looked at math real quickly.
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Okay. They're at 67.
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So there, there was a decline here too on this slide.
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So, okay. I, so this is my last question.
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The numbers are what the numbers are.
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So what is our process
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01:06:12.625 --> 01:06:17.365
and how do we confidently to say to parents, yep.
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We saw 'em, we saw those scores too.
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01:06:20.275 --> 01:06:21.765
This is what's happening with the scores.
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01:06:21.835 --> 01:06:23.445
Like what do we say about the process
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besides you being like a data wizard
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01:06:26.225 --> 01:06:29.125
and no, honestly, you are a Dr.
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01:06:29.275 --> 01:06:30.445
Bash. Like you're, you're,
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you've brought this to all the principles.
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01:06:33.145 --> 01:06:35.205
How is this trickling down to everyone?
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01:06:35.305 --> 01:06:36.725
And we see at DESI right now,
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there's the family MCA dashboard.
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Not that I've logged in, but it's available. Yeah.
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01:06:41.265 --> 01:06:44.325
So we, it sounds, it seems to me like there's a desire
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for increased literacy over data over everywhere.
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01:06:47.605 --> 01:06:52.165
But what is actually happening on the school level,
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at the classroom level?
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You know,
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My first answer to that is extremely
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strong school improvement plans.
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01:07:00.795 --> 01:07:03.245
Yeah. Which are fluently understood throughout the school.
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They literally are maybe not by students.
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Students will experience those.
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I don't know that everything should be for students.
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01:07:12.395 --> 01:07:13.845
Like some stuff is for adults.
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01:07:14.945 --> 01:07:18.085
And so that is one piece at least for kind
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of operationalizing improvement.
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01:07:20.805 --> 01:07:23.525
I think we have a lot going on in terms of landing.
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We're in our third year of that, what we're gonna do
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for curriculum in the high school for ELA speaking to ELA,
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I do think that, I think it's a good idea to bring
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some level and we'll have to figure out how to do this
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of data literacy around MCAS to the school councils.
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And I think that's something we're gonna do
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as well when we roll out surveys later this year
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where we're gonna have training from the survey writers
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who are excellent at this to come in
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and work with the school councils to explain it.
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We, that's part of the package that we purchase.
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01:07:57.285 --> 01:07:58.805
'cause we realize is data's data,
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but we really have to also understand
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01:08:00.795 --> 01:08:02.005
data in our own context.
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01:08:02.105 --> 01:08:03.605
And we have to partner with the whole
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01:08:03.685 --> 01:08:04.925
community to kind of improve it.
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01:08:05.185 --> 01:08:09.565
So I think in order to get it better understood by
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01:08:10.205 --> 01:08:13.245
families, by students, we need to be talking about it.
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01:08:13.245 --> 01:08:15.085
And a school council's a good place to start.
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01:08:15.090 --> 01:08:19.805
Start that, that it. And how about to, for
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01:08:20.085 --> 01:08:21.085
Teachers?
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01:08:21.085 --> 01:08:23.485
I, I am a high wait till I show you the memos on the
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01:08:23.485 --> 01:08:25.085
alignment of their goals to the SIP plan.
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01:08:25.205 --> 01:08:27.165
I don't know how to say it anymore. Last year they were
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01:08:27.215 --> 01:08:28.565
above 90% all of them.
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01:08:28.565 --> 01:08:30.885
Yeah. They, they understand this.
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01:08:31.585 --> 01:08:33.445
Now they've got to have the grace
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01:08:33.585 --> 01:08:36.925
and the time to work in concert with one another
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01:08:38.745 --> 01:08:42.125
as well as with students to make those improvements.
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You know, I remember being a teacher, it's really hard
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to find high quality time to collaborate.
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And that's what we need in order to kind
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of lift new curriculum
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01:08:53.385 --> 01:08:55.365
and in order to do this work
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that's heavily reliant on understanding student data.
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01:08:58.585 --> 01:09:03.405
So we, they need time is one thing I would say.
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01:09:06.065 --> 01:09:08.125
So as much as we want the fluency
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01:09:08.125 --> 01:09:12.005
and we want people to understand it, there's an urgency
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01:09:12.005 --> 01:09:14.725
around that that sometimes doesn't match the speed
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01:09:14.725 --> 01:09:15.805
at which we can make change.
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01:09:15.955 --> 01:09:18.885
Yeah. And that's just a delicate thing to understand.
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01:09:20.325 --> 01:09:24.365
I think it's also important to, to note that
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many principals not only have shared their school improve
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01:09:28.885 --> 01:09:31.005
improvement goals with their staff so
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01:09:31.005 --> 01:09:32.965
that their staff can see them in those goals.
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01:09:33.265 --> 01:09:36.925
But that particularly in the, the growth goal
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01:09:37.385 --> 01:09:42.245
of the bottom 25th percentile, that this is relatable
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01:09:42.245 --> 01:09:45.805
and, and real students that their teachers see every day,
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01:09:47.415 --> 01:09:51.365
which has more weight to it in a lot of ways
1417
01:09:51.395 --> 01:09:53.845
because of the students that are sitting in front of them
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01:09:55.995 --> 01:09:59.765
than perhaps that huge satellite view.
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01:09:59.825 --> 01:10:01.645
If you remember my, my coming
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01:10:01.645 --> 01:10:03.565
and talking about satellite map
1421
01:10:03.625 --> 01:10:07.325
and street data, it's the street data that
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01:10:08.465 --> 01:10:10.925
our teachers are super committed to in terms
1423
01:10:10.985 --> 01:10:12.405
of seeing the growth
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01:10:12.405 --> 01:10:15.885
of their students every day. That's helpful. Thank
1425
01:10:15.885 --> 01:10:16.885
You.
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01:10:16.885 --> 01:10:17.045
Yeah. Thank you for the question.
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01:10:17.785 --> 01:10:21.845
Dr. Welch, Thank you for being here.
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01:10:21.965 --> 01:10:23.405
I thank you for sharing this with us. Welcome.
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01:10:23.625 --> 01:10:25.405
One of the points of concern
1430
01:10:25.465 --> 01:10:28.245
as we've been discussing is grade 10 ELA
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01:10:28.945 --> 01:10:31.285
and the superintendent has mentioned HQIM
1432
01:10:31.285 --> 01:10:34.085
and the work that's ongoing and forthcoming.
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01:10:34.085 --> 01:10:35.765
We've talked a little bit about formative assessment.
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01:10:36.525 --> 01:10:39.205
I wanted to ask a little bit more specifically about this
1435
01:10:39.295 --> 01:10:41.205
focus on some common practices in
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01:10:41.205 --> 01:10:42.325
English and social studies.
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01:10:43.535 --> 01:10:46.445
There are of course models, other districts,
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01:10:46.445 --> 01:10:47.685
other schools have done that.
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01:10:47.865 --> 01:10:51.445
I'm wondering are, is our plan here in Natick to look at one
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01:10:51.445 --> 01:10:53.085
of those models that's happened in other schools?
1441
01:10:53.105 --> 01:10:55.205
Are we developing our own? Is it sort of a hybrid?
1442
01:10:55.315 --> 01:10:57.965
What does that look like in practice to have some
1443
01:10:57.965 --> 01:10:59.085
of these common English
1444
01:10:59.085 --> 01:11:01.165
and social studies practices to support
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01:11:02.045 --> 01:11:03.405
literacy skills for high school students?
1446
01:11:04.425 --> 01:11:07.205
So, love that question.
1447
01:11:07.435 --> 01:11:08.525
It's got about four parts,
1448
01:11:08.625 --> 01:11:10.045
so hopefully I can remember them all.
1449
01:11:10.505 --> 01:11:11.925
If not, I'm sure you'll remind me.
1450
01:11:13.285 --> 01:11:16.925
I think looking at this, this school improvement goal
1451
01:11:17.665 --> 01:11:19.045
is sort of two-pronged.
1452
01:11:19.185 --> 01:11:20.885
One is to raise the data literacy
1453
01:11:22.135 --> 01:11:25.525
among the high school staff, particularly social studies,
1454
01:11:25.945 --> 01:11:30.445
as it is not one of the big subject areas
1455
01:11:30.595 --> 01:11:32.005
that gets assessed.
1456
01:11:32.155 --> 01:11:35.005
Yeah. The other is it was rooted in data
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01:11:36.675 --> 01:11:40.565
that we triangulated, sorry for the big word.
1458
01:11:40.705 --> 01:11:44.485
We, we found data that supported
1459
01:11:45.805 --> 01:11:50.405
a theory of a, an area
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01:11:50.625 --> 01:11:54.245
of weakness of our students in general in reading
1461
01:11:54.245 --> 01:11:55.285
informational text,
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01:11:55.935 --> 01:11:58.325
Nonfiction,
Nonfiction text. Yes.
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01:11:58.715 --> 01:12:01.605
It's been a pro, it's been hard for 25 years. Correct.
1464
01:12:01.755 --> 01:12:05.325
Correct. So the, the
1465
01:12:06.555 --> 01:12:08.805
knowing that the data is saying that
1466
01:12:09.625 --> 01:12:11.805
we have internal measurements, our benchmark,
1467
01:12:11.805 --> 01:12:15.765
our renaissance benchmark assessment, which also ties to
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01:12:16.885 --> 01:12:20.925
MCAS, supported what we were seeing as well.
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01:12:21.705 --> 01:12:26.045
And the idea of coming up with
1470
01:12:26.885 --> 01:12:31.045
collaborative strategies that students are going to then see
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01:12:31.065 --> 01:12:35.245
and use over more than one classroom, for example.
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01:12:36.265 --> 01:12:39.605
And some of that is going to be developed through the goal.
1473
01:12:39.825 --> 01:12:42.445
So we didn't, we didn't identify what that strategy is.
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01:12:42.665 --> 01:12:46.445
The the staff is going to Yeah. Identify that.
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01:12:47.145 --> 01:12:49.845
So it's sort of two pronged.
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01:12:49.865 --> 01:12:53.005
One is the data literacy, one is the teaching aspect
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01:12:53.145 --> 01:12:57.525
of nonfiction, which then at
1478
01:12:58.195 --> 01:13:01.805
hopefully the, the midyear benchmarking will,
1479
01:13:02.195 --> 01:13:03.205
will show some growth.
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01:13:03.395 --> 01:13:05.805
Yeah. And that'll be formative assessments,
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01:13:05.865 --> 01:13:07.685
but also the renaissance that they're doing.
1482
01:13:08.125 --> 01:13:09.565
Absolutely. Okay.
All right. Thank
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01:13:09.565 --> 01:13:10.565
You.
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01:13:10.565 --> 01:13:11.365
A back, do you wanna add anything to that?
1485
01:13:11.745 --> 01:13:13.725
No, it's, I'm looking at just AIP
1486
01:13:13.745 --> 01:13:15.325
and it's exactly what it is.
1487
01:13:16.315 --> 01:13:18.325
Yeah. Maybe because we sat down.
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01:13:18.835 --> 01:13:23.365
Yeah, that's, you got that
Mr. Patel.
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01:13:23.705 --> 01:13:26.885
Hey, so looking at this particular slide,
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01:13:28.885 --> 01:13:32.525
I find, correct me if I'm wrong, grade 10 is the only
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01:13:33.305 --> 01:13:35.165
mc a s requirement that was changed, right?
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01:13:35.345 --> 01:13:38.645
Not the well for graduation, not the three
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01:13:38.905 --> 01:13:42.205
to eight it.
1494
01:13:42.325 --> 01:13:44.485
So those were never any requirement
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01:13:44.485 --> 01:13:45.925
for graduation. Right. Yeah. They're
1496
01:13:46.235 --> 01:13:47.805
Just taken, so grade 10 used
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01:13:47.805 --> 01:13:49.365
to be a high stakes test they call it.
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01:13:49.365 --> 01:13:50.925
Yeah. Which could impact graduation.
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01:13:51.065 --> 01:13:52.765
And so that's the only thing that changed.
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01:13:52.975 --> 01:13:55.765
Right. So, so here, that's why I feel like the ELA grades
1501
01:13:55.765 --> 01:13:58.325
three to eight seemed to be more concerning
1502
01:13:58.325 --> 01:13:59.525
to me than grade 10.
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01:13:59.765 --> 01:14:01.925
'cause in that one, there's several variables including
1504
01:14:01.925 --> 01:14:03.005
the pandemic obviously.
1505
01:14:03.385 --> 01:14:04.725
One being that it's no longer,
1506
01:14:06.085 --> 01:14:08.445
possibly no longer taken seriously by high schoolers.
1507
01:14:08.785 --> 01:14:12.805
But the grades three to eight, it's concerning to me
1508
01:14:12.805 --> 01:14:14.205
that math was able to come back.
1509
01:14:14.305 --> 01:14:18.325
But ELA wasn't from 2019
1510
01:14:19.435 --> 01:14:21.045
because that shouldn't, you know,
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01:14:21.325 --> 01:14:22.325
HQIF.
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01:14:22.325 --> 01:14:23.245
Yeah. It's the answer.
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01:14:23.845 --> 01:14:25.765
I think the answer is it's go, we're gonna be great,
1514
01:14:25.775 --> 01:14:26.925
we're gonna see a surge.
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01:14:26.945 --> 01:14:29.085
And we've give it some time because it's brand new
1516
01:14:29.185 --> 01:14:31.045
and our teachers are launching it new,
1517
01:14:31.665 --> 01:14:33.925
but we have new curricula across all
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01:14:33.925 --> 01:14:36.165
of those grades, which is high quality.
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01:14:36.625 --> 01:14:39.845
And so that I, I'm really hopeful about those usually takes,
1520
01:14:40.055 --> 01:14:42.165
we're seeing the math increases this year
1521
01:14:42.225 --> 01:14:43.645
or that year, which was year three
1522
01:14:44.065 --> 01:14:45.405
of the curriculum adoption.
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01:14:45.725 --> 01:14:46.845
I see. So it does take a few years,
1524
01:14:47.605 --> 01:14:49.925
but I think that's where you see some differential in
1525
01:14:49.925 --> 01:14:52.445
those in the performance there. I see. Yeah.
1526
01:14:52.855 --> 01:14:54.965
Thank you. A couple more questions. Sorry.
1527
01:14:54.965 --> 01:14:56.645
You mentioned Seal of Biliteracy.
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01:14:56.785 --> 01:14:58.165
I'm not familiar about that.
1529
01:14:58.425 --> 01:15:00.805
Is that, can you just someone fill me in
1530
01:15:00.805 --> 01:15:01.885
a, can you answer that Matt
1531
01:15:02.985 --> 01:15:03.985
Sue can do that?
1532
01:15:06.875 --> 01:15:10.445
Sure. So the state gives students
1533
01:15:11.405 --> 01:15:13.445
a certificate that they can use
1534
01:15:14.225 --> 01:15:16.965
in their college applications that shows
1535
01:15:17.195 --> 01:15:20.045
that they have attained a certain level of mastery
1536
01:15:20.785 --> 01:15:22.045
on the assessment.
1537
01:15:22.745 --> 01:15:26.925
So, which just gives them more
1538
01:15:28.325 --> 01:15:31.885
standing and points
1539
01:15:32.555 --> 01:15:36.885
when they apply to colleges.
1540
01:15:36.885 --> 01:15:38.965
Nice. For having seal of Biliteracy.
1541
01:15:39.265 --> 01:15:41.685
And it's actually now also
1542
01:15:43.715 --> 01:15:48.445
potentially going to be used as
1543
01:15:50.205 --> 01:15:51.445
a potential graduation
1544
01:15:52.545 --> 01:15:56.005
credit as well.
1545
01:15:56.275 --> 01:16:00.845
It's, they have not actually approved the new
1546
01:16:00.855 --> 01:16:02.765
graduation requirements yet.
1547
01:16:04.385 --> 01:16:08.125
So we, we passed a policy on our new graduation requirements
1548
01:16:08.145 --> 01:16:11.645
and now the state is coming with potentially different,
1549
01:16:12.665 --> 01:16:16.085
but Seal of Biliteracy is also one of those.
1550
01:16:16.265 --> 01:16:20.205
So while when you think of Biliteracy,
1551
01:16:20.225 --> 01:16:22.405
you automatically think of a different language,
1552
01:16:22.615 --> 01:16:24.165
which we have those as well.
1553
01:16:25.265 --> 01:16:28.485
But also thinking about students
1554
01:16:28.745 --> 01:16:31.125
who first language isn't English,
1555
01:16:31.665 --> 01:16:35.405
if they score high enough on the English MCAS,
1556
01:16:35.405 --> 01:16:38.325
they can also earn a seal of Biliteracy
1557
01:16:38.325 --> 01:16:39.765
for the English MCAS.
1558
01:16:40.145 --> 01:16:43.565
Oh, okay. I think so essentially it's a sort of motivation
1559
01:16:44.425 --> 01:16:46.445
for taking the MCAS.
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01:16:47.105 --> 01:16:49.285
Is it, is the seal light biliteracy given
1561
01:16:50.345 --> 01:16:54.085
if you score highly on the ELA portion of the MCAS? Yeah.
1562
01:16:54.545 --> 01:16:57.125
Yes. But you can also earn it in other areas.
1563
01:16:58.025 --> 01:16:59.725
Oh, okay. So it hasn't, okay.
1564
01:16:59.725 --> 01:17:04.245
It's not tied to the MCAS exclusively. Exclusively.
1565
01:17:04.435 --> 01:17:07.845
Okay. Thank you. And last question about the
1566
01:17:07.875 --> 01:17:09.205
chronic absenteeism.
1567
01:17:10.625 --> 01:17:14.125
Dr. Folkman said it differently than I would,
1568
01:17:14.125 --> 01:17:17.925
but, so is there any concentration of days
1569
01:17:17.985 --> 01:17:21.405
or months that are more absent and,
1570
01:17:21.465 --> 01:17:23.165
and do we still collect data on like
1571
01:17:23.345 --> 01:17:24.485
why the student was absent?
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01:17:24.675 --> 01:17:28.605
Like sick day vacation working or whatever?
1573
01:17:29.805 --> 01:17:31.165
I mean, we'd have to go look at the cons.
1574
01:17:31.315 --> 01:17:33.285
It's a good question. And we'd have to go look at those,
1575
01:17:34.105 --> 01:17:36.285
the concentration of days or the trends around days.
1576
01:17:36.505 --> 01:17:38.045
We don't have that today. And I wouldn't
1577
01:17:38.045 --> 01:17:39.125
feel comfortable commenting on it.
1578
01:17:39.525 --> 01:17:41.125
I actually haven't looked at that analysis here.
1579
01:17:42.905 --> 01:17:46.285
Yes, we code and power school. The reason for the absence.
1580
01:17:46.475 --> 01:17:48.245
Okay. Because power school tags.
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01:17:48.475 --> 01:17:50.045
Yeah. The reason why I ask is it may have
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01:17:50.045 --> 01:17:51.165
some calendar implications.
1583
01:17:51.165 --> 01:17:53.045
Maybe if that's a fair question, people are taking,
1584
01:17:53.745 --> 01:17:55.565
you know, Thanksgiving week off, then
1585
01:17:55.595 --> 01:17:57.205
that could be something we could consider.
1586
01:17:57.205 --> 01:18:00.925
It's easy enough to get,
So, okay. Thank you. I second
1587
01:18:00.925 --> 01:18:01.925
That.
1588
01:18:01.925 --> 01:18:04.245
So any other questions for me today?
1589
01:18:05.085 --> 01:18:06.685
Have a couple comments.
1590
01:18:07.745 --> 01:18:10.685
The members, everybody else sort of alluded
1591
01:18:10.705 --> 01:18:12.205
to some of the things that I would talk about.
1592
01:18:12.405 --> 01:18:15.365
I love a good data conversation. The slides are great.
1593
01:18:15.425 --> 01:18:16.445
The presentation was great.
1594
01:18:18.085 --> 01:18:22.245
I am always a bit skeptical or we wary.
1595
01:18:23.285 --> 01:18:25.405
I love the directionally everything about all of this.
1596
01:18:26.375 --> 01:18:27.805
There are so many variables.
1597
01:18:27.805 --> 01:18:31.525
And Jamon just mentioned that as well, that it's hard
1598
01:18:31.585 --> 01:18:33.125
to sort of under, it's different people
1599
01:18:33.275 --> 01:18:34.725
sometimes that we're comparing.
1600
01:18:34.815 --> 01:18:37.245
There are things that go on in people's lives on the days
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01:18:37.245 --> 01:18:40.165
of the tests or in the times that there's so many variables.
1602
01:18:40.625 --> 01:18:42.365
So I just have to put that out there.
1603
01:18:42.365 --> 01:18:44.285
Like, there's work to do,
1604
01:18:44.285 --> 01:18:46.805
but there's a, I don't exactly know what the number is,
1605
01:18:46.805 --> 01:18:47.965
but there is a margin of error
1606
01:18:48.745 --> 01:18:51.085
and it's, I don't know if anybody has been able
1607
01:18:51.085 --> 01:18:53.205
to ever articulate that or if it would even be possible.
1608
01:18:53.725 --> 01:18:54.965
'cause like in a science experiment,
1609
01:18:54.965 --> 01:18:57.365
there are just way too many factors to, to figure out.
1610
01:18:57.705 --> 01:19:00.405
So that creates, for me, I,
1611
01:19:00.525 --> 01:19:02.045
I wanna be really careful at how I put this.
1612
01:19:02.085 --> 01:19:04.325
I hope people understand an inherent, like lack
1613
01:19:04.325 --> 01:19:06.125
of full trust in the numbers
1614
01:19:06.435 --> 01:19:09.245
because you just don't know what the full story is.
1615
01:19:09.245 --> 01:19:12.405
There's no way to know. I think this is a beautiful told,
1616
01:19:12.635 --> 01:19:15.085
like this is as, as good as we could get in terms
1617
01:19:15.085 --> 01:19:16.805
of the presentation, but there's just a little bit
1618
01:19:17.035 --> 01:19:18.725
that we can never understand.
1619
01:19:19.675 --> 01:19:22.685
That being said, the question I have, which is on the second
1620
01:19:22.745 --> 01:19:25.005
to the second to last slide from the appendix slide.
1621
01:19:25.105 --> 01:19:26.245
So I don't know what number that is,
1622
01:19:26.705 --> 01:19:31.285
but that slide, this one, this one, this one, this one.
1623
01:19:31.285 --> 01:19:35.725
Keep going. The, the trend. This one. Perfect. Thank you.
1624
01:19:36.225 --> 01:19:39.205
So some, a lot of the other slides talk about
1625
01:19:39.305 --> 01:19:41.405
or demonstrate trends over time.
1626
01:19:42.445 --> 01:19:45.245
I am curious, and I don't need the answer now certainly,
1627
01:19:45.785 --> 01:19:48.525
but 26.7%
1628
01:19:48.745 --> 01:19:51.725
of English learners in 25 26.
1629
01:19:51.875 --> 01:19:54.205
What was that number the last time?
1630
01:19:55.185 --> 01:19:57.325
Or 26.2 for low income.
1631
01:19:57.325 --> 01:19:59.245
What was the number, like what is the trend there?
1632
01:19:59.545 --> 01:20:00.605
It would be interesting
1633
01:20:00.905 --> 01:20:04.245
to see if there was any big movement in one of those.
1634
01:20:04.425 --> 01:20:08.325
If, if the 4% came from one of those groups
1635
01:20:08.705 --> 01:20:11.125
or if it was divided across all of those groups.
1636
01:20:13.705 --> 01:20:14.885
And generally speaking,
1637
01:20:14.945 --> 01:20:18.605
and I'm not asking for this now, either raw numbers
1638
01:20:19.475 --> 01:20:22.845
like the n is, is actually perhaps more important
1639
01:20:23.945 --> 01:20:25.765
for smaller cohort sizes.
1640
01:20:26.345 --> 01:20:30.045
Yep. Because that, you know, 18.3
1641
01:20:31.615 --> 01:20:34.405
might represent a very small number of human beings,
1642
01:20:35.695 --> 01:20:38.645
which is different, a different problem to solve.
1643
01:20:38.835 --> 01:20:41.765
Perhaps more individualized than like a
1644
01:20:43.245 --> 01:20:44.285
systemic kind of thing.
1645
01:20:44.465 --> 01:20:46.445
And that kind of information I think is important.
1646
01:20:46.445 --> 01:20:49.565
Again, I do not need it now, so it's not even a question
1647
01:20:49.585 --> 01:20:52.725
unless you have thoughts on it, but I, it's not a thing.
1648
01:20:53.005 --> 01:20:54.925
I just think it's, it would be helpful.
1649
01:20:55.345 --> 01:20:57.325
We can get it. All
1650
01:20:57.325 --> 01:21:00.325
of those populations are pretty sizable, but you're right.
1651
01:21:00.425 --> 01:21:01.425
And we can get the data.
1652
01:21:03.465 --> 01:21:05.605
And so that's it for me. But Ms. Brunell has a follow up.
1653
01:21:05.715 --> 01:21:08.525
Well just, I, I got confused with the numbers right here.
1654
01:21:08.545 --> 01:21:10.085
So it's all students. So we have about
1655
01:21:10.085 --> 01:21:11.765
5,000 students in the district.
1656
01:21:12.615 --> 01:21:13.925
Right. So that's 10.
1657
01:21:14.155 --> 01:21:16.485
This is high school. So you're talking
1658
01:21:16.875 --> 01:21:17.875
1600 ish.
1659
01:21:17.875 --> 01:21:21.885
1600.
Oh it says all grades next
1660
01:21:21.885 --> 01:21:22.885
To it.
1661
01:21:22.885 --> 01:21:24.925
But the, but the on the right is all grades.
1662
01:21:25.105 --> 01:21:27.205
All grades meaning 9, 10, 11, and 12.
1663
01:21:27.545 --> 01:21:29.845
So this whole slide is focused on high school.
1664
01:21:30.065 --> 01:21:34.285
Gotcha.
Oh, I thought we had 10% absentee rate
1665
01:21:34.285 --> 01:21:35.285
for the whole district.
1666
01:21:36.625 --> 01:21:38.045
We do 10.2. Yes.
1667
01:21:38.195 --> 01:21:41.485
Okay. So we have about 500 kids in Natick
1668
01:21:41.945 --> 01:21:43.845
who are absent more than 18 days.
1669
01:21:43.915 --> 01:21:45.085
Yeah. Yeah. So
1670
01:21:45.085 --> 01:21:48.445
that's a public service announcement to send your kid to school.
1671
01:21:48.785 --> 01:21:50.405
Aren't you guys doing your goals in a few minutes?
1672
01:21:50.825 --> 01:21:52.325
Yes.
Lots of those
1673
01:21:53.905 --> 01:21:54.905
All
Set.
1674
01:21:54.905 --> 01:21:55.445
I just want, yeah, I just got confused
1675
01:21:55.445 --> 01:21:56.725
with the numbers. Okay, thank you.
1676
01:21:57.385 --> 01:22:01.125
All right then. We are good.
1677
01:22:01.255 --> 01:22:02.725
Thank you. With
1678
01:22:02.725 --> 01:22:03.725
That topic.
1679
01:22:03.725 --> 01:22:05.485
Thank you. Okay.
1680
01:22:06.085 --> 01:22:08.005
B before we do the next thing. Yeah.
1681
01:22:08.105 --> 01:22:09.925
Can I just make one quick reminder?
1682
01:22:10.905 --> 01:22:13.565
So we're gonna thank you Ms. Lemon.
1683
01:22:14.575 --> 01:22:16.645
We're gonna do the moral education program
1684
01:22:18.655 --> 01:22:22.325
draft presentation now, just as a reminder
1685
01:22:22.905 --> 01:22:24.005
for this conversation,
1686
01:22:24.005 --> 01:22:25.845
we're gonna get a presentation from the district.
1687
01:22:25.845 --> 01:22:28.605
There'll be questions, opportunities for questions
1688
01:22:28.605 --> 01:22:29.805
or comment from members of the committee.
1689
01:22:29.825 --> 01:22:32.685
We will not take questions or comments from the public.
1690
01:22:32.755 --> 01:22:36.165
That will be next week at the meeting on Monday.
1691
01:22:37.035 --> 01:22:40.285
Okay, great. Alright.
1692
01:22:46.365 --> 01:22:49.085
I put my, oh my god, that's a great pen.
1693
01:22:50.395 --> 01:22:53.085
Okay, we have a few people presenting tonight with this
1694
01:22:53.085 --> 01:22:55.685
and a few people just here able to answer any questions.
1695
01:22:55.685 --> 01:22:57.125
We're excited for sort of
1696
01:22:57.125 --> 01:22:58.645
what we're considering meeting one.
1697
01:22:59.265 --> 01:23:01.445
So tonight we're sharing and we're pulling it up.
1698
01:23:01.445 --> 01:23:03.645
But I'm gonna speak to just kind of the cover slide. First.
1699
01:23:04.215 --> 01:23:05.565
We're sharing the first draft
1700
01:23:05.585 --> 01:23:07.205
of memorial's education program.
1701
01:23:08.035 --> 01:23:10.445
It's a component of the feasibility phase
1702
01:23:10.825 --> 01:23:13.165
of the MSBA a's process or module three.
1703
01:23:13.825 --> 01:23:17.245
It describes the learning experiences we want for children
1704
01:23:17.425 --> 01:23:19.645
and teachers and the spaces needed to support them.
1705
01:23:20.355 --> 01:23:22.845
It's the one document that's truly created
1706
01:23:22.865 --> 01:23:25.965
by the school department to guide the design
1707
01:23:25.985 --> 01:23:28.445
and build to meet the educational needs of our students.
1708
01:23:29.265 --> 01:23:32.125
The draft reflects the school's perspective informed
1709
01:23:32.125 --> 01:23:33.205
by district priorities
1710
01:23:33.265 --> 01:23:35.125
and the experience of the people who work
1711
01:23:35.125 --> 01:23:36.165
with students every day.
1712
01:23:36.245 --> 01:23:38.165
I know the memorial team, Karen will probably go through
1713
01:23:38.165 --> 01:23:40.005
that, their kind of engagement in this.
1714
01:23:41.285 --> 01:23:43.845
I wanna note that once the architect is under
1715
01:23:44.165 --> 01:23:45.405
contract, they're not yet.
1716
01:23:45.465 --> 01:23:48.645
But once they are, which we anticipate will happen fairly
1717
01:23:48.755 --> 01:23:51.205
soon, we will further refine this document together.
1718
01:23:51.465 --> 01:23:53.285
And I anticipate that to happen prior
1719
01:23:53.285 --> 01:23:54.725
to the vote on November 2nd.
1720
01:23:55.265 --> 01:23:56.725
And our responsibility now is
1721
01:23:56.725 --> 01:23:58.685
to clearly describe our educational needs.
1722
01:23:58.865 --> 01:24:01.845
And if we do add anything based on the architect's input,
1723
01:24:01.845 --> 01:24:02.765
we'll make sure to be very
1724
01:24:02.765 --> 01:24:04.205
transparent with the committee about that.
1725
01:24:04.385 --> 01:24:05.445
Before the final vote,
1726
01:24:07.405 --> 01:24:08.675
Would you add anything to that matter?
1727
01:24:08.695 --> 01:24:09.955
That's appropriate. Okay, good.
1728
01:24:14.425 --> 01:24:16.555
It's
Called memorial school. It, yeah.
1729
01:24:18.815 --> 01:24:23.795
Oh, weird buffering.
1730
01:24:26.335 --> 01:24:27.475
We had to reboot the modem.
1731
01:24:27.765 --> 01:24:31.435
We'll be there in a moment. You know,
1732
01:24:32.225 --> 01:24:33.225
Stretch big.
1733
01:24:36.725 --> 01:24:39.155
Maybe while we're waiting we can just say who's in the room,
1734
01:24:39.205 --> 01:24:41.275
who's gonna be kind of presenting this desk deck.
1735
01:24:41.305 --> 01:24:42.305
Yeah.
1736
01:24:43.455 --> 01:24:46.075
Hi everyone. Karen Gani, principal at Memorial School.
1737
01:24:48.325 --> 01:24:50.635
Chris Cook, director of curriculum and instruction.
1738
01:24:54.445 --> 01:24:56.875
Aaron Miller, assistant superintendent of student services.
1739
01:24:57.275 --> 01:24:59.155
I said co-host Matthew Gillis,
1740
01:24:59.155 --> 01:25:00.435
assistant superintendent of finance.
1741
01:25:01.815 --> 01:25:03.395
And then we also have Dennis Roach,
1742
01:25:03.395 --> 01:25:05.395
our CTO who's on hybrid.
1743
01:25:07.215 --> 01:25:09.555
Yes.
And we have Corey Ko in the back who's the,
1744
01:25:09.555 --> 01:25:10.875
our preschool director in case there's
1745
01:25:10.875 --> 01:25:11.995
any preschool related questions.
1746
01:25:13.025 --> 01:25:15.555
Okay. All right, we're there. So I did that one.
1747
01:25:15.555 --> 01:25:18.715
Let's go to the next slide. Okay,
1748
01:25:18.975 --> 01:25:20.795
so tonight's an opportunity for the committee
1749
01:25:20.815 --> 01:25:22.875
to understand the draft, which we do have.
1750
01:25:22.935 --> 01:25:24.555
And it's linked into our agenda, the full,
1751
01:25:24.675 --> 01:25:26.435
I think 28 ish page draft.
1752
01:25:27.215 --> 01:25:29.715
Ask questions and identify what needs more attention.
1753
01:25:30.275 --> 01:25:33.555
I will say this is fairly template, the requirements of
1754
01:25:34.095 --> 01:25:35.635
the MSBA have a template.
1755
01:25:36.575 --> 01:25:38.195
So it's not just freeform from us.
1756
01:25:38.775 --> 01:25:41.475
We we're really seeking your feedback on whether the program
1757
01:25:41.995 --> 01:25:44.395
reflects our priorities for students and families
1758
01:25:44.655 --> 01:25:46.355
and whether anything important is missing
1759
01:25:47.055 --> 01:25:48.595
or maybe in there that you don't like.
1760
01:25:49.395 --> 01:25:53.275
We'll continue the discussion like Matt said on October 26th
1761
01:25:53.295 --> 01:25:56.315
and then again on November 2nd, following that vote,
1762
01:25:56.315 --> 01:25:57.395
we're going to share that.
1763
01:25:57.795 --> 01:25:59.395
I had the question today when this will go
1764
01:25:59.395 --> 01:26:00.515
to the school building committee,
1765
01:26:00.725 --> 01:26:03.685
since this is really the school's kind of desire
1766
01:26:03.905 --> 01:26:05.245
for meeting educational needs.
1767
01:26:05.265 --> 01:26:06.885
It goes to us first and then
1768
01:26:06.885 --> 01:26:08.325
of course it will go to the building committee.
1769
01:26:08.345 --> 01:26:10.845
But as I'm often reminded by the building committee chair,
1770
01:26:11.505 --> 01:26:14.925
we get to kind of know what our kids need and they build it.
1771
01:26:16.155 --> 01:26:18.725
That sounds kind of fun. So, okay, slide three please.
1772
01:26:18.725 --> 01:26:22.845
Next one. We wanted just for transparency
1773
01:26:23.185 --> 01:26:24.805
to share either through link
1774
01:26:24.805 --> 01:26:29.205
or QR code that tonight builds upon decisions already made.
1775
01:26:29.555 --> 01:26:31.525
This work builds upon the statement of interest
1776
01:26:31.525 --> 01:26:33.885
that was submitted back in April, 2024.
1777
01:26:33.895 --> 01:26:36.645
Prior to my coming here, the town's approval of funding
1778
01:26:36.645 --> 01:26:39.365
for the feasibility study and the committee's discussions
1779
01:26:39.365 --> 01:26:40.645
and decisions last spring.
1780
01:26:40.945 --> 01:26:42.645
All of those artifacts are linked here
1781
01:26:42.645 --> 01:26:44.485
because we're not gonna go and review them all again.
1782
01:26:45.495 --> 01:26:48.605
Those discussions established the planned configuration
1783
01:26:48.605 --> 01:26:50.085
kindergarten through grade four
1784
01:26:50.315 --> 01:26:51.925
with four preschool classrooms.
1785
01:26:52.285 --> 01:26:55.645
I will note that it's the MS B'S lingo calling it
1786
01:26:55.645 --> 01:26:57.925
neighborhood preschool classrooms.
1787
01:26:57.945 --> 01:27:01.445
That's not our lingo. It's it's MSBA language.
1788
01:27:01.745 --> 01:27:04.885
So these are in our mind four four preschool classrooms.
1789
01:27:07.435 --> 01:27:10.685
This ED program describes how that configuration should work
1790
01:27:10.685 --> 01:27:12.685
for students, staff, and families.
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And you'll see a description
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of current building conditions in the full document.
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Next slide please. So you've seen this slide before.
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This was actually a slide last spring when we went
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through this in several meetings.
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But it's important to just anchor kind of our,
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our ED program is built upon these assumptions
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that the committee voted for on June 16th of last year.
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The MSBA design enrollment is 570 students, which we kept
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to in this design in kindergarten through grade four.
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With those four preschool classrooms.
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That capacity reflects broader district need.
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You'll, you'll remember that our current enrollment,
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at least last year was 4 36.
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I think it's four 11 right now.
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And MSBA gave us far more seats than that,
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recognizing we have mods
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that will soon be out of date, et cetera.
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The preschool component also supports the committee's
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decision to consolidate preschool into two locations
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and move preschool classrooms out of Natick High School.
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Freeing up much needed space there.
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I will remind the committee that the statement
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of interest wasn't about expanding preschool,
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it was about overcrowding in other schools
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and needing to kind of find a solution
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that could be a thing we talk about in the future.
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But right now the scope doesn't consider expansion.
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The important distinction on this slide is
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that five 70 is the K four design enrollment
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for preschool classrooms.
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And the slide also identifies the base reimbursement
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rate, which is pretty important.
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Next slide. So the starting point
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for the program is our strategic plan
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derived in its vision inspire lifelong learners
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who are empowered to continue
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to contribute meaningfully to their communities.
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Our value should be evident in a child's daily
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experience within the school.
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Belonging means every kid can participate fully in their
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school community and receive the support they need.
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The education program makes those commitments concrete
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and we're also planning for a school
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that will serve generations of students.
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Next slide. This is just really trying to say
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what the plan is in the state's words,
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because again, this is not just us writing a report,
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it's actually what the state requires us to do.
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So we put a few quotes in there from their requirements.
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The MSBA asks the districts
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to explain their current educational program,
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what we wanna continue
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and what they need to expand or change.
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That includes recognizing
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what already works well at Memorial
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and identifying where building limits
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what students and staff can do.
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We've explained that I think quite well.
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The program then provides the educational basis
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for the spaces that we request, for example,
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of small group instruction as part of
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how we want to support students.
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And it is, we need appropriate space
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for it in your classrooms.
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This draft gives the architect a clear
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statement of the school's needs.
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And once the architect is under contract,
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we'll work together to refine those needs into coordinated
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space plan and evaluate possible solutions.
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So room sizes, layouts
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and other design details will receive a lot more review
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as we continue with the MSBA process.
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Next slide. Each strategic focus area shows up in the
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plan so you can see them all here.
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These are our four focus areas.
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Teaching and learning means strong classroom
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instruction, belonging.
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Children can move through their school with independence,
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participate learning in the arts and play.
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It also means planning for services that allow more students
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to remain in their neighborhood school communication
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and community engagement means a welcoming school
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with appropriate places for families to meet with staff
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along with spaces that support extended
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care and community use.
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And then refor resources
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and infrastructure means planning for a very safe
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and efficient building that we can maintain
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responsibly over time.
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So you're gonna see those connections identified
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through the remaining slides,
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which the team is going to cover.
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And I'll turn it over to Karen to show
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how the program would shape the daily experience
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of student, staff and families. Thank
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You Dr.
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Okay, so this slide really kind of puts together
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in one place what we're currently experiencing at Memorial
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and what a new memorial might open up for us
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as we go through it.
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It, it's pulled right from the educational plan.
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It helps kind of articulate how we're using spaces
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that were never designed for instruction
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as instructional spaces at Memorial now
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because our numbers have just the use
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of the building has changed over the years.
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Some things that are very important
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to us are the universal accessibility
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and the I-D-A-I-D-E-A compliance
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and the opportunities for kids that might require assistance
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to be able to move freely throughout the building.
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Right now that's kind of challenging when there is a
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situation that requires support.
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The new building would give us an opportunity
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to bring special education programming
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and ML programming back to campus, which has
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historically been outsourced.
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We're starting to integrate this year.
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But it's really important for kids to be able to go
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to their home community schools
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and get the level of service that they require so
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that they can stay within their neighborhood.
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School preschool.
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Coming to Memorial is an opportunity for us
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to just start building relationships with families.
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Even if it's a program that we're hosting versus
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overseeing, it still allows families to see what a,
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an elementary school setting looks like
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and to feel integrated
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and connected in a different kind
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of way than versus maybe a high school.
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One thing that is present that was brought to my attention
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through a question is that cafeteria
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and auditorium are separate spaces.
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That's not the intention in the design plan.
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So I have to go back and look
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and see why that is presented that way.
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A cator is a typical, still standard build out, right?
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Not a Gymatorium CA Gymatorium,
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that's Johnson school's former model, just a cator.
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But designing that space where it can serve the triple duty
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that it has to serve as a dining room and auditorium and our
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after, after afterschool activity program
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space with storage.
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Because that's the challenge
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that happens now is that there's no storage.
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So you try to use it for all these different spaces
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and you're just tucking
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and shoving to make it to, to try to execute it.
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Another purpose is to move music lessons outside
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of our hallways and to give them a space
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where they can actually work
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with children without having people
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walking through their lessons.
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Teachers with planning spaces where they can collaborate
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and have resources
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and tools that are gonna help their collaboration start
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and finish versus being far away from the, from the copier,
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from the printer, from the things
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that they might need to execute.
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Right now. They meet in classrooms when students are there
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and other than that they don't really have a space.
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The other thing that is kind of important here is
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a new memorial would give us more than one driveway in
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and out, which is really restricting when,
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when there's any kind of traffic or flow
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or anything that isn't moving as well as expected.
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It can really be a hindrance in the way
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that we move about our building in
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the morning, in the afternoon.
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And we wanna make sure that kids are getting to
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and from school safely and efficiently.
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Next slide. Okay.
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So Memorial will remain a kindergarten
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through grade four school with 26 classrooms adding on
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for preschool classrooms.
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That will happen in tandem to what we're programming.
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We are asking for 26 classrooms
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because this is the first year in over a decade
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where I haven't had a bubble class.
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Right. And a bubble class is when there is
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an additional class per grade level
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because our student numbers warrant it
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or they have to be redistricted from ano
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another school building.
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So five classes would be the standard.
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We added a six class symbolically to grade two,
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not knowing where that bubble would fall.
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So a a total number of 30 classrooms overall
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for our community, we will, we,
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our goal is to stay within the expectations
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of our contract requirements.
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We wanna keep our kindergarten classrooms between 20 and 22
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and that our classes grades one through four, if we can
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keep 'em between 22 and 24, that's our target.
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Next slide.
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Okay.
So this looks at the plan
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through a student's eyes.
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And we want every student to be part
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of their tier one experience, their
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instruction within their classroom for literacy and math.
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And that extra support is added
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around the core, not taken from it.
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So the idea here is that we're building neighborhoods
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for learning where grade based classrooms are there
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and then half size, third size classrooms are part of
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that design so that students
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can move fluidly within their classroom
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to the smaller spaces to get the supports they need.
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That would also feed into our WIN model, the
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what I need blocks so that students are able to work
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across their grade level.
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Like as we're working through this right now, this year
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some students might move across classrooms so
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that we can work efficiently in delivering the small
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targeted help that kids need.
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And we can do it within their regular learning spaces.
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Great. Next slide please.
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Okay. And this is really thinking about teaching
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through the teacher's eyes, making sure that we have time
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and space for classroom teachers to work
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beside their grade level teams with a shared small classroom
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between them in that neighborhood setting.
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It's an opportunity for these shared spaces,
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for special education, for ML learning, for intervention
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where co-teaching can happen
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and that teachers can move, whether it's general ed
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or specialist teacher can move
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between the spaces depending on the students that are there
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and the needs that they have.
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Also within this design, thinking about special education
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and making sure that there's conference spaces,
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administrative offices, therapy
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and testing spaces that allow our specialists to our,
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our related service providers to meet with kids
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and do the work that they need to do in an organized way.
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Right now we have like our assistant principal
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is in a conference room.
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Our sped admin is also in a conference room,
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so it's shared space
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and oftentimes they will leave their space so
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that others can host meetings
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and do some of that collaborative work
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that we need to to do.
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Our end goal is that everybody has a home
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and we're able to get things done well and efficiently.
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Next slide.
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Okay.
This is more
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through a parent's eyes services close to home, right?
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In an opportunity. This connects most
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mostly with communication
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and community engagement from our strategic plan.
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Thinking about safety and infrastructure.
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And it might sound redundant with some of the things
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that I'm going to say, but it's a focus on families
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and their experience in the school situation overall.
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Right. And that there's a theme that kind
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of keeps coming through here.
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So up before this year, children that were English learners
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didn't get supports at Memorial School.
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They had to go to another school if they wanted
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that ML support.
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01:39:41.595 --> 01:39:42.805
Some families turned that down
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01:39:42.825 --> 01:39:43.965
and they just stayed at Memorial.
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01:39:44.305 --> 01:39:46.165
And then we did our best
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01:39:46.545 --> 01:39:51.475
to support children without the necessary instruction.
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01:39:52.415 --> 01:39:54.275
And we're trying to do better
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01:39:54.695 --> 01:39:56.395
and we're working to build better systems.
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01:39:56.935 --> 01:39:59.995
But that's another structure that requires space and
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01:40:00.055 --> 01:40:01.435
and deliberate intention.
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01:40:03.095 --> 01:40:06.395
We want those families to know
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01:40:06.465 --> 01:40:08.395
that their homeschool is going
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01:40:08.395 --> 01:40:09.795
to be able to meet their needs.
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01:40:10.015 --> 01:40:12.435
And it could be from preschool all the way up to grade four.
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01:40:13.215 --> 01:40:15.675
And that's an opportunity that we have here, is
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to develop those strong relationships.
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01:40:19.535 --> 01:40:23.875
We also wanna make sure that arrival
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01:40:24.335 --> 01:40:29.305
and dismissal, We can build a better system
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01:40:29.605 --> 01:40:31.385
so that people can actually see
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01:40:31.395 --> 01:40:32.545
who's coming into the building.
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01:40:32.675 --> 01:40:34.105
Right now at Memorial School,
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01:40:34.165 --> 01:40:36.185
you can't see people approaching the main doors.
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01:40:36.845 --> 01:40:39.865
We have a small camera, we have a video system.
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01:40:41.405 --> 01:40:45.305
But in a perfect world, hopefully a future world,
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01:40:45.885 --> 01:40:50.105
we will be able to see from our front office people
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01:40:50.105 --> 01:40:52.025
that are approaching our building clearly
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01:40:53.755 --> 01:40:55.205
without any block.
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01:40:56.075 --> 01:41:00.655
So that's important. We want to make sure that our
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01:41:01.295 --> 01:41:04.975
entrance and exit systems, kids don't have to cross over
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01:41:07.325 --> 01:41:09.335
when they leave a bus to get into school.
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01:41:09.445 --> 01:41:11.335
They have to go across a crosswalk
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01:41:11.535 --> 01:41:13.455
that cars are actually traveling through.
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01:41:13.635 --> 01:41:16.135
And we have safety patrol, you met them tonight,
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01:41:16.135 --> 01:41:18.815
they're lovely with adults stopping traffic.
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01:41:19.635 --> 01:41:21.535
But I think it, as we move forward,
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01:41:21.675 --> 01:41:23.015
we wanna be thinking about that
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01:41:23.395 --> 01:41:25.655
and setting up a system where there's no co-mingling
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01:41:26.165 --> 01:41:28.415
that would be important from a safety perspective.
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01:41:29.725 --> 01:41:32.935
Also, simple things like building a health clinic
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01:41:33.165 --> 01:41:36.775
that has an exit door so a sick child doesn't have to walk
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01:41:36.775 --> 01:41:40.975
through the office and walk past a bunch of people
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01:41:41.765 --> 01:41:44.055
when we know that they're ill, is there a way
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01:41:44.055 --> 01:41:46.575
that we can exit them out of the building in a safe way
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01:41:46.575 --> 01:41:49.975
to their adult without having them have to
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01:41:51.485 --> 01:41:52.545
spread more germs.
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01:41:52.865 --> 01:41:55.465
Germs spread easily enough in an elementary school setting.
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01:41:57.845 --> 01:41:59.585
The other piece that I think is important,
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01:41:59.685 --> 01:42:01.505
as I mentioned in the last slide, is
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01:42:01.505 --> 01:42:04.065
that families have access to private space to meet
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01:42:04.065 --> 01:42:05.345
with professionals in the building.
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01:42:05.755 --> 01:42:08.065
Right now that's kind of a a, a hiccup.
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01:42:08.685 --> 01:42:09.825
We all share our space.
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01:42:09.875 --> 01:42:12.225
We're flexible people and we're happy to do so.
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01:42:13.005 --> 01:42:15.705
It would be nice if we had some targeted spaces
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01:42:16.255 --> 01:42:21.245
that were not multiple use spaces where everyone knew
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01:42:21.245 --> 01:42:25.485
that they could meet and discuss the needs of the community
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01:42:26.025 --> 01:42:28.445
or that they could meet with community members.
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01:42:30.005 --> 01:42:32.085
Principal Gani, if I can just mention one other piece
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01:42:32.085 --> 01:42:33.445
about the special ed programming.
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01:42:34.085 --> 01:42:36.805
So currently we have a therapeutic learning center,
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01:42:36.815 --> 01:42:39.365
which is our, we just added that this year.
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01:42:39.505 --> 01:42:44.325
So we now have a therapeutic learning center at both sides
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01:42:44.505 --> 01:42:46.405
of town that feed into our middle schools.
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01:42:46.945 --> 01:42:49.325
But the one thing Memorial does not have is an access
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01:42:49.325 --> 01:42:50.845
program which services our students
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01:42:50.845 --> 01:42:53.525
with more severe special needs in terms
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01:42:53.525 --> 01:42:56.005
of autism communication, intellectual impairments.
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01:42:56.465 --> 01:42:58.405
So a proposal of this is
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01:42:58.405 --> 01:43:01.165
to build an additional program space that could be used
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01:43:01.305 --> 01:43:02.485
as an access program
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01:43:02.985 --> 01:43:07.405
or perhaps even a collaborative space where a flexible space
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01:43:07.405 --> 01:43:09.605
where a collaborative could even come in and, and,
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01:43:09.705 --> 01:43:10.765
and rent some space.
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01:43:10.865 --> 01:43:12.165
And we could, it could become a revenue
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01:43:12.185 --> 01:43:13.645
source for us at some point.
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01:43:14.025 --> 01:43:16.205
So that is another piece, again,
2128
01:43:16.225 --> 01:43:18.605
to principal Kalani's point is that we want students,
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01:43:19.485 --> 01:43:22.165
families who have children who, who need that level
2130
01:43:22.185 --> 01:43:25.405
of service to be able to stay in their, their homeschool
2131
01:43:25.465 --> 01:43:28.285
and with their neighborhood and peers and siblings as well.
2132
01:43:28.305 --> 01:43:29.485
So that's another piece of that.
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01:43:31.095 --> 01:43:34.525
Thank you. Next slide. Great.
2134
01:43:36.105 --> 01:43:39.085
And so this just kind of globally looks at
2135
01:43:39.785 --> 01:43:42.125
shared spaces like beyond the classroom
2136
01:43:42.385 --> 01:43:44.645
and what this plan would help to do to,
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01:43:44.745 --> 01:43:46.365
to educate the whole child.
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01:43:47.825 --> 01:43:52.045
Art gets a 1200 square foot room with a workroom and a kiln.
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01:43:52.445 --> 01:43:53.805
I had a question about the kiln.
2140
01:43:54.015 --> 01:43:57.005
Behem has a kiln, some schools do, some schools don't.
2141
01:43:57.515 --> 01:43:58.685
It's used in our third
2142
01:43:58.685 --> 01:44:03.365
and fourth grade over there to help with our art programming
2143
01:44:03.465 --> 01:44:06.525
and I know that our art teacher would use it.
2144
01:44:06.785 --> 01:44:10.925
So if that's something that can be part of our future,
2145
01:44:11.435 --> 01:44:15.365
it's here to help with our programming
2146
01:44:19.535 --> 01:44:22.725
Music rooms, making sure we have music rooms that allow
2147
01:44:22.825 --> 01:44:26.445
for choral practice, that they have practice rooms off
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01:44:26.445 --> 01:44:28.445
of them so that it's not in hallways,
2149
01:44:28.445 --> 01:44:30.925
that it's actual prac lesson practice space
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01:44:31.545 --> 01:44:34.685
and that there's storage for the musical instruments.
2151
01:44:34.755 --> 01:44:38.405
That there's more storage than you think at an
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01:44:38.405 --> 01:44:39.445
elementary school setting.
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01:44:39.585 --> 01:44:40.645
Or there's more need
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01:44:40.645 --> 01:44:43.205
for storage than you think at an elementary school setting.
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01:44:43.205 --> 01:44:47.845
There's a lot of stuff and it's used with integrity.
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01:44:49.725 --> 01:44:52.205
Thinking about gym, focusing on pe.
2157
01:44:53.825 --> 01:44:58.205
Access to bathrooms when you're in PE would reduce time away
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01:44:58.275 --> 01:45:01.365
from class at water bill, water bubblers,
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01:45:01.365 --> 01:45:02.885
like the water fillers that we use.
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01:45:03.105 --> 01:45:04.965
If those can be stationed
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01:45:05.595 --> 01:45:09.045
strategically within the PE space, within
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01:45:09.725 --> 01:45:13.525
a cafeteria space so that when kids are in those classes,
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01:45:13.755 --> 01:45:16.285
they're not interrupted or having to leave.
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01:45:16.665 --> 01:45:20.325
But then also if that space is rented as a community space,
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01:45:20.745 --> 01:45:21.765
you can close it off
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01:45:22.185 --> 01:45:24.125
and the community will have access
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01:45:24.125 --> 01:45:26.485
to all the things they need without access
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01:45:26.505 --> 01:45:27.885
to the entire school building.
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01:45:28.645 --> 01:45:31.165
I think we can be smart about how we think through
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01:45:32.105 --> 01:45:33.885
the overall use of the building too.
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01:45:35.155 --> 01:45:38.045
From a cafeteria, cafeteria perspective,
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01:45:38.705 --> 01:45:40.685
we currently host five lunches.
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01:45:40.745 --> 01:45:43.605
So our lunches run from 11 to one 30
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01:45:45.985 --> 01:45:50.205
and that many lunches inter it, it hinders your opportunity
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01:45:50.305 --> 01:45:53.045
to schedule things more strategically
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01:45:53.315 --> 01:45:55.125
because that's a long window of time.
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01:45:57.425 --> 01:46:00.725
In a perfect world, we'd look to build a cafeteria
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01:46:00.725 --> 01:46:02.565
that could host more students so
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01:46:02.565 --> 01:46:04.685
that we could run two lunch periods.
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01:46:05.305 --> 01:46:07.485
And that would give us a lot more flexibility in
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01:46:07.505 --> 01:46:11.405
how we schedule our day and our time across memorial school.
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01:46:12.145 --> 01:46:13.725
It would also give more space
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01:46:13.985 --> 01:46:17.205
and to our afterschool activity program asap.
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01:46:18.105 --> 01:46:20.645
But it's important that that also comes with storage.
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01:46:21.045 --> 01:46:23.485
'cause right now our stage is the storage space
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01:46:23.665 --> 01:46:24.965
for our ASAP program.
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01:46:26.515 --> 01:46:30.325
Fine. Not helpful if we wanna use that space
2188
01:46:30.345 --> 01:46:31.445
as a school community
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01:46:31.445 --> 01:46:33.125
because there's a lot of stuff up there.
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01:46:33.385 --> 01:46:36.845
So how do we create that balance where we are good hosts
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01:46:36.905 --> 01:46:40.925
for programs, but also give everybody the space they need
2192
01:46:41.025 --> 01:46:44.925
to keep their things safely away from each other.
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01:46:46.745 --> 01:46:49.005
One thing that we didn't really talk about in the,
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01:46:49.040 --> 01:46:50.645
the program that was brought
2195
01:46:50.645 --> 01:46:52.885
to my attention was the outdoor space.
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01:46:53.665 --> 01:46:56.405
And the reason I think we hadn't focused on it so much is
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01:46:56.405 --> 01:46:58.285
because MSBA doesn't touch anything
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01:46:58.465 --> 01:46:59.645
if it's not under the roof.
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01:47:00.705 --> 01:47:02.565
But we of course we will need playgrounds,
2200
01:47:02.745 --> 01:47:05.125
we will need a preschool, kindergarten playground,
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01:47:05.125 --> 01:47:08.565
we will need a regular playground, we will need field space.
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01:47:09.505 --> 01:47:11.405
PE does go outside in good weather.
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01:47:11.945 --> 01:47:15.365
We would continue that pro like that programming
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01:47:16.145 --> 01:47:18.045
and that will be part of the design.
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01:47:18.865 --> 01:47:21.805
We just didn't put it in the pro in the program review.
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01:47:22.145 --> 01:47:23.805
And that's something that we might wanna just go back
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01:47:23.805 --> 01:47:26.005
and add so that it creates a clear picture.
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01:47:27.265 --> 01:47:30.285
So whoever mentioned that, you're right, it's not here.
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01:47:32.305 --> 01:47:34.685
The reason behind it was MSBA doesn't cover it,
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01:47:35.185 --> 01:47:37.085
but it's important part of our daily life.
2211
01:47:37.465 --> 01:47:41.485
So it's important. Okay.
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01:47:43.625 --> 01:47:45.965
And then I'm gonna hand it off to Chris for this one
2213
01:47:46.245 --> 01:47:48.085
'cause he did a nice job pulling together some
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01:47:48.085 --> 01:47:49.925
science resources.
2215
01:47:49.935 --> 01:47:50.935
Thank you.
2216
01:47:51.675 --> 01:47:54.685
Yeah, so sustainability is a,
2217
01:47:57.495 --> 01:47:58.495
Sorry.
2218
01:47:58.495 --> 01:48:01.405
Sustainability is a high priority here in Natick
2219
01:48:01.585 --> 01:48:05.645
and a major reason why the project was accepted into the
2220
01:48:05.845 --> 01:48:08.045
MSBA program to begin with.
2221
01:48:09.085 --> 01:48:11.405
Considering we have 55-year-old infrastructure,
2222
01:48:11.775 --> 01:48:14.445
we're talking about the roof, the windows, the boilers,
2223
01:48:14.465 --> 01:48:15.525
the ventilation system
2224
01:48:15.945 --> 01:48:20.125
and any upgrade in that department is going to save energy
2225
01:48:20.545 --> 01:48:22.045
and resources and money.
2226
01:48:23.985 --> 01:48:27.525
So right out of the gates, upgrading those systems
2227
01:48:27.595 --> 01:48:29.765
with a new build would would provide
2228
01:48:29.765 --> 01:48:31.165
that sustainability feature.
2229
01:48:31.915 --> 01:48:35.725
It's also required under the state's green schools program
2230
01:48:36.075 --> 01:48:39.045
that we register for a green building standard
2231
01:48:39.265 --> 01:48:42.685
and beat the state energy code by 10% with incentives
2232
01:48:42.865 --> 01:48:43.885
to do even better.
2233
01:48:45.585 --> 01:48:47.445
But most importantly, the impact
2234
01:48:47.445 --> 01:48:50.125
that it has on the environment for our students
2235
01:48:50.945 --> 01:48:54.165
and a a new building has
2236
01:48:55.475 --> 01:49:00.165
know clean air natural light ventilation systems
2237
01:49:00.785 --> 01:49:02.485
and consistent temperatures.
2238
01:49:03.065 --> 01:49:05.685
And we don't have to go too high up Maslow's hierarchy
2239
01:49:05.685 --> 01:49:07.685
of needs to know how essential that is
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01:49:07.865 --> 01:49:09.805
for a quality learning environment.
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01:49:10.545 --> 01:49:11.925
And if you look at pages 14
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01:49:11.925 --> 01:49:14.805
and 15 of the ED plan, there's a crosswalk between
2243
01:49:15.765 --> 01:49:19.245
physical life and environmental science standards K to four.
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01:49:19.905 --> 01:49:22.965
And ways that we can bring that to life in,
2245
01:49:23.025 --> 01:49:25.685
in a new building without creating a dedicated
2246
01:49:25.795 --> 01:49:27.045
stem or maker space.
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01:49:27.505 --> 01:49:30.605
But simply by providing dashboards for energy consumption
2248
01:49:31.115 --> 01:49:32.845
windows into boiler rooms
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01:49:32.945 --> 01:49:35.725
so students can see the infrastructure and how it works.
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01:49:36.345 --> 01:49:37.965
We can incorporate some of the indoor
2251
01:49:37.965 --> 01:49:40.725
and outdoor spaces in terms of how we're reusing
2252
01:49:41.225 --> 01:49:44.925
and saving resources and,
2253
01:49:44.945 --> 01:49:46.845
and tie every day
2254
01:49:47.925 --> 01:49:51.205
building aspects into those science standards
2255
01:49:51.985 --> 01:49:53.205
and, and just bring it to life.
2256
01:50:00.595 --> 01:50:05.165
Okay. So on slide 15 here, talking about technology,
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01:50:06.215 --> 01:50:10.645
there are four main areas that we've identified here
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01:50:10.675 --> 01:50:14.965
that we'll be doing in the memorial building project.
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01:50:16.335 --> 01:50:18.405
We're talking high level at this point
2260
01:50:18.515 --> 01:50:21.045
because a lot of the details will get worked out
2261
01:50:21.595 --> 01:50:23.685
when we're working with the architects.
2262
01:50:23.705 --> 01:50:26.125
But the four basic areas we're looking at,
2263
01:50:27.165 --> 01:50:30.965
since our curriculum is mostly digital, it's key
2264
01:50:30.965 --> 01:50:33.805
to have presentation systems within the classroom.
2265
01:50:33.985 --> 01:50:36.685
So teachers can share curriculum materials with students
2266
01:50:37.945 --> 01:50:41.885
having wifi readily available throughout the building in
2267
01:50:41.885 --> 01:50:44.325
both learning and administrative spaces
2268
01:50:44.625 --> 01:50:47.285
or critical for teaching and learning.
2269
01:50:47.345 --> 01:50:49.725
But also the daily operations of the building.
2270
01:50:51.885 --> 01:50:54.045
Assisted listening systems are essential
2271
01:50:54.145 --> 01:50:56.365
so students can properly hear everything
2272
01:50:56.365 --> 01:51:00.285
that's going on in the classroom and having storage
2273
01:51:00.425 --> 01:51:03.605
and charging capabilities for whatever technology devices
2274
01:51:04.225 --> 01:51:06.725
we decide to deploy in the classrooms.
2275
01:51:07.825 --> 01:51:11.445
The advantage we have on this building project is we have a
2276
01:51:11.765 --> 01:51:15.005
strategic plan that we're actually executing in the middle
2277
01:51:15.065 --> 01:51:16.285
of executing
2278
01:51:16.465 --> 01:51:18.085
and having that alignment
2279
01:51:18.715 --> 01:51:20.845
with this building project will be key
2280
01:51:20.845 --> 01:51:22.965
to helping us make a lot of those decisions.
2281
01:51:24.865 --> 01:51:25.865
And that's it.
2282
01:51:29.185 --> 01:51:30.805
So where are we right now?
2283
01:51:30.805 --> 01:51:33.525
We're in the feasibility study phase with MSBA
2284
01:51:33.585 --> 01:51:36.405
and that's where they basically, it's a structured process
2285
01:51:36.505 --> 01:51:40.165
and they basically ask us to look at the options of
2286
01:51:40.165 --> 01:51:44.205
what we could do with the existing memorial as in renovate
2287
01:51:44.265 --> 01:51:47.325
or renovate and add build new or,
2288
01:51:47.385 --> 01:51:50.045
or build new somewhere else or renovate somewhere else.
2289
01:51:50.625 --> 01:51:53.805
And one of the caveats with that is it's on land that, that,
2290
01:51:54.035 --> 01:51:55.085
that the town owns
2291
01:51:55.105 --> 01:51:56.645
and that the school department would control.
2292
01:51:56.805 --> 01:51:58.605
'cause MSPA is not gonna give you money for a rental.
2293
01:51:59.195 --> 01:52:01.165
They wanna make sure you, you own the land.
2294
01:52:02.945 --> 01:52:05.885
So this plan, which is still in in draft mode,
2295
01:52:06.185 --> 01:52:08.885
really helps the architect with all the things
2296
01:52:08.885 --> 01:52:10.165
that need to fit into the building.
2297
01:52:11.145 --> 01:52:12.645
And they're gonna ask some more questions.
2298
01:52:13.745 --> 01:52:15.325
We, we expect they'll be hired shortly.
2299
01:52:15.325 --> 01:52:16.365
They're gonna ask some more questions
2300
01:52:16.365 --> 01:52:19.125
of the school department staff to make sure
2301
01:52:19.125 --> 01:52:21.045
that they're capturing everything
2302
01:52:21.045 --> 01:52:24.165
because this is part of what they, they do for a living.
2303
01:52:24.645 --> 01:52:27.085
The firm we hired are about to hire.
2304
01:52:27.145 --> 01:52:30.405
We have working through tentative agreement, AI three is
2305
01:52:30.995 --> 01:52:32.605
done, I think over a hundred schools
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01:52:33.305 --> 01:52:35.685
and a lot of them in Massachusetts.
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And you know, this will be their fifth one in
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01:52:38.285 --> 01:52:39.565
the, in the town of Natick.
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01:52:39.565 --> 01:52:41.405
So they're familiar with the community
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01:52:41.405 --> 01:52:44.405
and we're happy to have them back, you know,
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01:52:44.585 --> 01:52:47.045
so they're gonna go through that with a list of rooms.
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01:52:47.075 --> 01:52:49.445
They'll compare options, they'll come up
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01:52:49.445 --> 01:52:53.005
with prices that'll be discussed with the school
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01:52:53.685 --> 01:52:56.685
building committee to see if they can
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01:52:56.795 --> 01:52:58.125
pick a preferred option.
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01:52:58.505 --> 01:53:00.685
And then once that gets approved by the state,
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01:53:02.315 --> 01:53:04.085
they go into schematic design
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01:53:04.225 --> 01:53:07.405
and they come up with a, a budget number that we bring back
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01:53:07.405 --> 01:53:10.405
before the voters to approve the project up
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01:53:10.405 --> 01:53:11.565
or down for construction.
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01:53:12.145 --> 01:53:15.525
And in case anybody's wondering all that time could take
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01:53:15.525 --> 01:53:16.805
between four and five years.
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01:53:17.555 --> 01:53:20.885
Depends on, depends on a lot of variables,
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01:53:20.885 --> 01:53:25.405
but it depends on how long it takes sometimes the committee
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01:53:25.465 --> 01:53:26.685
to make decisions and
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01:53:26.745 --> 01:53:29.285
and timing of, of the state to get back to us.
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01:53:30.225 --> 01:53:31.965
So with that, I guess I'll open it up
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01:53:31.965 --> 01:53:33.085
for any, any questions.
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01:53:33.945 --> 01:53:34.945
Got the whole team here.
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01:53:37.555 --> 01:53:40.365
Okay. Thank you for the presentation
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01:53:40.385 --> 01:53:43.085
and the link to the educational plan document.
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01:53:43.185 --> 01:53:46.965
So for the members of the committee, questions
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01:53:47.065 --> 01:53:49.005
or discussion is, is good.
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01:53:49.185 --> 01:53:52.645
Now next week we will listen to the public's questions
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01:53:53.105 --> 01:53:55.645
and feedback and then on November 2nd we can discuss,
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01:53:55.825 --> 01:53:58.165
ask more questions and ultimately vote again.
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01:53:59.185 --> 01:54:01.965
So plenty of opportunity for people
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01:54:02.185 --> 01:54:04.165
to participate in the process.
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01:54:04.945 --> 01:54:05.965
Any questions
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01:54:06.465 --> 01:54:10.585
or comments now, Dr.
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01:54:10.765 --> 01:54:11.765
Fugman?
2342
01:54:14.325 --> 01:54:16.505
Thanks. So this is a great presentation.
2343
01:54:16.765 --> 01:54:19.145
I'm, I'm really excited about this project.
2344
01:54:20.285 --> 01:54:24.625
So I wanted just to start by lifting up a couple of things
2345
01:54:24.625 --> 01:54:26.865
that I'm especially excited about that I heard.
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01:54:28.925 --> 01:54:32.185
One is Ms.
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01:54:32.345 --> 01:54:36.625
Alani talked about in terms of the what, what I need block,
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01:54:37.435 --> 01:54:39.265
which is in essence MTSS.
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01:54:39.265 --> 01:54:43.665
So we are really putting our focus on MTSS, our commitment
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01:54:43.685 --> 01:54:46.545
to an MTSS system in the design of the building,
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01:54:46.545 --> 01:54:47.585
which I'm really excited about.
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01:54:47.725 --> 01:54:49.985
It really allows for that for students
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01:54:50.005 --> 01:54:52.585
to receive the tier two and tier three supports.
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01:54:53.925 --> 01:54:58.545
I'm also really excited that we are adding the ELL space
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01:54:58.605 --> 01:55:01.585
and, and, and expanding the special education space.
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01:55:02.245 --> 01:55:03.505
The fact that kids can go
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01:55:03.505 --> 01:55:05.105
to their neighborhood school is huge,
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01:55:06.115 --> 01:55:10.545
especially when the reason they're, you know, it's not
2359
01:55:10.545 --> 01:55:13.705
by choice when they're kind of told, you know, you have
2360
01:55:13.705 --> 01:55:15.665
to go somewhere else because we don't
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01:55:15.665 --> 01:55:16.705
have your services here.
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01:55:17.245 --> 01:55:19.625
It doesn't create that sense of belonging we're aiming for
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01:55:19.765 --> 01:55:21.025
and this model does.
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01:55:22.265 --> 01:55:24.905
I also, I wanna make sure, I'm glad we have the
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01:55:26.055 --> 01:55:27.825
traffic improved.
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01:55:28.625 --> 01:55:32.825
I would just caution against using improved traffic
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01:55:34.045 --> 01:55:37.945
to eliminate the safety patrol kids
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01:55:37.945 --> 01:55:40.105
because I just saw there's no worry there.
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01:55:40.315 --> 01:55:42.185
Scary. Yeah, they they're scary.
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01:55:42.265 --> 01:55:46.645
I, I wouldn't mess with 'em or with our union. So yeah.
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01:55:47.905 --> 01:55:50.245
Anyway, that was a quick joke,
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01:55:50.265 --> 01:55:52.245
but to my question, we couldn't tell.
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01:55:53.075 --> 01:55:57.845
Yeah. So the first one
2374
01:55:57.865 --> 01:55:59.925
is, this is more maybe of an idea
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01:56:00.065 --> 01:56:02.085
and I'm wondering if it was considered, it's an idea
2376
01:56:02.085 --> 01:56:03.685
that I've seen in, in other schools,
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01:56:04.375 --> 01:56:06.005
other elementary schools in particular.
2378
01:56:07.045 --> 01:56:10.845
I know oftentimes we talk about maybe more in,
2379
01:56:10.865 --> 01:56:11.845
in high schools, the idea
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01:56:11.845 --> 01:56:13.085
of creating schools within schools.
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01:56:13.635 --> 01:56:16.285
What I've seen in elementary schools is making sure
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01:56:16.285 --> 01:56:19.445
that each grade level has their own space.
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01:56:20.025 --> 01:56:22.485
Not only that allows for greater collaboration
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01:56:22.485 --> 01:56:23.885
among teachers within the same team,
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01:56:24.425 --> 01:56:25.485
but also allows students
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01:56:25.585 --> 01:56:28.005
to have their own space in the, in the building.
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01:56:28.425 --> 01:56:31.165
So for example, if you're a kindergartner, you don't have
2388
01:56:31.165 --> 01:56:33.525
to feel that your school is, is big.
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01:56:33.985 --> 01:56:35.845
You just feel like you have your wing, your area.
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01:56:36.265 --> 01:56:38.445
And I'm wondering if there's any, if that's something
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01:56:38.725 --> 01:56:41.845
that we're considering mentioning to the architect
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01:56:41.845 --> 01:56:44.165
or something that, an idea that would be,
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01:56:44.265 --> 01:56:46.605
we would be considering how do we,
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01:56:47.795 --> 01:56:49.525
whether we we use wings
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01:56:49.525 --> 01:56:52.365
or just spaces for specific grade levels.
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01:56:54.525 --> 01:56:56.375
Sure. So that is exactly
2397
01:56:56.375 --> 01:56:58.655
what we're envisioning for our school.
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01:57:00.495 --> 01:57:02.215
I referred to it as kind of neighborhoods,
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01:57:02.345 --> 01:57:03.495
grade level neighborhoods
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01:57:03.825 --> 01:57:06.535
where there are full size classrooms, half
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01:57:06.535 --> 01:57:08.015
and third size classrooms.
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01:57:08.435 --> 01:57:12.775
And there's also collaborative space within that space so
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01:57:12.775 --> 01:57:16.775
that a grade level team can come together in entirety.
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01:57:17.175 --> 01:57:20.615
A grade level team can flex between classrooms
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01:57:21.075 --> 01:57:23.815
and that it really is communal and shared
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01:57:24.315 --> 01:57:26.455
and every teacher has their classroom,
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01:57:27.115 --> 01:57:30.855
but kids can get what they need within that core
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01:57:31.895 --> 01:57:34.735
neighborhood, for lack of a better word.
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01:57:34.765 --> 01:57:35.975
That seemed to fit the best.
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01:57:37.005 --> 01:57:38.375
Yeah, no, I love that. That's exactly
2411
01:57:39.005 --> 01:57:40.495
what I was thinking about.
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01:57:40.595 --> 01:57:42.095
So that's, that's, I'm, I'm so glad
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01:57:42.095 --> 01:57:43.135
that we're thinking about it that way.
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01:57:43.755 --> 01:57:46.095
And then my other question, I'm gonna try to be very careful
2415
01:57:46.355 --> 01:57:47.815
to stay within scope.
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01:57:49.015 --> 01:57:51.495
I know that this is the, the focus here is a memorial
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01:57:52.445 --> 01:57:53.455
education plan.
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01:57:54.195 --> 01:57:58.695
We do have four preschool classes as part
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01:57:58.695 --> 01:58:00.495
of the memorial plan.
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01:58:01.375 --> 01:58:04.015
I know we don't have yet a plan for, or,
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01:58:04.075 --> 01:58:08.055
or we're not discussing today a plan for where the rest
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01:58:08.075 --> 01:58:09.135
of the preschool will be.
2423
01:58:09.835 --> 01:58:13.855
But I'm curious about the thinking about how do we
2424
01:58:14.915 --> 01:58:17.535
ensure, you know, four classrooms is better than one
2425
01:58:17.535 --> 01:58:19.815
or two preschool classrooms.
2426
01:58:20.035 --> 01:58:22.775
But still even with four, presumably
2427
01:58:23.575 --> 01:58:25.735
Memorial will not be the center of the preschool.
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01:58:26.785 --> 01:58:28.775
It'll be at more of a satellite of the preschool.
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01:58:29.035 --> 01:58:32.535
So how do we make sure that the preschool, you know,
2430
01:58:32.535 --> 01:58:34.055
the staff, the preschool staff
2431
01:58:34.195 --> 01:58:35.575
can collaborate with each other.
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01:58:35.805 --> 01:58:40.775
That the, the that that we're learning that, you know,
2433
01:58:40.775 --> 01:58:42.965
there's this collaboration between the preschool teachers at
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01:58:43.165 --> 01:58:44.605
Memorial versus other places.
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01:58:45.985 --> 01:58:48.445
How are we gonna make sure that we have, you know,
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01:58:48.945 --> 01:58:52.805
the nurse, the Memorial school nurse gonna also support the
2437
01:58:52.805 --> 01:58:54.165
preschool students at Memorial.
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01:58:54.985 --> 01:58:56.445
How do we make sure it's integrated?
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01:58:56.605 --> 01:58:59.525
I know it, there's, there's been some great experiences at
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01:58:59.645 --> 01:59:01.405
the high school and I'm wondering if there's any thoughts
2441
01:59:01.405 --> 01:59:04.045
about how to integrate the preschool both within Memorial
2442
01:59:04.145 --> 01:59:06.445
but also how to make, how not
2443
01:59:06.445 --> 01:59:09.005
to make it feel like it's its own preschool
2444
01:59:09.005 --> 01:59:10.965
and kind of connected to the rest of the preschool.
2445
01:59:12.745 --> 01:59:16.205
Hi Corey Comb, preschool director.
2446
01:59:16.265 --> 01:59:18.805
I'm happy to answer that actually.
2447
01:59:19.265 --> 01:59:22.605
If you're thinking about four core classrooms as the part
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01:59:22.605 --> 01:59:23.725
of the memorial build,
2449
01:59:24.035 --> 01:59:27.605
it's no more satellite than our program currently is in
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01:59:27.605 --> 01:59:32.325
that those four classrooms essentially supplant the space at
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01:59:32.325 --> 01:59:34.925
the high school rather than dividing it more.
2452
01:59:34.925 --> 01:59:38.125
It's really just a trade from the high school
2453
01:59:38.305 --> 01:59:41.725
to memorial thinking at about the same number
2454
01:59:41.725 --> 01:59:43.445
of classroom structure of classrooms
2455
01:59:43.445 --> 01:59:44.685
that are there right now.
2456
01:59:50.495 --> 01:59:54.015
I just, so Shai, I just to add onto that, when we talk
2457
01:59:54.015 --> 01:59:56.335
with the architect about the preschool program
2458
01:59:56.635 --> 02:00:00.375
and how it works across the district, if we have a gap in,
2459
02:00:00.955 --> 02:00:02.815
in space for staff to meet
2460
02:00:02.815 --> 02:00:05.615
or for staff housing, they need to be at one building
2461
02:00:05.615 --> 02:00:07.295
or the other and the other building's already built,
2462
02:00:07.385 --> 02:00:09.015
we're gonna try and fit that into the,
2463
02:00:09.395 --> 02:00:10.615
the program here at Memorial.
2464
02:00:13.045 --> 02:00:14.735
Yeah, that makes sense. I'm curious
2465
02:00:14.755 --> 02:00:16.815
and maybe this is not part of the education plan
2466
02:00:16.975 --> 02:00:18.575
'cause it's not really a building related issue,
2467
02:00:18.575 --> 02:00:20.935
but I was curious about staffing too,
2468
02:00:20.935 --> 02:00:24.375
like a common staff like nurses and other support staff.
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02:00:24.995 --> 02:00:26.575
Is that gonna be coming from Memorial?
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02:00:26.835 --> 02:00:29.255
You know, will the preschool kids go to the Memorial
2471
02:00:29.765 --> 02:00:30.975
nurse's office for example?
2472
02:00:32.755 --> 02:00:35.135
So I think a lot of that, I mean I think we'll have
2473
02:00:35.135 --> 02:00:36.295
to work some of that out.
2474
02:00:36.405 --> 02:00:38.055
Just to be transparent, some of
2475
02:00:38.055 --> 02:00:39.455
that staffing is already shared.
2476
02:00:39.525 --> 02:00:42.615
Like some of the related service providers, excuse me,
2477
02:00:42.615 --> 02:00:44.495
the incident at the preschool level, just
2478
02:00:44.495 --> 02:00:47.055
to give you a general sense of scope to help envision
2479
02:00:47.055 --> 02:00:48.215
that we have about a hundred and,
2480
02:00:48.215 --> 02:00:50.895
well we have 159 seats at the preschool
2481
02:00:50.895 --> 02:00:52.735
total of those seats.
2482
02:00:53.515 --> 02:00:54.655
Let me do some quick math.
2483
02:00:56.685 --> 02:00:59.935
72, 72
2484
02:00:59.935 --> 02:01:03.135
to 76 tops are students on IEPs.
2485
02:01:03.235 --> 02:01:05.855
So of those students it's not a huge number.
2486
02:01:06.275 --> 02:01:09.935
And the lower instance, the lower incident, I'm sorry,
2487
02:01:10.095 --> 02:01:12.375
like related service provision like OT
2488
02:01:12.535 --> 02:01:13.735
PT, they're already shared.
2489
02:01:13.765 --> 02:01:16.415
Like for example, one of those providers is already shared
2490
02:01:16.415 --> 02:01:17.415
between our schools.
2491
02:01:17.555 --> 02:01:21.135
So some of that is already happening in terms
2492
02:01:21.135 --> 02:01:22.695
of shared staff or economy
2493
02:01:22.755 --> 02:01:24.455
of staffing based on need of the program.
2494
02:01:25.425 --> 02:01:28.215
There are some of course like just based on the program
2495
02:01:28.365 --> 02:01:30.935
need, you know we did a hundred, we did 80 evals last year.
2496
02:01:31.115 --> 02:01:33.975
So like there are some people that are part of that program
2497
02:01:34.085 --> 02:01:36.655
that would need to be dedicated to preschool just
2498
02:01:36.655 --> 02:01:38.215
to service the assessment need.
2499
02:01:38.515 --> 02:01:40.845
And I think that that varies based on
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02:01:40.985 --> 02:01:42.525
who the professional is
2501
02:01:42.525 --> 02:01:45.605
and what the need is at the preschool versus at Memorial.
2502
02:01:47.225 --> 02:01:48.965
So just to clarify, so shared you mean shared
2503
02:01:48.965 --> 02:01:49.965
between the preschool and
2504
02:01:50.025 --> 02:01:52.125
and Memorial as opposed to between one preschool
2505
02:01:52.145 --> 02:01:53.325
and the other preschool?
2506
02:01:53.425 --> 02:01:55.485
Oh well both and yes. Okay.
2507
02:01:55.835 --> 02:01:57.725
Okay great. Thank you. Yeah.
2508
02:01:59.055 --> 02:02:04.045
Other questions? Catherine did you Sure first you can
2509
02:02:04.045 --> 02:02:07.045
go, is it about the safety
2510
02:02:07.555 --> 02:02:09.365
committee? The safety patrol.
2511
02:02:09.365 --> 02:02:11.405
Okay. I did love them. I love, I loved having them come.
2512
02:02:11.795 --> 02:02:14.445
Good. I got nervous though 'cause I didn't know many kids
2513
02:02:14.465 --> 02:02:16.405
and then I was like, oh wait, I see my neighbors.
2514
02:02:16.505 --> 02:02:18.485
So that was good. If there's like a moment for me
2515
02:02:18.645 --> 02:02:19.845
'cause I'm getting older, I'm like, wait,
2516
02:02:19.845 --> 02:02:21.725
how do I not know elementary high school kids.
2517
02:02:23.905 --> 02:02:25.245
No. Thank you for the presentation.
2518
02:02:25.265 --> 02:02:27.805
So quick, just about the, about the process,
2519
02:02:28.825 --> 02:02:33.085
the actual document that we're approving, is this the,
2520
02:02:33.235 --> 02:02:36.525
it's entitled the draft memorial education ed plan
2521
02:02:37.745 --> 02:02:39.725
and the school committee approves that document?
2522
02:02:40.195 --> 02:02:41.445
Yeah, I don't, I don't know
2523
02:02:41.445 --> 02:02:43.165
that every school committee everywhere in
2524
02:02:43.165 --> 02:02:44.565
Massachusetts said that does that.
2525
02:02:44.565 --> 02:02:46.125
But I think it's important and we would like
2526
02:02:46.125 --> 02:02:47.805
to have this committee do that.
2527
02:02:48.305 --> 02:02:51.005
You should anticipate it will have several iterations
2528
02:02:51.065 --> 02:02:53.405
and we'll be clear about anything we change or add.
2529
02:02:53.515 --> 02:02:55.645
Okay. Because like I said, we still need to talk
2530
02:02:55.645 --> 02:02:57.125
to the architect, get their feedback
2531
02:02:57.185 --> 02:02:59.165
and they're very aligned to the MSBA process.
2532
02:02:59.265 --> 02:03:01.565
So we wanna make sure it goes through MSBA.
2533
02:03:02.255 --> 02:03:04.725
We're obviously gonna receive this committee's feedback
2534
02:03:04.725 --> 02:03:06.765
today if you have suggestions and incorporate that
2535
02:03:07.025 --> 02:03:09.645
and then whatever we decide from the public meeting.
2536
02:03:09.945 --> 02:03:11.805
So Okay. We'll have a few IT iterations,
2537
02:03:11.825 --> 02:03:14.325
but yes, ultimately it won't be the presentation deck.
2538
02:03:14.335 --> 02:03:15.805
It'll be that full document.
2539
02:03:16.075 --> 02:03:18.725
Okay. That's helpful.
2540
02:03:19.365 --> 02:03:21.245
'cause it's, when I was on the Memorial building committee,
2541
02:03:22.425 --> 02:03:23.685
the chair had said several times
2542
02:03:23.685 --> 02:03:26.125
that really the school committee doesn't have much of a role
2543
02:03:27.385 --> 02:03:31.445
and it beyond sort of this
2544
02:03:32.475 --> 02:03:34.525
Yeah, I said I tried to say that in the same way,
2545
02:03:34.525 --> 02:03:37.205
maybe different words, but like this is the time
2546
02:03:37.255 --> 02:03:39.845
where this our, the school district gets to say
2547
02:03:40.435 --> 02:03:42.245
what we're envisioning for our students.
2548
02:03:42.395 --> 02:03:46.685
Okay. And I think we did a huge step last spring when we
2549
02:03:46.685 --> 02:03:47.965
named kind of the scope 'cause
2550
02:03:47.965 --> 02:03:49.005
that was the boundaries of it.
2551
02:03:49.195 --> 02:03:51.205
Yeah. And so now it's kind of like the innards
2552
02:03:51.205 --> 02:03:53.045
and all the pieces that we care about.
2553
02:03:53.425 --> 02:03:55.605
So yes, it's very important
2554
02:03:55.785 --> 02:03:59.205
and we've, I don't wanna use the word protected it,
2555
02:03:59.205 --> 02:04:01.845
but we kind of kept it so that we can do our visioning
2556
02:04:01.845 --> 02:04:04.125
that's aligned to our strategic plan and our values for now
2557
02:04:04.885 --> 02:04:07.925
because really the school building committees to build it.
2558
02:04:08.155 --> 02:04:09.325
Yeah. Okay.
2559
02:04:09.505 --> 02:04:11.925
We do need the architect to kind of understand us.
2560
02:04:12.185 --> 02:04:15.325
And I do think Matt could speak more eloquently to this,
2561
02:04:15.425 --> 02:04:19.885
but the architect often has certain fees associated
2562
02:04:19.885 --> 02:04:21.605
with helping to build out the education program.
2563
02:04:22.505 --> 02:04:26.085
And so it's, I do, I do think we wanna receive some feedback
2564
02:04:26.085 --> 02:04:27.685
from them, but we're gonna try
2565
02:04:27.685 --> 02:04:28.925
to do that before November two.
2566
02:04:29.025 --> 02:04:31.725
And I only think that could enhance the program.
2567
02:04:32.345 --> 02:04:33.925
And that might be, for example,
2568
02:04:33.955 --> 02:04:37.565
like when we did the Kennedy assessment plan,
2569
02:04:38.175 --> 02:04:41.365
there was a lot of conversation about what was the intended
2570
02:04:42.025 --> 02:04:45.005
effect of this item and what was the actual effect.
2571
02:04:45.025 --> 02:04:47.445
So we might get feedback from the architect like,
2572
02:04:47.465 --> 02:04:49.485
we know you wanna have neighborhood classrooms,
2573
02:04:49.625 --> 02:04:53.125
but we suggest you do it this way versus that the other way.
2574
02:04:53.195 --> 02:04:54.405
Kind of like that's the guidance
2575
02:04:54.405 --> 02:04:56.325
that you're saying will come from the
2576
02:04:56.325 --> 02:04:57.325
Architect.
2577
02:04:57.325 --> 02:04:58.245
I'm not even really sure like right now.
2578
02:04:58.645 --> 02:05:02.085
'cause in full transparency, we, we received some will
2579
02:05:02.185 --> 02:05:04.645
to help us late on Thursday night
2580
02:05:04.645 --> 02:05:07.045
and we knew it was already getting posted on Friday.
2581
02:05:07.145 --> 02:05:08.485
So I'm like, we can't take that yet.
2582
02:05:08.505 --> 02:05:11.085
We can't possibly incorporate it, but we're happy to
2583
02:05:11.185 --> 02:05:12.485
and the school committee would wanna hear.
2584
02:05:12.665 --> 02:05:14.805
So I don't know. I haven't seen that list yet.
2585
02:05:14.965 --> 02:05:16.525
I can tell you the inkling I have is
2586
02:05:16.525 --> 02:05:18.405
that they're very familiar with
2587
02:05:18.405 --> 02:05:20.445
what the MSS BA is going to expect to see.
2588
02:05:20.505 --> 02:05:22.605
And so they have some suggestions on,
2589
02:05:23.365 --> 02:05:25.365
I don't wanna say misses, but maybe like a few
2590
02:05:25.365 --> 02:05:26.485
things that we could make stronger.
2591
02:05:26.635 --> 02:05:29.125
Okay. So that's more the kind of feedback.
2592
02:05:29.205 --> 02:05:30.285
I mean some of us have never done this
2593
02:05:30.285 --> 02:05:32.645
before, so we welcome that feedback
2594
02:05:32.725 --> 02:05:33.845
for somebody who does it all the time.
2595
02:05:34.275 --> 02:05:36.325
Okay. That, that's helpful for process.
2596
02:05:37.185 --> 02:05:40.685
And I appreciate the, the, how you read some of my questions
2597
02:05:40.785 --> 02:05:42.725
and incorporated them already into the process.
2598
02:05:43.745 --> 02:05:44.965
The reason, like I mentioned,
2599
02:05:45.065 --> 02:05:48.845
the outdoor space is essentially as we,
2600
02:05:49.825 --> 02:05:51.285
if we approve this
2601
02:05:53.465 --> 02:05:55.485
and it dictates a certain thing
2602
02:05:56.225 --> 02:05:58.405
to the school building committee, for example,
2603
02:05:58.405 --> 02:06:01.605
when I read this ED plan, this is not gonna be a renovation
2604
02:06:02.465 --> 02:06:04.925
for like, and I know that that's their decision to make.
2605
02:06:05.105 --> 02:06:07.525
But if we're saying that certain things are just really
2606
02:06:07.805 --> 02:06:10.525
obsolete, we can't see the front door,
2607
02:06:11.265 --> 02:06:14.005
the spaces are in the hallway, there's not enough storage.
2608
02:06:14.055 --> 02:06:16.125
Right. We're not talking about a renovation.
2609
02:06:16.185 --> 02:06:20.845
So I just think it's important that we know that we're
2610
02:06:20.845 --> 02:06:22.405
what we're saying with this document,
2611
02:06:22.635 --> 02:06:24.085
even sometimes without saying it,
2612
02:06:26.785 --> 02:06:29.805
So I, I understand your your point,
2613
02:06:30.605 --> 02:06:32.405
but you still have to go through the exercise.
2614
02:06:32.585 --> 02:06:36.325
And so it could take longer to renovate,
2615
02:06:36.355 --> 02:06:38.885
like it could actually take 24 months longer
2616
02:06:38.945 --> 02:06:41.045
to construct if you're gonna renovate
2617
02:06:41.045 --> 02:06:42.845
with kids in the building where you build sections
2618
02:06:43.225 --> 02:06:44.845
and you shuffle the kids around
2619
02:06:45.515 --> 02:06:47.845
like it could take a a lot longer to do.
2620
02:06:48.465 --> 02:06:49.925
And so there's a cost with that
2621
02:06:50.785 --> 02:06:53.285
and the committee may say, I don't want to pay for
2622
02:06:53.285 --> 02:06:56.285
that additional cost and all that time
2623
02:06:56.705 --> 02:06:58.205
to renovate an old building.
2624
02:06:58.425 --> 02:07:01.325
But some other communities might say we're keeping
2625
02:07:01.325 --> 02:07:04.205
that building, it's been a school for 150 years
2626
02:07:04.945 --> 02:07:05.965
and we like it.
2627
02:07:06.705 --> 02:07:08.925
And so the MSBA lets
2628
02:07:09.475 --> 02:07:13.565
each community decide what's the most preferred method
2629
02:07:13.625 --> 02:07:15.485
for them in their building on,
2630
02:07:15.745 --> 02:07:17.765
on whatever site they so choose.
2631
02:07:17.865 --> 02:07:19.405
So like that's where I try
2632
02:07:19.405 --> 02:07:21.405
to be careful about not getting too far ahead of,
2633
02:07:22.705 --> 02:07:23.805
of the building committee.
2634
02:07:24.385 --> 02:07:26.605
But for practical purposes,
2635
02:07:26.605 --> 02:07:30.645
some people would say two years longer, 10, 15, 20% more.
2636
02:07:31.065 --> 02:07:34.005
No, thank you. I, I would prefer another option,
2637
02:07:34.185 --> 02:07:36.725
but you know, we, we have to kind of go through the exercise
2638
02:07:36.725 --> 02:07:37.725
to look at those options.
2639
02:07:38.515 --> 02:07:40.485
Okay. I, I hear that point.
2640
02:07:42.505 --> 02:07:45.845
So I think it would be good
2641
02:07:45.845 --> 02:07:49.205
to talk about outdoor spaces just to see if it's, I guess I,
2642
02:07:49.205 --> 02:07:50.445
what I'm trying to get a sense of is
2643
02:07:50.445 --> 02:07:51.485
how big the building is,
2644
02:07:51.485 --> 02:07:53.805
because every square foot is gonna cost money.
2645
02:07:54.025 --> 02:07:57.365
And so that's like at some point, Melissa,
2646
02:07:57.565 --> 02:07:59.525
I have this from the Kennedy Middle School,
2647
02:08:01.225 --> 02:08:03.365
at some point you had this great quote to say,
2648
02:08:03.695 --> 02:08:05.685
we're gonna get the teaching done at the least
2649
02:08:05.715 --> 02:08:06.765
cost to the taxpayer.
2650
02:08:07.225 --> 02:08:09.645
And I think that's what this committee has to be committed
2651
02:08:09.645 --> 02:08:12.485
to at all of us that are gonna, you know,
2652
02:08:14.445 --> 02:08:15.645
I don't know if you remember saying that,
2653
02:08:15.785 --> 02:08:17.205
but I just thought that that was a
2654
02:08:17.205 --> 02:08:18.485
good succinct way of saying it.
2655
02:08:18.485 --> 02:08:21.205
Because when you talk about 30 classrooms
2656
02:08:21.205 --> 02:08:24.005
and then a half classroom between every, every classroom,
2657
02:08:24.745 --> 02:08:26.245
I'm curious about the square footage of that.
2658
02:08:26.355 --> 02:08:27.525
Like yes, that sounds ideal.
2659
02:08:30.805 --> 02:08:32.765
I don't know if I can have everything that's ideal.
2660
02:08:33.905 --> 02:08:35.645
Can I clarify that? Yeah, go ahead.
2661
02:08:35.785 --> 02:08:37.445
So when, I think when,
2662
02:08:38.665 --> 02:08:40.605
and this is great feedback to think about
2663
02:08:40.745 --> 02:08:43.285
how it's de described in the program.
2664
02:08:43.865 --> 02:08:45.405
So if you're thinking about a neighborhood,
2665
02:08:45.745 --> 02:08:48.765
if you have two classrooms, there's a space in between.
2666
02:08:48.825 --> 02:08:51.405
And then across the hall there's another two classrooms
2667
02:08:51.405 --> 02:08:53.685
and a space in between for that small group,
2668
02:08:54.105 --> 02:08:55.525
not necessarily every
2669
02:08:55.585 --> 02:08:57.845
Single, single
Classroom has a small space.
2670
02:08:58.035 --> 02:09:00.885
Okay. But just that as a community in
2671
02:09:00.885 --> 02:09:03.805
that little neighborhood, there's opportunity to provide,
2672
02:09:04.365 --> 02:09:06.605
Supports,
Special education supports,
2673
02:09:06.605 --> 02:09:09.365
intervention supports within that hub.
2674
02:09:09.635 --> 02:09:13.285
Yeah. So that children aren't having to travel across space
2675
02:09:13.905 --> 02:09:15.725
and that they're all kind of moving
2676
02:09:15.725 --> 02:09:17.685
around and getting what they need. Yeah.
2677
02:09:18.225 --> 02:09:20.645
And that, that I fully am on board with.
2678
02:09:20.805 --> 02:09:22.165
I just wanna be careful that what I'm,
2679
02:09:22.235 --> 02:09:25.885
what I say here doesn't get like, do you know what I mean?
2680
02:09:25.945 --> 02:09:29.485
No. Like doesn't get taken to a place
2681
02:09:29.485 --> 02:09:30.845
where like, we can't afford it.
2682
02:09:31.705 --> 02:09:32.705
So
2683
02:09:33.045 --> 02:09:34.045
I totally get that.
2684
02:09:34.045 --> 02:09:36.445
And I also don't want people to read the,
2685
02:09:36.505 --> 02:09:38.325
or we don't want people to read the program
2686
02:09:38.465 --> 02:09:39.485
and think that we're trying
2687
02:09:39.485 --> 02:09:41.165
to build a classroom and a half for every classroom.
2688
02:09:41.305 --> 02:09:43.525
Yes. It's silly. Exactly. That's
2689
02:09:43.795 --> 02:09:44.805
Okay. That's great to hear.
2690
02:09:44.805 --> 02:09:46.805
That's, I mean, you can imagine in a middle school model,
2691
02:09:46.825 --> 02:09:49.845
and we've been at Kennedy, those, those rooms are not kind
2692
02:09:49.845 --> 02:09:52.085
of sitting in between classrooms.
2693
02:09:52.085 --> 02:09:53.685
Yeah. But they're there. Yeah.
2694
02:09:54.305 --> 02:09:56.965
You can also, I mean, I don't, I think it is going
2695
02:09:56.965 --> 02:09:59.485
to be more square feet because right now our kids are taking
2696
02:09:59.485 --> 02:10:00.565
intervention in the hallway.
2697
02:10:00.835 --> 02:10:02.485
Yeah. So it just is
2698
02:10:02.485 --> 02:10:04.245
because kids learn differently these days.
2699
02:10:04.275 --> 02:10:06.525
Yeah. But I still stand by that quote. Yeah.
2700
02:10:06.705 --> 02:10:08.525
But it's not going to, we can't say equal
2701
02:10:08.525 --> 02:10:09.645
square footage, I don't think.
2702
02:10:11.155 --> 02:10:14.285
Well also the original building was built for 330 kids.
2703
02:10:14.395 --> 02:10:15.485
Well said. So it's Right.
2704
02:10:15.485 --> 02:10:18.405
It's not gonna be the same square footage. Okay.
2705
02:10:18.405 --> 02:10:21.805
So one more question is about, I guess one thought, again,
2706
02:10:21.885 --> 02:10:23.885
I taught in basically the 1980s
2707
02:10:24.615 --> 02:10:26.685
where time on learning was always a
2708
02:10:26.685 --> 02:10:27.765
phrase that was used for us.
2709
02:10:27.945 --> 02:10:31.085
And so when I think about like time on learning,
2710
02:10:31.145 --> 02:10:32.365
I'm thinking about bathroom breaks
2711
02:10:32.665 --> 02:10:34.285
and it sounds, it's like great
2712
02:10:34.285 --> 02:10:36.205
that there's gonna be bathrooms in the kindergarten room
2713
02:10:36.205 --> 02:10:37.205
and in the gymnasium.
2714
02:10:37.945 --> 02:10:41.005
But I'm, one thing that we heard from the Kennedy project is
2715
02:10:41.005 --> 02:10:42.685
that there are times where students have
2716
02:10:42.685 --> 02:10:43.925
to go too far to the bathroom.
2717
02:10:45.065 --> 02:10:47.965
So I don't see a lot of details about the bathrooms in terms
2718
02:10:47.965 --> 02:10:51.965
of how it relates to learning in this iteration.
2719
02:10:52.325 --> 02:10:53.365
I may have missed it, but
2720
02:10:53.365 --> 02:10:55.365
that was just one thought that came to me. That's
2721
02:10:55.365 --> 02:10:56.365
Helpful.
2722
02:10:56.365 --> 02:10:56.885
Thank you. That is helpful.
2723
02:10:57.265 --> 02:11:00.285
And the idea is that if we have a learning neighborhood
2724
02:11:00.285 --> 02:11:02.965
that's going to house a hundred to 125 students,
2725
02:11:02.965 --> 02:11:04.325
there'll be a bank of bathrooms.
2726
02:11:04.395 --> 02:11:07.725
Yeah. That would include like a single, a single stall
2727
02:11:08.465 --> 02:11:09.805
for students to access
2728
02:11:10.225 --> 02:11:12.005
and then also a girl's room and a boy's room.
2729
02:11:12.275 --> 02:11:15.685
Yeah.
Yeah. And an adult bathroom.
2730
02:11:16.205 --> 02:11:17.045
I don't know if you know this,
2731
02:11:17.065 --> 02:11:18.085
but I'm gonna share it with you.
2732
02:11:18.365 --> 02:11:22.245
Memorial School has four, no, has three adult bathrooms.
2733
02:11:22.705 --> 02:11:26.045
One is off the kitchen. That is hard to access,
2734
02:11:26.055 --> 02:11:27.325
especially when they're cooking.
2735
02:11:27.425 --> 02:11:30.605
But there's three bathrooms for 75 plus staff
2736
02:11:30.665 --> 02:11:33.405
to use over the course of a day. It's not pretty.
2737
02:11:33.675 --> 02:11:36.325
Yeah.
So the,
2738
02:11:36.585 --> 02:11:38.885
the state building code has some standards for that.
2739
02:11:40.025 --> 02:11:41.285
And the architects will ask.
2740
02:11:41.305 --> 02:11:45.045
And ultimately the floor plan that gets approved by
2741
02:11:46.945 --> 02:11:50.965
the desi, you know, for equity purposes, bathrooms,
2742
02:11:50.965 --> 02:11:53.205
and where the special education spaces are
2743
02:11:53.665 --> 02:11:54.885
all sort of get factored in.
2744
02:11:54.885 --> 02:11:58.325
So that'll be significantly better than what we have now.
2745
02:11:58.425 --> 02:11:59.685
So it, it's usually not,
2746
02:12:00.035 --> 02:12:02.405
I've never seen it written into an educational plan
2747
02:12:03.485 --> 02:12:05.165
'cause it usually gets worked out so
2748
02:12:05.165 --> 02:12:08.125
that we're not worried about spending too much time
2749
02:12:08.915 --> 02:12:11.245
with kids going all the way across the other end
2750
02:12:11.245 --> 02:12:12.525
of the building to get to the bathroom.
2751
02:12:12.715 --> 02:12:15.325
Yeah. We all know bathrooms are important. Right.
2752
02:12:15.465 --> 02:12:18.645
So it should be in the ED plan. And just one more question.
2753
02:12:18.645 --> 02:12:19.685
You've just mentioned the kitchen.
2754
02:12:20.325 --> 02:12:23.605
I was cur curious about why the kitchen is bigger than
2755
02:12:23.605 --> 02:12:27.245
what the MSBA, at least in by numbers in the document.
2756
02:12:27.795 --> 02:12:30.125
It's bigger, a little bit bigger. Is that
2757
02:12:30.155 --> 02:12:31.155
Yeah.
2758
02:12:31.155 --> 02:12:32.605
Yeah. That was some, some draft notes for me.
2759
02:12:34.025 --> 02:12:36.365
You know, to have like a, a staff cafe,
2760
02:12:36.905 --> 02:12:39.165
dining area near the student dining area,
2761
02:12:39.615 --> 02:12:41.445
especially if you're gonna have two lunches
2762
02:12:42.015 --> 02:12:44.285
would be more helpful.
2763
02:12:45.385 --> 02:12:47.645
And the, the formula for that is pretty small.
2764
02:12:47.845 --> 02:12:50.685
I think it would be 250 some odd square feet.
2765
02:12:51.105 --> 02:12:54.285
You can't have 40, 50 staff trying
2766
02:12:54.285 --> 02:12:55.685
to eat lunch in, in that area.
2767
02:12:56.025 --> 02:13:00.165
Ah. So there's a formula for spaces
2768
02:13:00.385 --> 02:13:02.245
and then there's, when you add them all up,
2769
02:13:02.585 --> 02:13:03.965
you have the formula for the building.
2770
02:13:04.145 --> 02:13:06.125
So there might be some opportunities
2771
02:13:06.225 --> 02:13:08.565
to save some square feet in other areas to do that.
2772
02:13:08.795 --> 02:13:10.845
Okay. And if not, not,
2773
02:13:11.025 --> 02:13:14.245
but you know, the, the architects are usually pretty good at
2774
02:13:14.245 --> 02:13:16.965
trying to help you get everything that you're asking for.
2775
02:13:17.555 --> 02:13:21.205
Okay. And is this the place where we put the, like,
2776
02:13:21.395 --> 02:13:22.965
like you Chris you mentioned like
2777
02:13:22.965 --> 02:13:24.445
that I love that science part.
2778
02:13:24.445 --> 02:13:26.565
Those pages 14 and 15. I thought that was awesome.
2779
02:13:27.265 --> 02:13:29.725
Is this where you would put, for example,
2780
02:13:29.725 --> 02:13:33.725
something like composting or For sure a dishwasher.
2781
02:13:33.995 --> 02:13:35.405
Like is that part
2782
02:13:35.405 --> 02:13:37.445
of the educational plan in terms of science?
2783
02:13:38.555 --> 02:13:40.965
Well, as part of the sustainability conversation,
2784
02:13:41.065 --> 02:13:44.165
we wanted to highlight ways the building can be used in,
2785
02:13:44.225 --> 02:13:45.845
in a teachable way.
2786
02:13:47.705 --> 02:13:48.965
But if something like,
2787
02:13:48.995 --> 02:13:52.245
like composting would certainly fit in those environmental
2788
02:13:52.245 --> 02:13:53.285
science standards
2789
02:13:53.665 --> 02:13:55.845
and renewable resources and things like that.
2790
02:13:58.335 --> 02:14:02.315
But then it's kind of up to how the program is run
2791
02:14:02.375 --> 02:14:03.435
as to how it gets taught.
2792
02:14:04.665 --> 02:14:09.155
Okay.
We do compost at memorial school every day. Yeah.
2793
02:14:09.615 --> 02:14:11.235
We want, we would continue to do that.
2794
02:14:12.055 --> 02:14:14.315
But to have a space that's already designed instead
2795
02:14:14.315 --> 02:14:16.595
of rebuilding it every day, that would be lovely too.
2796
02:14:18.535 --> 02:14:22.435
Ms. Collins. Oh sorry Jamie,
2797
02:14:22.455 --> 02:14:26.155
did you jump the line?
2798
02:14:28.175 --> 02:14:33.075
Dr. Sp, as you pointed out, this is not traditionally
2799
02:14:33.815 --> 02:14:34.915
the purview of the school
2800
02:14:34.915 --> 02:14:36.115
department or the school committee.
2801
02:14:37.035 --> 02:14:38.515
I don't know that it's not the purview.
2802
02:14:38.595 --> 02:14:40.395
I just don't know that they always vote. Right.
2803
02:14:41.105 --> 02:14:43.475
What is our purview, however is the budget.
2804
02:14:43.815 --> 02:14:46.715
Yes.
Clearly ours.
2805
02:14:49.285 --> 02:14:53.145
Before I'm comfortable voting on anything which isn't being
2806
02:14:53.145 --> 02:14:54.465
asked of me for a couple of weeks.
2807
02:14:55.385 --> 02:14:59.145
I would like to have some idea of what the staffing costs
2808
02:14:59.805 --> 02:15:02.105
change is from.
2809
02:15:02.205 --> 02:15:05.745
That's fair. If we're moving MLS and SPED
2810
02:15:05.845 --> 02:15:09.985
and things like that, I just, I need to understand
2811
02:15:10.175 --> 02:15:12.745
what those costs would involve
2812
02:15:15.085 --> 02:15:16.625
before I can say yes.
2813
02:15:16.785 --> 02:15:17.785
I want all of those things.
2814
02:15:19.575 --> 02:15:20.705
It's a little bit complicated.
2815
02:15:20.725 --> 02:15:22.185
So we're gonna have to do some thinking on it.
2816
02:15:22.185 --> 02:15:23.585
Only because this is a five,
2817
02:15:23.725 --> 02:15:25.145
you're asking a very fair thing.
2818
02:15:26.045 --> 02:15:29.985
But my initial thinking is this is a 570 student school
2819
02:15:30.005 --> 02:15:31.385
as opposed to a 411.
2820
02:15:31.885 --> 02:15:35.265
So it sort of assumes some movement of other in staffing.
2821
02:15:35.285 --> 02:15:36.305
You see what I'm saying? Right.
2822
02:15:36.305 --> 02:15:38.265
But if we're just moving it with, and I'm not saying
2823
02:15:38.405 --> 02:15:41.625
You want the net cost change
Within memorial's budget.
2824
02:15:41.625 --> 02:15:43.545
Yeah. I'm saying cost in the district. Yep.
2825
02:15:43.565 --> 02:15:48.105
If we're moving somebody from another school over that Yeah.
2826
02:15:48.245 --> 02:15:49.945
You know, they may not like the commute, but
2827
02:15:50.005 --> 02:15:51.905
We can make some basic assumptions to give.
2828
02:15:52.165 --> 02:15:54.185
I'm okay on that. Got it. Sorry Mr. Wood.
2829
02:15:55.685 --> 02:15:59.705
But if we're adding, you know, we need to now have more of
2830
02:16:00.305 --> 02:16:01.905
X whatever X is.
2831
02:16:05.205 --> 02:16:07.505
And the other thing I Dr.
2832
02:16:07.665 --> 02:16:10.585
PI just wanted to point out that I appreciated your
2833
02:16:11.455 --> 02:16:13.185
clarification of the word neighborhood
2834
02:16:14.215 --> 02:16:17.825
because it is MCAS nomenclature
2835
02:16:17.845 --> 02:16:19.265
and it is not a gu.
2836
02:16:19.445 --> 02:16:21.345
And I realize what I'm gonna say is going
2837
02:16:21.345 --> 02:16:24.825
to late half the town and disappoint the other half.
2838
02:16:25.815 --> 02:16:28.905
It's not saying that only kids
2839
02:16:30.555 --> 02:16:35.095
who will, who are districted to Memorial will be in the,
2840
02:16:35.235 --> 02:16:36.935
in this preschool Correct.
2841
02:16:37.195 --> 02:16:39.135
Or anything like that.
2842
02:16:39.805 --> 02:16:44.615
There's nothing, there's no, this is a town asset.
2843
02:16:44.805 --> 02:16:45.935
It's rehousing things
2844
02:16:45.935 --> 02:16:47.895
that are at the high school over today. Them basically.
2845
02:16:47.895 --> 02:16:49.575
Right. And but that, I just wanna make sure
2846
02:16:49.575 --> 02:16:51.855
that people understand that, you know, somebody
2847
02:16:51.855 --> 02:16:53.775
who lives over on Hartford Street,
2848
02:16:54.495 --> 02:16:56.695
'cause it's the furthest street I can think of from Memorial
2849
02:16:59.915 --> 02:17:02.415
has an equal opportunity to be Yeah.
2850
02:17:02.515 --> 02:17:03.515
In the preschool.
2851
02:17:04.415 --> 02:17:07.415
Yeah. I'm not sure how long we have to carry
2852
02:17:07.415 --> 02:17:09.455
that neighborhood nomenclature forward,
2853
02:17:09.915 --> 02:17:11.095
but it is the stuff that's
2854
02:17:11.095 --> 02:17:12.175
in the SOI. Right. But I just want,
2855
02:17:12.235 --> 02:17:13.415
For people who are listening, thank you.
2856
02:17:13.415 --> 02:17:16.895
To be clear that it, it's not just a,
2857
02:17:17.715 --> 02:17:21.735
an memorial truly I know isn't no longer a South Natick
2858
02:17:21.905 --> 02:17:24.135
thing, but I don't want people to come away thinking,
2859
02:17:24.135 --> 02:17:25.575
oh they're gonna get preference in
2860
02:17:26.135 --> 02:17:28.695
memorial in preschool placements or anything else.
2861
02:17:28.835 --> 02:17:32.295
That's, I just wanna make sure that we're clear about that.
2862
02:17:32.715 --> 02:17:35.135
And it is the state's nomenclature.
2863
02:17:35.155 --> 02:17:36.855
We have to play by their rules. I get that.
2864
02:17:37.115 --> 02:17:38.375
Yep. So well,
2865
02:17:38.375 --> 02:17:39.335
let's also just go make sure
2866
02:17:39.335 --> 02:17:40.495
it's really clear in the document.
2867
02:17:41.265 --> 02:17:43.095
Great. That's really good. Thank you.
2868
02:17:43.995 --> 02:17:45.935
And I'm set. Alright
Mr. Patel.
2869
02:17:46.725 --> 02:17:48.815
Alright. Not really questions
2870
02:17:48.815 --> 02:17:50.855
but a few thoughts all over the place.
2871
02:17:50.855 --> 02:17:52.095
But I'll try and organize them here.
2872
02:17:53.755 --> 02:17:56.775
So first to start off with the good comments.
2873
02:17:56.955 --> 02:17:59.575
So I really appreciated the community and
2874
02:17:59.575 --> 02:18:02.455
after you hours use aspect of it, having
2875
02:18:03.285 --> 02:18:06.215
clearly identified entrances and accessible bathrooms
2876
02:18:06.595 --> 02:18:08.495
and secure boundaries that allow evening
2877
02:18:08.515 --> 02:18:10.695
and weekend use while maintaining
2878
02:18:11.015 --> 02:18:12.095
security in the rest of the schools.
2879
02:18:12.935 --> 02:18:15.455
I recently had the pleasure of visiting Wayland High School
2880
02:18:15.555 --> 02:18:17.175
for a Indian event
2881
02:18:17.675 --> 02:18:21.135
and the gym was a rented portion for the main half.
2882
02:18:21.155 --> 02:18:23.335
And then the cafeteria was the other
2883
02:18:23.435 --> 02:18:24.815
for the food portion of it.
2884
02:18:25.195 --> 02:18:27.375
But they were both on completely opposite
2885
02:18:27.415 --> 02:18:28.535
portions of the school.
2886
02:18:28.955 --> 02:18:30.255
So you had to literally walk
2887
02:18:30.255 --> 02:18:32.775
through the entire school in the hallway going
2888
02:18:32.775 --> 02:18:34.215
through the classroom hallways.
2889
02:18:34.405 --> 02:18:36.695
They had to borrow like, I think they had like caution tape
2890
02:18:36.715 --> 02:18:38.695
to prevent people from going to the classrooms.
2891
02:18:39.075 --> 02:18:42.615
And if we intend on using any of our schools for that sort
2892
02:18:42.615 --> 02:18:45.415
of just gym and cafeteria, I think it'd be great
2893
02:18:45.415 --> 02:18:49.415
to have them sort of independent of the rest of the school
2894
02:18:49.415 --> 02:18:53.015
that you can use them without having the staff have
2895
02:18:53.015 --> 02:18:55.175
to maintain and clean up the whole school
2896
02:18:55.175 --> 02:18:56.415
instead of just those parts.
2897
02:18:58.155 --> 02:18:59.615
So that's just a thought from, you know,
2898
02:18:59.615 --> 02:19:00.655
observation from there.
2899
02:19:01.995 --> 02:19:05.175
And with regards to the rest of the education plan,
2900
02:19:05.535 --> 02:19:08.815
I did notice that the plan, you know, has like a page
2901
02:19:08.815 --> 02:19:09.895
and a half on technology.
2902
02:19:10.235 --> 02:19:12.375
And I understand that, you know, technology is the future.
2903
02:19:12.555 --> 02:19:14.495
But as we're seeing with a lot of the public,
2904
02:19:15.675 --> 02:19:16.855
public speak comments
2905
02:19:17.035 --> 02:19:19.655
and everything that perhaps, you know,
2906
02:19:20.075 --> 02:19:21.935
we may be reliant on it too much
2907
02:19:21.935 --> 02:19:24.935
and the exposure might be going in a negative direction.
2908
02:19:25.355 --> 02:19:28.165
And as opposed to, in contrast,
2909
02:19:28.585 --> 02:19:31.365
the words outdoor learning were in there only once.
2910
02:19:32.105 --> 02:19:34.965
And I remember being in school myself
2911
02:19:35.105 --> 02:19:38.685
and being super excited about going outside once
2912
02:19:39.065 --> 02:19:40.925
and when the weather got warm for a class.
2913
02:19:40.975 --> 02:19:43.165
Right. That was a fond memory for me.
2914
02:19:43.185 --> 02:19:47.285
And I know my nephew's first complaint going into middle
2915
02:19:47.285 --> 02:19:49.765
school was not having recess time.
2916
02:19:50.225 --> 02:19:52.765
So I feel like if there was some sort
2917
02:19:52.765 --> 02:19:54.725
of outdoor learning space that was dedicated
2918
02:19:55.035 --> 02:19:57.205
that the teachers or the students could use
2919
02:19:57.225 --> 02:19:58.285
on a regular basis.
2920
02:19:58.625 --> 02:20:01.085
And I don't just mean like benches where they can sit or,
2921
02:20:01.145 --> 02:20:02.245
but you know, like those,
2922
02:20:03.905 --> 02:20:06.635
like there are like mini tiny mini auditorium bank things,
2923
02:20:06.735 --> 02:20:08.035
but I dunno how to describe it.
2924
02:20:08.035 --> 02:20:09.475
It, I have a picture of it. Theater. Yeah, theater.
2925
02:20:09.475 --> 02:20:11.835
Thank you. Yeah. Have a theater. Yes. That's the one.
2926
02:20:13.215 --> 02:20:15.395
So something like that would be cool I think
2927
02:20:15.575 --> 02:20:18.115
for the students just to get some sunlight and everything
2928
02:20:18.255 --> 02:20:22.355
and, and also, you know, hopefully away from all the texts
2929
02:20:22.355 --> 02:20:23.475
and the screens that most
2930
02:20:23.475 --> 02:20:25.195
of our classrooms are filled with nowadays.
2931
02:20:26.935 --> 02:20:28.515
So that's, you know, there's something.
2932
02:20:28.695 --> 02:20:31.075
So, I mean, you know, one of the comments is that I don't,
2933
02:20:31.995 --> 02:20:34.955
I don't want us to over tech the rooms either.
2934
02:20:37.655 --> 02:20:39.465
It's just like the neighborhood schools in regards
2935
02:20:39.465 --> 02:20:42.025
to different grades.
2936
02:20:42.535 --> 02:20:45.385
It'd be nice to have like the kindergarten space have way
2937
02:20:45.385 --> 02:20:50.265
fewer screens and texts than like the older ones.
2938
02:20:50.265 --> 02:20:52.465
I understand the older kids need to understand how typing
2939
02:20:52.605 --> 02:20:54.705
and take tests on iPads and things like that.
2940
02:20:54.805 --> 02:20:58.145
But it would be nice to have some sort of, you know, just
2941
02:20:58.145 --> 02:20:59.985
because all these tech leaders
2942
02:21:00.125 --> 02:21:02.505
and their kids are sending their kids to tech free
2943
02:21:02.605 --> 02:21:04.745
or low tech schools for a reason
2944
02:21:04.925 --> 02:21:07.505
and it may be possible 2, 5, 2
2945
02:21:07.505 --> 02:21:10.585
or five years down the line, we really realize the impact
2946
02:21:10.605 --> 02:21:12.465
of tech is having on our children
2947
02:21:12.525 --> 02:21:13.825
and may wanna move away from that.
2948
02:21:14.125 --> 02:21:16.305
And then the last thing to consider
2949
02:21:16.365 --> 02:21:19.345
for the tech portion is the recurring talk costs.
2950
02:21:19.795 --> 02:21:21.705
Right? A wall
2951
02:21:21.705 --> 02:21:25.465
or chalkboard doesn't have as much replacement cost as a,
2952
02:21:25.825 --> 02:21:28.065
a TV or a projector.
2953
02:21:28.325 --> 02:21:29.745
So, or you know, clickers,
2954
02:21:33.065 --> 02:21:34.545
I wanna just respond to that briefly.
2955
02:21:35.515 --> 02:21:36.825
Appreciate the comments.
2956
02:21:37.005 --> 02:21:39.505
And I mean, I kind of wrote into my notes like that waiting
2957
02:21:39.505 --> 02:21:41.505
of outdoor spaces was the heck in the report.
2958
02:21:41.885 --> 02:21:43.505
But also we were pretty intentional
2959
02:21:43.605 --> 02:21:46.105
and we debated a lot on our technology slide
2960
02:21:46.105 --> 02:21:48.865
that Mr. Roach presented.
2961
02:21:49.005 --> 02:21:51.785
And you know, our first one was to almost take a look at
2962
02:21:51.785 --> 02:21:55.465
how we presented it and the p previously we backed off of it
2963
02:21:55.625 --> 02:21:58.865
'cause we're like, we do not wanna present a device plan
2964
02:21:59.005 --> 02:22:00.265
before we roll out.
2965
02:22:00.575 --> 02:22:03.985
What we said we'd roll out is a strategic vision for
2966
02:22:03.985 --> 02:22:05.545
what we, how we wanna handle tech.
2967
02:22:06.005 --> 02:22:07.865
And so it really is go.
2968
02:22:07.925 --> 02:22:09.985
But then we said, well, devices aren't part of the building.
2969
02:22:10.605 --> 02:22:12.265
And we confirmed with Matt
2970
02:22:12.335 --> 02:22:14.705
that they weren't necessarily gonna be covered
2971
02:22:14.705 --> 02:22:15.825
by the reimbursement rate.
2972
02:22:15.965 --> 02:22:17.225
So we felt safe in doing that.
2973
02:22:17.565 --> 02:22:19.785
So what we kind of said was presentation systems,
2974
02:22:19.935 --> 02:22:21.305
that, that's necessary.
2975
02:22:22.225 --> 02:22:23.585
I I agree. We shouldn't over tech
2976
02:22:23.585 --> 02:22:24.625
it up in an elementary school.
2977
02:22:25.205 --> 02:22:27.445
Wireless a access teachers need that alone.
2978
02:22:27.625 --> 02:22:29.965
Let you know, even our systems, the phones need that.
2979
02:22:31.085 --> 02:22:33.805
Assisted listening systems and then storage and charging.
2980
02:22:33.985 --> 02:22:36.125
We were really basic on that, on purpose
2981
02:22:36.435 --> 02:22:38.925
because we don't want to prescribe what we,
2982
02:22:38.925 --> 02:22:40.565
what we would need without going through the process.
2983
02:22:41.025 --> 02:22:43.205
We, the community and with this committee.
2984
02:22:45.665 --> 02:22:49.645
Oh, and the last thing about just field space, I know
2985
02:22:49.645 --> 02:22:51.005
that's also part of learning too.
2986
02:22:51.025 --> 02:22:52.045
And I, I
2987
02:22:52.045 --> 02:22:53.765
Hope that you said the word. Yeah.
2988
02:22:53.775 --> 02:22:55.565
Sorry
You said field. Yeah.
2989
02:22:56.605 --> 02:22:58.525
I just hope we're able to maintain the field space
2990
02:23:00.425 --> 02:23:01.685
to the level that it is currently.
2991
02:23:01.785 --> 02:23:03.125
We, yeah.
2992
02:23:05.605 --> 02:23:07.045
I don't think that fits in here though.
2993
02:23:07.225 --> 02:23:09.525
So wanna throw that out there. But thank you.
2994
02:23:10.345 --> 02:23:12.605
It doesn't fit in here, but it's an important part
2995
02:23:12.625 --> 02:23:14.565
to include as part of our programming
2996
02:23:14.565 --> 02:23:16.645
and that's something that we will add.
2997
02:23:18.575 --> 02:23:20.805
Other questions? Ms. Corset?
2998
02:23:22.055 --> 02:23:24.885
Thank you. It's exciting to see this kinda start
2999
02:23:24.885 --> 02:23:26.885
to come together in imagining what it would be.
3000
02:23:27.425 --> 02:23:28.885
So I had a couple of questions
3001
02:23:29.465 --> 02:23:32.165
and one was, was there any sort of
3002
02:23:33.965 --> 02:23:36.165
consideration made to what we have in our
3003
02:23:36.165 --> 02:23:37.285
other elementary schools?
3004
02:23:37.355 --> 02:23:39.045
Like the good and the bad?
3005
02:23:39.395 --> 02:23:41.365
Like what really works then we would like
3006
02:23:41.365 --> 02:23:43.285
to extend into any new school,
3007
02:23:43.875 --> 02:23:45.485
like something we would always want
3008
02:23:46.065 --> 02:23:48.165
or things that maybe are school specific
3009
02:23:48.555 --> 02:23:49.765
that we could consider.
3010
02:23:50.225 --> 02:23:51.365
And I guess I'm thinking
3011
02:23:51.365 --> 02:23:56.165
of like the outdoor garden space at Lilja, you know, and,
3012
02:23:56.225 --> 02:23:57.645
and how they have the opportunity
3013
02:23:57.745 --> 02:23:59.805
to have the multi-age classrooms.
3014
02:24:00.345 --> 02:24:04.605
You know, would this education plan kind
3015
02:24:04.605 --> 02:24:06.405
of allow those possibilities?
3016
02:24:08.045 --> 02:24:10.045
I know that you didn't address the outdoor space,
3017
02:24:10.145 --> 02:24:12.685
but I think the idea that you would wanna have outdoor
3018
02:24:12.885 --> 02:24:14.605
learning has been mentioned by others,
3019
02:24:15.505 --> 02:24:19.005
but I think I'd wanna hear a little bit more about
3020
02:24:19.265 --> 02:24:23.485
how this will provide like a similar learning experience
3021
02:24:23.545 --> 02:24:26.005
for all the other elementary school students across the
3022
02:24:26.205 --> 02:24:30.725
district, just so that we kind of understand that.
3023
02:24:32.105 --> 02:24:33.105
But I am excited.
3024
02:24:36.385 --> 02:24:39.285
So y so we did consider that
3025
02:24:39.585 --> 02:24:42.165
and we did as a team go
3026
02:24:42.225 --> 02:24:45.605
and visit different schools, including Bennett Hemingway,
3027
02:24:45.605 --> 02:24:47.805
which is our newest of the elementary schools.
3028
02:24:48.785 --> 02:24:51.565
And having lived in that space intimately for a couple
3029
02:24:51.565 --> 02:24:55.285
of years, knowing what was great about it
3030
02:24:55.285 --> 02:24:56.845
and what was not great about it.
3031
02:24:57.105 --> 02:25:00.885
So planning forward some of the things that looked great
3032
02:25:00.985 --> 02:25:02.885
but weren't really functional from a,
3033
02:25:02.915 --> 02:25:04.405
from an educational perspective.
3034
02:25:04.985 --> 02:25:06.845
And then what were some of the missed opportunities
3035
02:25:06.915 --> 02:25:08.045
that were designed for,
3036
02:25:08.105 --> 02:25:10.165
but not really implemented with integrity
3037
02:25:10.425 --> 02:25:12.845
or never really just kind of took, took off.
3038
02:25:14.105 --> 02:25:17.565
We also were able to visit schools in Lexington schools,
3039
02:25:17.625 --> 02:25:19.725
in Shrewsbury schools in Marlboro.
3040
02:25:19.725 --> 02:25:22.765
Like we were able to see a whole host of different styles
3041
02:25:23.305 --> 02:25:28.285
and things that the administrators
3042
02:25:28.285 --> 02:25:30.645
and the people living in the building were able to say,
3043
02:25:31.105 --> 02:25:34.285
you know, that wall's really pretty, it's a waste of space.
3044
02:25:34.695 --> 02:25:38.805
Right? So we kind of came to the table to develop this plan
3045
02:25:38.805 --> 02:25:42.965
as like, let's be practical, logical, and efficient,
3046
02:25:43.625 --> 02:25:46.285
and let's make sure that everything has a purpose.
3047
02:25:46.675 --> 02:25:48.445
Like we're not here to, to
3048
02:25:50.625 --> 02:25:51.965
pretty walls are beautiful
3049
02:25:52.745 --> 02:25:54.645
and if they don't serve a function
3050
02:25:54.745 --> 02:25:57.085
or they don't add to our community,
3051
02:25:57.555 --> 02:25:59.085
then it's a pretty wall, right?
3052
02:25:59.305 --> 02:26:02.565
So let's make it interactive, let's make it something
3053
02:26:02.995 --> 02:26:05.485
that we can use in the service of our students.
3054
02:26:05.865 --> 02:26:07.445
So we did talk about
3055
02:26:07.445 --> 02:26:08.805
that intentionally when we
3056
02:26:08.805 --> 02:26:10.045
were starting to put this together.
3057
02:26:10.515 --> 02:26:12.085
When it comes to outdoor space.
3058
02:26:13.815 --> 02:26:16.525
Personally, we have an organic farm next door,
3059
02:26:16.625 --> 02:26:19.885
and if we stay in our current space, I would love
3060
02:26:19.885 --> 02:26:21.525
to build our programming with them
3061
02:26:22.055 --> 02:26:24.765
where our students are more hands on in that space
3062
02:26:25.195 --> 02:26:27.325
because they are on school grounds
3063
02:26:27.385 --> 02:26:29.365
and we can go over there whenever we want.
3064
02:26:29.805 --> 02:26:32.685
Hmm. But we would wanna do it with intention
3065
02:26:32.705 --> 02:26:34.765
and purpose, but that's different.
3066
02:26:34.825 --> 02:26:37.165
That's like, I'm not sure I'm supposed to say that.
3067
02:26:37.405 --> 02:26:40.125
'cause that's a, that's an opportunity that we have
3068
02:26:40.355 --> 02:26:41.965
that not all other buildings have.
3069
02:26:43.705 --> 02:26:46.005
So those are all things that we think about
3070
02:26:46.385 --> 02:26:47.685
and how we use the space
3071
02:26:47.685 --> 02:26:49.165
that we have to do the things we do.
3072
02:26:49.515 --> 02:26:50.485
Yeah. No, I appreciate that.
3073
02:26:50.485 --> 02:26:51.445
May I ask a follow up question?
3074
02:26:51.585 --> 02:26:53.525
Yes. So, or maybe I, I comment.
3075
02:26:53.865 --> 02:26:56.125
So I think, and I, I appreciate that
3076
02:26:56.125 --> 02:26:58.605
and I think that did, that did come through in terms of like
3077
02:26:58.605 --> 02:27:00.845
what the, what the learning experience would be.
3078
02:27:01.005 --> 02:27:03.525
I guess I'm more thinking we're gonna have one
3079
02:27:04.455 --> 02:27:08.285
shiny new elementary school that will house, you know, 570
3080
02:27:08.305 --> 02:27:09.965
of our learners and then we're gonna
3081
02:27:09.965 --> 02:27:11.805
have three other schools.
3082
02:27:11.855 --> 02:27:14.725
Right? So how, how do we ensure
3083
02:27:15.475 --> 02:27:17.645
that we're not creating inequity?
3084
02:27:18.675 --> 02:27:20.885
Sure. Right? Like what are, what are things
3085
02:27:20.885 --> 02:27:22.885
that we're gonna be able to provide at Memorial
3086
02:27:22.915 --> 02:27:25.165
that might just look a little different but are
3087
02:27:25.445 --> 02:27:27.045
provided at all our other elementary schools
3088
02:27:27.145 --> 02:27:30.445
and how do we communicate that to all of our families?
3089
02:27:30.595 --> 02:27:31.595
Sure.
3090
02:27:32.105 --> 02:27:35.285
So I think where I started to go with my Ben Hem analogy,
3091
02:27:35.465 --> 02:27:37.485
but failed to land it was that
3092
02:27:40.505 --> 02:27:43.445
the idea of neighborhood spaces and grade level wings
3093
02:27:43.445 --> 02:27:45.205
and shared collaboration spaces.
3094
02:27:46.195 --> 02:27:48.005
They might not have half classrooms,
3095
02:27:48.025 --> 02:27:49.925
but they definitely have shared space
3096
02:27:50.255 --> 02:27:52.685
where they can come together as a whole community,
3097
02:27:52.715 --> 02:27:55.725
like a grade level community within their hallway,
3098
02:27:55.745 --> 02:27:57.325
within their grade level wing.
3099
02:27:58.145 --> 02:28:00.645
And that's something we just don't have,
3100
02:28:00.745 --> 02:28:03.285
unless everybody wants to come sit in the lobby of memorial,
3101
02:28:03.295 --> 02:28:05.045
which is expansive.
3102
02:28:05.825 --> 02:28:07.485
It like it's not, doesn't happen.
3103
02:28:09.545 --> 02:28:12.325
So we were thinking about that Lilja
3104
02:28:12.865 --> 02:28:15.605
and Brown, I'm not sure how they accommodate for that.
3105
02:28:15.925 --> 02:28:18.205
'cause they, I know Lilja has that beautiful, like the,
3106
02:28:18.425 --> 02:28:20.405
the stacked seating outside the main door.
3107
02:28:20.405 --> 02:28:22.250
And I see grade levels meeting there when
3108
02:28:22.250 --> 02:28:23.310
I go over for meetings.
3109
02:28:23.965 --> 02:28:25.965
I think it exists in different spaces,
3110
02:28:26.145 --> 02:28:27.165
but it looks different.
3111
02:28:27.785 --> 02:28:31.685
So my goal would be that we would have that similar space so
3112
02:28:31.685 --> 02:28:34.245
that kids could come together in a smaller group
3113
02:28:35.595 --> 02:28:37.045
without having to displace
3114
02:28:37.585 --> 02:28:41.365
or only be able to do it as we schedule around programming.
3115
02:28:41.365 --> 02:28:43.005
We have to wait for the calf to be empty
3116
02:28:43.025 --> 02:28:44.165
or the gym to be empty
3117
02:28:44.625 --> 02:28:46.725
and interrupt programming that happens there.
3118
02:28:47.985 --> 02:28:49.765
So we do think of, we did think about that.
3119
02:28:50.255 --> 02:28:52.445
Thank you.
Go ahead. Mad.
3120
02:28:53.945 --> 02:28:55.605
So Ms.
3121
02:28:55.815 --> 02:28:57.405
Goeth also to answer that question,
3122
02:28:58.385 --> 02:29:01.645
the education programs know 60 pages or so.
3123
02:29:02.305 --> 02:29:03.325
The, the plans
3124
02:29:03.385 --> 02:29:06.445
and the specifications for the building will be hundreds
3125
02:29:06.445 --> 02:29:08.405
of pages and a good 30, 40 pounds.
3126
02:29:08.545 --> 02:29:11.125
So there's a lot of questions left to be answered
3127
02:29:11.125 --> 02:29:12.685
before the building gets gets built.
3128
02:29:13.265 --> 02:29:17.285
But we, we won't really be designing spaces for services
3129
02:29:17.315 --> 02:29:20.605
that we don't provide and staff that we don't, don't have.
3130
02:29:21.265 --> 02:29:25.285
So I guess the exception would be if we were running a
3131
02:29:25.285 --> 02:29:29.565
special education program kind of uniquely to that building,
3132
02:29:29.585 --> 02:29:30.765
but for the district as a whole,
3133
02:29:31.275 --> 02:29:33.005
that space could look a little different
3134
02:29:33.625 --> 02:29:35.205
but probably won't look too different.
3135
02:29:35.235 --> 02:29:40.005
Like a, a classroom's still gonna be 800 to 900 square feet,
3136
02:29:40.155 --> 02:29:41.765
half classrooms will be half size.
3137
02:29:41.815 --> 02:29:44.485
Third of the classrooms for a really small group instruction
3138
02:29:45.755 --> 02:29:47.485
will be close to 300 square feet.
3139
02:29:48.555 --> 02:29:51.045
It's not gonna be all that that different
3140
02:29:52.075 --> 02:29:53.165
from one building to another.
3141
02:29:53.515 --> 02:29:56.445
It's just everything will be covered over time
3142
02:29:57.835 --> 02:29:59.485
because some of the programs didn't
3143
02:29:59.485 --> 02:30:00.645
exist when the building was built.
3144
02:30:01.475 --> 02:30:03.685
Then you start fitting them into spaces
3145
02:30:04.795 --> 02:30:06.205
that weren't designed for the program
3146
02:30:06.235 --> 02:30:07.325
that, that you're delivering.
3147
02:30:07.325 --> 02:30:09.445
And that, that, that's where the real inequity happens.
3148
02:30:09.665 --> 02:30:13.365
So if we, if the program captures everything
3149
02:30:13.365 --> 02:30:15.965
that it's supposed to and we only build this
3150
02:30:15.985 --> 02:30:18.405
and we build the, the building to meet the program,
3151
02:30:18.915 --> 02:30:20.965
then everything should be fairly equitable.
3152
02:30:21.785 --> 02:30:24.005
And if we have inequities at another building,
3153
02:30:25.025 --> 02:30:27.605
that's a chance for us to kind
3154
02:30:27.605 --> 02:30:30.885
of right size a little bit over time.
3155
02:30:31.035 --> 02:30:33.605
It's not gonna be an instantaneous change.
3156
02:30:36.175 --> 02:30:39.925
Thank you.
Do you have anything Dr. Welch or
3157
02:30:39.925 --> 02:30:40.925
No, you're good.
3158
02:30:42.045 --> 02:30:44.365
I just have one question
3159
02:30:44.425 --> 02:30:48.045
and I, I don't know if now is the right time,
3160
02:30:48.105 --> 02:30:53.005
but it has to do with section 11 extended care
3161
02:30:53.145 --> 02:30:56.645
and community use and specifically extended school care.
3162
02:30:56.645 --> 02:30:59.205
There's a table here detailing students
3163
02:30:59.225 --> 02:31:01.365
who participate in early risers asap
3164
02:31:01.385 --> 02:31:03.005
and then students on the wait list.
3165
02:31:03.605 --> 02:31:08.045
Obviously the school will be built for more students.
3166
02:31:09.215 --> 02:31:10.765
Could the community then assume
3167
02:31:10.835 --> 02:31:13.005
that there would be additional capacity in
3168
02:31:13.005 --> 02:31:15.565
that afterschool program setting aside for second?
3169
02:31:15.685 --> 02:31:17.285
I understand that has to be staffed
3170
02:31:17.285 --> 02:31:19.285
and that is a separate challenge,
3171
02:31:20.225 --> 02:31:22.445
but could the community then fairly assume
3172
02:31:22.445 --> 02:31:24.885
that there would be additional space, at least for
3173
02:31:24.885 --> 02:31:26.045
that program in the new building?
3174
02:31:28.745 --> 02:31:32.205
The plan as we put it together in terms of cafeteria
3175
02:31:32.305 --> 02:31:35.525
to host the two lunches would allow for a space
3176
02:31:35.635 --> 02:31:40.285
that would house 200, 225 students at a time,
3177
02:31:40.775 --> 02:31:42.765
which would increase capacity
3178
02:31:42.905 --> 02:31:47.285
for the afterschool activity program to expand.
3179
02:31:48.195 --> 02:31:50.005
Yeah. Thank you. I yield back.
3180
02:31:51.185 --> 02:31:52.365
Mr. Bruno, did you have another,
3181
02:31:52.845 --> 02:31:54.485
I did have a question about ASAP as well
3182
02:31:54.545 --> 02:31:56.325
and I thi I think that was a great question
3183
02:31:56.325 --> 02:31:57.445
about the wait list.
3184
02:31:58.465 --> 02:32:02.805
Are we building specific space for asap?
3185
02:32:03.985 --> 02:32:07.565
So that's considered as in office space for them
3186
02:32:07.665 --> 02:32:12.245
to have a home base to like set up like, you know, the staff
3187
02:32:12.905 --> 02:32:15.765
for ASAP aren't always in the building
3188
02:32:15.945 --> 02:32:18.925
and they need some place to come and queue up and show up
3189
02:32:19.625 --> 02:32:22.125
before the program starts and where the program ends.
3190
02:32:22.385 --> 02:32:25.445
And so they need a place to work at at least a little bit.
3191
02:32:25.825 --> 02:32:28.005
And so a little office space for them
3192
02:32:28.615 --> 02:32:31.565
since the program is likely to exist, whether it's our staff
3193
02:32:31.585 --> 02:32:34.885
or even if it was a vendor, so that they're not coming in
3194
02:32:35.465 --> 02:32:38.605
and sort of waiting for the bell to end
3195
02:32:38.605 --> 02:32:41.285
and then going right into a space to, to do it.
3196
02:32:41.345 --> 02:32:42.845
Now cafeteria is an option,
3197
02:32:42.845 --> 02:32:45.845
but that's not really a great office space if you're making
3198
02:32:46.095 --> 02:32:47.565
phone calls, things of that nature.
3199
02:32:47.665 --> 02:32:49.245
So adding an office
3200
02:32:50.585 --> 02:32:53.405
and a little space for some storage is, is helpful
3201
02:32:53.545 --> 02:32:56.005
for a program that you plan to have there kind
3202
02:32:56.005 --> 02:32:57.285
of everyday schools in session
3203
02:32:57.585 --> 02:33:00.605
or even even over the vacation periods of times.
3204
02:33:00.985 --> 02:33:03.805
So it's not something that's, that's
3205
02:33:04.435 --> 02:33:05.645
that every school considers,
3206
02:33:05.665 --> 02:33:09.725
but we, we run the program so it seems like a good match not
3207
02:33:09.725 --> 02:33:11.285
to, not to miss them.
3208
02:33:11.355 --> 02:33:14.005
This is gonna be one of the questions
3209
02:33:14.005 --> 02:33:17.165
that I've always gotten from architects when they ask about
3210
02:33:17.185 --> 02:33:19.045
who uses the building, when do they use it.
3211
02:33:19.465 --> 02:33:22.165
We kind of wind up going through a history of rental
3212
02:33:22.265 --> 02:33:26.285
of space and, and who wants to use the gym and the calf
3213
02:33:26.625 --> 02:33:28.365
and are there any, are there any outside groups
3214
02:33:28.525 --> 02:33:30.605
that rent classrooms, things of that nature.
3215
02:33:31.145 --> 02:33:34.885
So they, they factor that in to kind of like a safe design,
3216
02:33:35.035 --> 02:33:36.565
like was talked about a little bit earlier
3217
02:33:37.065 --> 02:33:38.445
or practical design so
3218
02:33:38.445 --> 02:33:40.605
that people aren't going through the whole building.
3219
02:33:40.885 --> 02:33:45.285
I mean it's, it's fairly common design nowadays to have
3220
02:33:46.305 --> 02:33:48.765
the gym, the cafeteria and music
3221
02:33:48.945 --> 02:33:52.245
and art potentially away from your regular classrooms.
3222
02:33:52.445 --> 02:33:54.365
'cause those are the spaces that get rented
3223
02:33:54.905 --> 02:33:57.445
and accessed more often for performances
3224
02:33:57.445 --> 02:33:58.765
and shows and things of that nature.
3225
02:33:59.645 --> 02:34:02.005
So it's, it's,
3226
02:34:02.125 --> 02:34:05.365
it's a question we anticipate getting in one we already
3227
02:34:05.365 --> 02:34:06.485
sort of have an answer for.
3228
02:34:06.875 --> 02:34:10.445
Okay, thank you.
So I have
3229
02:34:11.345 --> 02:34:13.765
one question, but it's not for you
3230
02:34:14.025 --> 02:34:15.245
or for you or for anybody.
3231
02:34:15.435 --> 02:34:16.525
It's for Mr. Wood.
3232
02:34:17.465 --> 02:34:19.885
And I'm sorry, I mean I do love putting you on the spot.
3233
02:34:20.445 --> 02:34:21.565
I don't get to do it very often.
3234
02:34:22.025 --> 02:34:24.125
Oh, we know here's, I'm curious and,
3235
02:34:24.225 --> 02:34:25.525
and it's okay if you wanna pun,
3236
02:34:26.505 --> 02:34:30.205
but you're not only, you know, here in the capacity
3237
02:34:30.205 --> 02:34:31.165
that you're here, but you're also a teacher
3238
02:34:31.305 --> 02:34:32.245
in current Memorial.
3239
02:34:32.245 --> 02:34:36.605
So I would actually be curious to what your feedback
3240
02:34:36.665 --> 02:34:39.765
or input is on this plan as somebody
3241
02:34:39.765 --> 02:34:41.285
who teaches in the current building.
3242
02:34:42.615 --> 02:34:43.845
Thank you Mr.
Chair.
3243
02:34:43.865 --> 02:34:45.725
If you would like, and if you don't wanna answer now,
3244
02:34:45.725 --> 02:34:46.885
that's okay too, if you wanna
3245
02:34:47.465 --> 02:34:52.205
No, I, I mean I was, well I was pleased to be part
3246
02:34:52.205 --> 02:34:54.765
of the discussion when Principal Alani brought it
3247
02:34:54.765 --> 02:34:58.245
to the full staff and asked us to give a little bit
3248
02:34:58.245 --> 02:35:00.885
of our own kind of wishes and desires
3249
02:35:00.945 --> 02:35:04.205
and some of the, some of the practical problems
3250
02:35:04.205 --> 02:35:05.805
that we would hope to solve with the new building.
3251
02:35:06.985 --> 02:35:10.045
And she took all of that feedback and brought it forward.
3252
02:35:10.165 --> 02:35:12.325
I was listening carefully to hear
3253
02:35:12.345 --> 02:35:13.725
of all the things were included.
3254
02:35:14.105 --> 02:35:15.365
I'm still not getting the helipad
3255
02:35:15.365 --> 02:35:17.765
and the stables that I wanted, but I, I'm okay with that.
3256
02:35:18.905 --> 02:35:20.925
But no, I think that the,
3257
02:35:23.785 --> 02:35:27.285
oh, I'm very curious to see how the design, how
3258
02:35:27.305 --> 02:35:32.045
how architects actually process all of the, the needs
3259
02:35:32.105 --> 02:35:33.245
and the wants that we have.
3260
02:35:33.245 --> 02:35:37.045
Because I am concerned at a certain point that there are,
3261
02:35:37.185 --> 02:35:41.525
are going to be contradictions in terms of accessibility
3262
02:35:41.705 --> 02:35:44.885
and availability and condensing spaces so
3263
02:35:44.885 --> 02:35:46.965
that people are close, but also separating them so
3264
02:35:46.965 --> 02:35:47.965
that they have their own spaces.
3265
02:35:48.845 --> 02:35:50.965
So I'm, I'm just curious to see how it all plays out.
3266
02:35:51.305 --> 02:35:53.405
But, but no, I'm actually quite excited about it.
3267
02:35:53.485 --> 02:35:55.045
I mean, you have to remember, I came from Johnson,
3268
02:35:55.265 --> 02:35:57.405
so moving into a 55-year-old building,
3269
02:35:57.435 --> 02:35:58.885
it's the newest place I've ever worked in.
3270
02:36:00.585 --> 02:36:03.285
So I, I'm, I'm very curious to see, see
3271
02:36:03.625 --> 02:36:04.765
as the process continues.
3272
02:36:04.945 --> 02:36:07.805
But thank you. I I assure you I will weigh in when,
3273
02:36:07.995 --> 02:36:09.125
when I feel it's appropriate.
3274
02:36:09.665 --> 02:36:11.045
I'm glad to hear it. And I'm sorry
3275
02:36:11.045 --> 02:36:12.325
that the helipad is out,
3276
02:36:12.345 --> 02:36:15.165
but the monorail I heard is still under consideration, know?
3277
02:36:15.165 --> 02:36:19.485
Yes. Alright, without any other comments
3278
02:36:20.075 --> 02:36:23.325
from the committee, we will move on.
3279
02:36:24.375 --> 02:36:26.045
Thank you. Thank you.
3280
02:36:26.045 --> 02:36:26.925
Your school Lamar
3281
02:36:29.735 --> 02:36:31.545
Yeah, pleasure of the committee.
3282
02:36:31.985 --> 02:36:36.385
I would be not opposed to
3283
02:36:37.095 --> 02:36:39.625
putting the school committee goals on the next meeting.
3284
02:36:39.825 --> 02:36:41.665
I am, I am nervous
3285
02:36:41.775 --> 02:36:45.025
that this might be a more robust conversation than,
3286
02:36:45.615 --> 02:36:50.305
than the three or four minutes that I was hoping given the,
3287
02:36:50.305 --> 02:36:52.425
given the lateness of the evening.
3288
02:36:53.215 --> 02:36:56.625
Does anybody mind if we push that one? Seeing none.
3289
02:36:56.735 --> 02:37:00.265
Okay, great. So Ms. Pernell, do you have a, just
3290
02:37:00.265 --> 02:37:03.225
Quick on the memorial, you know, I think it is,
3291
02:37:03.765 --> 02:37:06.825
we are hoping to get feedback from parents and people.
3292
02:37:07.005 --> 02:37:08.865
So one, I wanted to confirm that
3293
02:37:08.865 --> 02:37:13.545
that information is gonna go out to parents at the, at the
3294
02:37:14.435 --> 02:37:16.325
elementary school curriculum night.
3295
02:37:17.385 --> 02:37:21.405
We have a slide in the slide deck. Amazing. Okay.
3296
02:37:23.065 --> 02:37:26.245
And then just to really encourage parents, you know,
3297
02:37:26.345 --> 02:37:29.485
if we are, if we're liaisons to spark or CPAC
3298
02:37:29.505 --> 02:37:32.165
or I gave it to the PCC
3299
02:37:32.225 --> 02:37:34.605
and already got feedback from members of the PCC.
3300
02:37:34.705 --> 02:37:38.405
So wherever we can circulate this information,
3301
02:37:38.525 --> 02:37:39.525
I think it's really important.
3302
02:37:41.505 --> 02:37:42.925
Please.
Yeah, I,
3303
02:37:43.115 --> 02:37:44.725
I've been thinking this about this too,
3304
02:37:46.025 --> 02:37:47.245
and I think it's really important
3305
02:37:47.245 --> 02:37:49.765
that we can say we did some expansive outreach,
3306
02:37:50.025 --> 02:37:52.565
but also with Aite, people are very, very busy.
3307
02:37:53.185 --> 02:37:55.645
So I'm wondering if the committee might consider a way
3308
02:37:55.745 --> 02:37:57.445
to kind of solicit feedback ahead
3309
02:37:57.445 --> 02:37:59.445
of time in a different form than being there in person.
3310
02:38:00.605 --> 02:38:02.205
Could be a Google form that's up on,
3311
02:38:02.345 --> 02:38:04.645
on social media or whatever, or email.
3312
02:38:04.785 --> 02:38:06.405
But there might be other ways to kind
3313
02:38:06.405 --> 02:38:09.005
of at least receive some points of view.
3314
02:38:11.435 --> 02:38:15.325
When we spoke to the PCC last week, we let them know that
3315
02:38:15.325 --> 02:38:18.125
for all meetings, including the meeting on the 26th,
3316
02:38:18.335 --> 02:38:20.045
we'll be talking about the memorial plan.
3317
02:38:20.305 --> 02:38:21.925
People of course, can always come
3318
02:38:21.925 --> 02:38:23.645
and participate in person at public speak.
3319
02:38:24.075 --> 02:38:26.405
They can stay at home and participate virtually.
3320
02:38:26.675 --> 02:38:30.325
They can also email school committee at Natick PS at any
3321
02:38:30.325 --> 02:38:32.725
time and that will go to all members of the committee.
3322
02:38:33.105 --> 02:38:36.805
So there are at least three ways that people can have input.
3323
02:38:37.005 --> 02:38:40.045
I, as a member, I'm, I'm open to supporting other ways
3324
02:38:40.045 --> 02:38:41.805
that we might also solicit input,
3325
02:38:41.905 --> 02:38:44.245
but those are three different ways that people can,
3326
02:38:45.265 --> 02:38:47.285
you know, participate synchronously,
3327
02:38:47.285 --> 02:38:50.205
asynchronously here in the room and at home.
3328
02:38:52.105 --> 02:38:55.485
Ms. Corset,
So that just brought up a question for me.
3329
02:38:56.675 --> 02:38:57.885
What you had mentioned earlier
3330
02:38:57.915 --> 02:39:00.845
that there would be some iteration to this education plan
3331
02:39:01.065 --> 02:39:03.085
as the architects get involved too, right?
3332
02:39:03.905 --> 02:39:04.925
Is that right? Or is
3333
02:39:05.645 --> 02:39:07.645
I anticipate that we might re
3334
02:39:08.645 --> 02:39:10.925
I anticipate we might receive some feedback based
3335
02:39:10.925 --> 02:39:12.045
on my conversation with Mr.
3336
02:39:12.235 --> 02:39:15.685
Myer on late Thursday night that came the architects to him,
3337
02:39:15.995 --> 02:39:17.925
that they're gonna have some feedback on some things
3338
02:39:17.925 --> 02:39:19.125
that we might wanna beef up
3339
02:39:19.145 --> 02:39:21.845
or add based on what the MSBA might expect.
3340
02:39:22.045 --> 02:39:23.805
I have no idea what those are yet. Okay.
3341
02:39:23.985 --> 02:39:25.805
And I said to them, we're happy to hear it.
3342
02:39:26.585 --> 02:39:28.845
You know, we'd love to do that once you're under contract.
3343
02:39:29.835 --> 02:39:31.205
Yeah, no, of course. No,
3344
02:39:31.205 --> 02:39:34.045
and I, I, that's the reason I asked is
3345
02:39:34.045 --> 02:39:37.085
because, you know, we definitely wanna hear public feedback.
3346
02:39:37.105 --> 02:39:38.325
We have this meeting next week,
3347
02:39:38.585 --> 02:39:40.045
but that won't be the last time
3348
02:39:40.665 --> 02:39:44.285
before things are like carved in stone. Right?
3349
02:39:44.315 --> 02:39:46.125
Yeah. I mean, and maybe that's a piece
3350
02:39:46.125 --> 02:39:47.845
of asking the committee to,
3351
02:39:47.905 --> 02:39:50.325
and we would, you know, be happy to hear
3352
02:39:51.275 --> 02:39:52.885
however you would envision this.
3353
02:39:53.545 --> 02:39:55.125
But you know, I think this vote,
3354
02:39:56.485 --> 02:39:57.885
I don't wanna say it's slightly symbolic,
3355
02:39:57.885 --> 02:39:59.605
but it's sort of like saying like, this is a,
3356
02:39:59.635 --> 02:40:00.965
this is, this is the thing.
3357
02:40:00.975 --> 02:40:02.205
We're moving forward.
3358
02:40:02.985 --> 02:40:05.685
It, we should anticipate this is a very long process
3359
02:40:06.315 --> 02:40:09.965
that there will be some plenty of other times to kind
3360
02:40:09.965 --> 02:40:11.805
of weigh in and, and influence
3361
02:40:11.805 --> 02:40:12.925
the way this thing moves forward.
3362
02:40:13.625 --> 02:40:15.525
So we have, we don't even have the
3363
02:40:15.525 --> 02:40:16.725
architect on board yet, yet.
3364
02:40:16.725 --> 02:40:19.645
This is something we need to get done and get into the MSBA.
3365
02:40:19.665 --> 02:40:21.485
So it's just how the timing works.
3366
02:40:22.065 --> 02:40:23.725
So I can tell you there'll be a little bit
3367
02:40:23.725 --> 02:40:25.325
of iteration once we can actually start talking
3368
02:40:25.325 --> 02:40:26.445
to the architect in this way
3369
02:40:26.705 --> 02:40:27.925
and we'll be transparent about it.
3370
02:40:28.685 --> 02:40:31.645
I think we're gonna try to not make that be a dissertation,
3371
02:40:31.985 --> 02:40:35.045
but, because I do think the team did a fabulous job
3372
02:40:35.045 --> 02:40:37.365
and I wanna compliment them, but there will be something
3373
02:40:37.365 --> 02:40:39.125
and we'll try to get it to e even
3374
02:40:39.305 --> 02:40:40.725
as early as we possibly can.
3375
02:40:41.035 --> 02:40:44.205
Yeah. Okay. And then not to, I, I think just to,
3376
02:40:44.205 --> 02:40:45.485
maybe this is to the chair.
3377
02:40:46.185 --> 02:40:50.605
I'm wondering if we want, might want to, to figure out when
3378
02:40:50.635 --> 02:40:54.965
that last meaningful contribution moment is for the public
3379
02:40:55.705 --> 02:40:57.205
and really communicate that.
3380
02:40:57.505 --> 02:41:01.885
And I'm thinking of, of Ken, of, of the Kennedy project
3381
02:41:02.185 --> 02:41:04.565
and when the roadshow started, kind of when the,
3382
02:41:04.585 --> 02:41:06.845
the building design had started, there was,
3383
02:41:07.115 --> 02:41:09.885
this is just an example, I love planetariums,
3384
02:41:10.105 --> 02:41:12.405
but there was so much discussion about the planetarium
3385
02:41:12.405 --> 02:41:14.325
and whether or not we should have one.
3386
02:41:14.945 --> 02:41:16.445
And it really wasn't clear
3387
02:41:16.505 --> 02:41:19.165
and it is isn't even clear to me now whether
3388
02:41:19.165 --> 02:41:20.525
or not that could have been changed.
3389
02:41:20.675 --> 02:41:23.205
Like how far along was the design process so
3390
02:41:23.205 --> 02:41:24.325
that if there was a decision
3391
02:41:24.325 --> 02:41:26.045
that we actually did not want a planetarium,
3392
02:41:26.615 --> 02:41:27.965
could it have been taken out?
3393
02:41:28.345 --> 02:41:30.205
And so I'm just wondering if that's something
3394
02:41:30.205 --> 02:41:33.685
that the committee might want to really, really understand
3395
02:41:34.105 --> 02:41:35.765
so that we can help the public understand
3396
02:41:36.715 --> 02:41:38.045
It's a good, it's a good question.
3397
02:41:38.045 --> 02:41:40.925
Something that we can fi we can figure out. Ms.
3398
02:41:41.085 --> 02:41:42.965
Combes, I I saw your hand go up briefly.
3399
02:41:43.225 --> 02:41:44.225
Did you have a question?
3400
02:41:48.925 --> 02:41:50.125
I just wanna be mindful of time.
3401
02:41:50.325 --> 02:41:51.845
I I, I didn't really have a question.
3402
02:41:51.965 --> 02:41:55.365
I, it was more of just a, a thought that crossed my mind
3403
02:41:56.415 --> 02:42:01.165
given the conversations that were being had about, you know,
3404
02:42:01.305 --> 02:42:02.725
the ML families
3405
02:42:03.985 --> 02:42:05.805
and some of the other families that were,
3406
02:42:07.115 --> 02:42:08.925
that are being served by Memorial.
3407
02:42:10.105 --> 02:42:12.565
I'm just, you know, not just in Natick,
3408
02:42:12.565 --> 02:42:16.445
but I think in general, like when we're speaking about
3409
02:42:18.285 --> 02:42:22.525
communication and in 2026, a lot of it is happening
3410
02:42:22.525 --> 02:42:23.525
through technology
3411
02:42:23.945 --> 02:42:28.125
and having access to the internet,
3412
02:42:28.705 --> 02:42:29.965
having access to emails.
3413
02:42:30.145 --> 02:42:31.685
I'm part of the Benham school council
3414
02:42:31.745 --> 02:42:34.285
and I know one time we had a conversation about, you know,
3415
02:42:34.285 --> 02:42:37.845
trying to get more input from families, maybe families
3416
02:42:37.845 --> 02:42:39.405
where English is not their first language.
3417
02:42:39.465 --> 02:42:43.925
And I brought up a, a comment once of like,
3418
02:42:44.125 --> 02:42:46.645
I know I live off my email, but like, and some,
3419
02:42:46.745 --> 02:42:50.205
and I know I live by certain structures like my email,
3420
02:42:50.325 --> 02:42:52.925
I check it regularly and a lot of us do as well.
3421
02:42:53.585 --> 02:42:57.125
But for those families who may not utilize those kind of
3422
02:42:59.405 --> 02:43:02.765
platforms that we kind of do so regularly,
3423
02:43:03.315 --> 02:43:05.405
it's just something to consider of like how,
3424
02:43:05.985 --> 02:43:07.565
and I honestly don't even know the answer.
3425
02:43:07.595 --> 02:43:12.085
It's, it's a genuine just wonder of like, just being mindful
3426
02:43:12.185 --> 02:43:14.285
of how we can be creative
3427
02:43:14.385 --> 02:43:16.725
and making sure that the populations
3428
02:43:16.725 --> 02:43:20.005
that are most vulnerable, you know, have access to the,
3429
02:43:21.275 --> 02:43:24.405
have access to the information that we are
3430
02:43:24.405 --> 02:43:25.765
so desperately trying to give them.
3431
02:43:26.665 --> 02:43:30.165
So again, it's more of just a comment slash thought thinking
3432
02:43:30.165 --> 02:43:32.365
out loud of like, it's a huge barrier.
3433
02:43:32.605 --> 02:43:34.845
I think sometimes, and again,
3434
02:43:34.885 --> 02:43:36.845
I don't necessarily have any answers for it,
3435
02:43:36.945 --> 02:43:40.365
but just thinking of like creative ways of
3436
02:43:40.365 --> 02:43:42.525
how we can share the information in a way
3437
02:43:42.525 --> 02:43:43.805
that's access accessible
3438
02:43:43.805 --> 02:43:47.085
and equitable for, for all. Thank you.
3439
02:43:47.565 --> 02:43:49.365
I think that's a, it's a fair question
3440
02:43:49.545 --> 02:43:52.965
and spoiler alert, I suspect maybe that might come up
3441
02:43:52.965 --> 02:43:55.685
during the school committee goals discussion that we have.
3442
02:43:55.755 --> 02:43:58.205
What if we, if we end up with a community engagement
3443
02:43:59.555 --> 02:44:02.005
goal again, it could certainly be part of that
3444
02:44:02.465 --> 02:44:04.805
and we're gonna, like,
3445
02:44:04.805 --> 02:44:06.565
anytime we've done a a project like this,
3446
02:44:06.565 --> 02:44:09.205
there's gonna be a lot of effort over a long period of time
3447
02:44:09.205 --> 02:44:11.805
to get as many voices into the conversation
3448
02:44:11.825 --> 02:44:14.325
as possible. Mr. Brunell,
3449
02:44:15.085 --> 02:44:17.605
I actually think, and I'm sorry for saying this,
3450
02:44:17.665 --> 02:44:20.445
but I think we need to do the communication goal tonight
3451
02:44:20.445 --> 02:44:24.845
because we have a deadline by the November 2nd.
3452
02:44:25.365 --> 02:44:28.965
I, I like Ms. Gorses idea of doing a,
3453
02:44:29.075 --> 02:44:31.725
like an executive functioning like walk back of
3454
02:44:31.955 --> 02:44:34.925
what are the, like when is, when will the school be built?
3455
02:44:35.435 --> 02:44:36.725
When does this decision happen?
3456
02:44:36.755 --> 02:44:37.925
When does this decision happen?
3457
02:44:37.995 --> 02:44:40.325
Like I, I'm curious about even like when the vote
3458
02:44:40.325 --> 02:44:41.325
for town meeting happens.
3459
02:44:41.535 --> 02:44:42.685
Don't need to know that right now.
3460
02:44:43.705 --> 02:44:46.805
But I do think that just
3461
02:44:46.805 --> 02:44:49.445
because November 2nd is on our calendar,
3462
02:44:50.795 --> 02:44:51.845
it's would be hard
3463
02:44:51.845 --> 02:44:54.485
to leave this meeting without a communication plan, at least
3464
02:44:54.545 --> 02:44:56.445
for this ED plan.
3465
02:45:01.285 --> 02:45:03.845
I just wanna mention that part of the dates
3466
02:45:04.235 --> 02:45:05.445
that we offered are,
3467
02:45:05.445 --> 02:45:07.445
because we made a commitment to the school committee
3468
02:45:07.745 --> 02:45:08.965
to get this to you by then,
3469
02:45:09.585 --> 02:45:10.685
you could always, oh, let's change that.
3470
02:45:10.685 --> 02:45:13.645
Extend that. I think it's fair that you could extend that.
3471
02:45:15.435 --> 02:45:17.125
Okay. I mean, what maybe
3472
02:45:17.125 --> 02:45:18.965
after Thanksgiving then give us time.
3473
02:45:19.385 --> 02:45:21.045
We confirm when it's due to the MSBA.
3474
02:45:21.995 --> 02:45:23.245
Yeah, absolutely.
3475
02:45:23.445 --> 02:45:25.965
'cause it's after we've got the architect hired
3476
02:45:26.265 --> 02:45:30.805
and we have a schedule and a draft schedule at that point
3477
02:45:30.805 --> 02:45:33.405
because it's what we're gonna work off of
3478
02:45:33.625 --> 02:45:34.685
and, and try to meet.
3479
02:45:34.685 --> 02:45:37.165
But, you know, sometimes the, the nature
3480
02:45:37.165 --> 02:45:38.925
of the process things can go faster
3481
02:45:39.025 --> 02:45:41.605
or slower than the schedule As you're figuring things out.
3482
02:45:42.465 --> 02:45:44.205
We, we can come back to you with an answer on that.
3483
02:45:44.305 --> 02:45:49.165
But we did want to get, you know, the basic information
3484
02:45:49.165 --> 02:45:51.885
or the bulk of the information to the committee
3485
02:45:53.505 --> 02:45:55.365
and that's, that's why we were trying to meet the schedule.
3486
02:45:55.365 --> 02:45:59.005
But it doesn't, it doesn't have to be voted on November 2nd.
3487
02:45:59.005 --> 02:46:00.005
Well that changes everything.
3488
02:46:00.245 --> 02:46:02.005
I mean, when we presented to you in the spring,
3489
02:46:02.105 --> 02:46:03.885
we are the ones who said we'd get it to you in the fall
3490
02:46:04.245 --> 02:46:05.645
and that's what we backwards planned from.
3491
02:46:05.675 --> 02:46:07.805
Yeah. But that's not to say you couldn't give us some
3492
02:46:08.045 --> 02:46:09.965
latitude to go a little longer if you wanted us to.
3493
02:46:10.735 --> 02:46:12.165
We'll take the time if you want it
3494
02:46:12.745 --> 02:46:14.685
To, to the other questions about when,
3495
02:46:14.685 --> 02:46:17.645
when does it get too late to, to make changes?
3496
02:46:17.755 --> 02:46:21.005
Yeah. The feasibility study is really the best time
3497
02:46:21.065 --> 02:46:24.605
to figure out what's gonna be in the, in the, the preferred
3498
02:46:25.825 --> 02:46:27.445
option that gets voted
3499
02:46:27.465 --> 02:46:31.245
and has a, has a draft budget, then the architect starts
3500
02:46:32.155 --> 02:46:36.845
designing around what's basically a pencil sketch in a list
3501
02:46:36.845 --> 02:46:38.885
of rooms or a bunch of squares
3502
02:46:38.885 --> 02:46:41.645
and circles is they might, I've seen them actually show it
3503
02:46:41.645 --> 02:46:43.965
that way so they don't, people have an idea
3504
02:46:43.965 --> 02:46:45.245
that it's really conceptual
3505
02:46:45.385 --> 02:46:47.365
and that it hasn't been designed yet
3506
02:46:47.365 --> 02:46:49.365
because they still are taking input from,
3507
02:46:50.035 --> 02:46:51.525
from the owner and the community.
3508
02:46:53.955 --> 02:46:55.845
Once you get to that point and you, and,
3509
02:46:55.845 --> 02:46:57.725
and that's done the schematic design and,
3510
02:46:57.725 --> 02:46:59.925
and you have a floor plan and you have renderings
3511
02:47:00.265 --> 02:47:02.365
and you have a dollar amount that you bring to the voters,
3512
02:47:03.475 --> 02:47:05.805
generally then it, it costs money
3513
02:47:05.945 --> 02:47:08.285
to start cutting things out of the building.
3514
02:47:08.725 --> 02:47:12.645
'cause then they have to redesign it for that type of thing.
3515
02:47:12.745 --> 02:47:15.005
So, you know, it's usually pretty,
3516
02:47:15.025 --> 02:47:17.925
pretty early on when we get there.
3517
02:47:17.985 --> 02:47:19.005
But I,
3518
02:47:19.245 --> 02:47:22.805
I don't envision there being special programs at the
3519
02:47:23.085 --> 02:47:27.085
Memorial Elementary that we don't offer at at other places
3520
02:47:27.865 --> 02:47:29.445
or if we don't offer it, it's not
3521
02:47:29.445 --> 02:47:30.685
because we don't need it, it's
3522
02:47:30.685 --> 02:47:32.125
because it, it doesn't fit there.
3523
02:47:33.325 --> 02:47:35.005
I I could be wrong, but
3524
02:47:36.305 --> 02:47:38.885
unless somebody asks for something that we're not doing,
3525
02:47:41.265 --> 02:47:43.845
so perhaps I'm not seeing a drastic change.
3526
02:47:44.075 --> 02:47:48.805
Perhaps it makes sense if we can to, if we don't have
3527
02:47:48.805 --> 02:47:52.245
to vote on November 2nd, that as perhaps if we have time
3528
02:47:52.865 --> 02:47:55.885
as part of next week's meeting, if we could back into the,
3529
02:47:56.305 --> 02:47:59.845
if we had a better sense of what the full schedule might be,
3530
02:48:00.625 --> 02:48:04.165
we could also craft like a Google form
3531
02:48:04.835 --> 02:48:09.405
that we could make available starting next week's meeting.
3532
02:48:09.425 --> 02:48:12.885
So anybody who can't attend, we can give this fourth option
3533
02:48:13.605 --> 02:48:17.765
in addition to the options that Dr. Welch mentioned so
3534
02:48:17.765 --> 02:48:19.525
that we can collect information,
3535
02:48:19.575 --> 02:48:21.205
maybe we can share next week.
3536
02:48:22.425 --> 02:48:26.125
The sort of set in stone locked in date would be roughly
3537
02:48:27.245 --> 02:48:28.405
whenever that is.
3538
02:48:28.775 --> 02:48:30.525
We're gonna have these meetings before then,
3539
02:48:30.625 --> 02:48:34.125
or the the, we're gonna vote whenever we have to vote.
3540
02:48:34.895 --> 02:48:37.085
We're gonna collect information up until that point.
3541
02:48:38.225 --> 02:48:40.365
And I think we've done a good job
3542
02:48:40.365 --> 02:48:41.845
of being transparent about this process.
3543
02:48:42.025 --> 02:48:45.925
We should continue that. But if we have more than Nove
3544
02:48:45.925 --> 02:48:47.925
or later than November 2nd, we should use
3545
02:48:47.925 --> 02:48:48.965
that as much as we can.
3546
02:48:50.465 --> 02:48:53.965
Do you, do we think it's possible to have a sort of,
3547
02:48:54.035 --> 02:48:56.925
when is the set in stone date?
3548
02:48:58.525 --> 02:49:00.535
Yeah,
I, I just don't wanna jump ahead
3549
02:49:00.535 --> 02:49:01.535
of the the architect.
3550
02:49:01.535 --> 02:49:03.735
Yeah. They're the ones that give us the schedule that, that,
3551
02:49:03.765 --> 02:49:04.775
that we'll agree to.
3552
02:49:05.795 --> 02:49:07.445
And then we're gonna try to work with that.
3553
02:49:07.545 --> 02:49:09.845
So if we can't get you that
3554
02:49:09.945 --> 02:49:11.485
for the next school committee meeting,
3555
02:49:11.495 --> 02:49:12.885
it'll certainly be one after
3556
02:49:12.885 --> 02:49:13.885
That's okay.
3557
02:49:13.885 --> 02:49:14.925
But I think I'm, I guess what I'm looking
3558
02:49:14.925 --> 02:49:17.885
for is like roughly if we said at the sb after Thanksgiving
3559
02:49:18.025 --> 02:49:19.165
before, like before
3560
02:49:19.505 --> 02:49:20.605
We should be able to get you that before.
3561
02:49:20.605 --> 02:49:21.605
Yeah. So you know, like, so, so
3562
02:49:21.605 --> 02:49:23.765
that we can go into the meeting next week
3563
02:49:24.545 --> 02:49:27.165
and say you have a chance now,
3564
02:49:27.385 --> 02:49:29.885
but there'll be further opportunities for the next month
3565
02:49:30.265 --> 02:49:33.965
for you to send things and then that's it roughly
3566
02:49:34.545 --> 02:49:36.925
we can be honest about, we don't actually know what the,
3567
02:49:36.925 --> 02:49:38.445
where the goal line is just yet.
3568
02:49:39.835 --> 02:49:42.285
Well, we, we don't know where all the yard markers are.
3569
02:49:42.295 --> 02:49:43.525
Right? We know where the goal line is.
3570
02:49:43.915 --> 02:49:46.645
Well, we hope yess. It's a madism right there. That's it.
3571
02:49:47.185 --> 02:49:50.325
All right. Shall we continue? Great.
3572
02:49:51.835 --> 02:49:53.525
Matt, that's you? I think
3573
02:49:54.265 --> 02:49:55.265
That's me.
3574
02:49:55.265 --> 02:49:57.125
Alright. Just can put the,
3575
02:49:58.865 --> 02:50:01.325
the invoice review and approval process up on the screen.
3576
02:50:07.305 --> 02:50:11.405
It is one slide everybody. What? No, don't apologize.
3577
02:50:11.545 --> 02:50:14.285
You've been doing great. See relative
3578
02:50:14.285 --> 02:50:15.845
to the other decks, this one is,
3579
02:50:16.225 --> 02:50:18.285
Can you hold the school count school council?
3580
02:50:21.155 --> 02:50:25.005
Yeah, I think we should like it's, there we
3581
02:50:25.005 --> 02:50:26.005
Go.
3582
02:50:26.005 --> 02:50:29.765
It's,
So with a school construction project,
3583
02:50:30.305 --> 02:50:33.525
paying the bills is a little bit different than paying the
3584
02:50:33.525 --> 02:50:35.445
other bills because we have a school building committee.
3585
02:50:36.065 --> 02:50:37.405
And so in short,
3586
02:50:38.625 --> 02:50:41.405
the owner's project manager collects the bills from the
3587
02:50:41.405 --> 02:50:43.325
architect and the contractor
3588
02:50:44.025 --> 02:50:47.885
and any other sub consultants that aren't, aren't hired
3589
02:50:48.885 --> 02:50:52.245
directly from the GC or from from the architect.
3590
02:50:52.625 --> 02:50:55.365
And they need to get it to the school department
3591
02:50:55.465 --> 02:50:56.645
and no less than seven days
3592
02:50:56.645 --> 02:50:57.885
before the building committee meeting.
3593
02:50:58.185 --> 02:50:59.885
So we can take a look at it.
3594
02:50:59.885 --> 02:51:01.565
They usually have what they call a pen
3595
02:51:01.585 --> 02:51:02.965
pencil requisition meeting.
3596
02:51:02.965 --> 02:51:04.045
And we go over those things
3597
02:51:04.825 --> 02:51:06.365
and then we're gonna get it to the chair,
3598
02:51:06.625 --> 02:51:08.245
the school building committee chair to review,
3599
02:51:08.305 --> 02:51:12.125
see if he has any questions as a screen and some clarity
3600
02:51:12.185 --> 02:51:13.645
before it goes before the committee.
3601
02:51:13.715 --> 02:51:16.445
Then the committee gets to review those bills
3602
02:51:16.625 --> 02:51:19.045
and seize the presentation and gets reports in the meeting.
3603
02:51:19.435 --> 02:51:20.725
Then they would generally vote
3604
02:51:20.945 --> 02:51:22.725
to approve paying those bills.
3605
02:51:23.545 --> 02:51:26.925
And then that would go to the school committee
3606
02:51:27.095 --> 02:51:29.285
after it's been reviewed by all of those parties
3607
02:51:29.465 --> 02:51:31.085
to also approve and sign the warrant.
3608
02:51:32.385 --> 02:51:34.725
And then we'd put them on the warrant for payment.
3609
02:51:35.065 --> 02:51:37.525
And so typically if the building committee's gonna meet,
3610
02:51:37.625 --> 02:51:41.845
I'm gonna say on a Thursday or possibly the week
3611
02:51:41.845 --> 02:51:43.325
before a school committee meeting,
3612
02:51:43.325 --> 02:51:45.845
and then school recruiting meets on a Monday, we can turn
3613
02:51:45.845 --> 02:51:47.685
around and pay them within a, within a couple
3614
02:51:47.705 --> 02:51:50.165
of weeks from when they submit the bills.
3615
02:51:50.465 --> 02:51:54.085
So, and that's the process pretty much everywhere
3616
02:51:54.555 --> 02:51:57.805
because the school building committee needs to review
3617
02:51:57.805 --> 02:52:00.645
that first because they have people on the committee
3618
02:52:00.645 --> 02:52:01.885
that generally specialize
3619
02:52:01.905 --> 02:52:05.685
or have some expertise in, in school construction,
3620
02:52:05.685 --> 02:52:08.045
whether they be architects, engineers or contractors.
3621
02:52:08.885 --> 02:52:10.085
You also have Jamin,
3622
02:52:10.165 --> 02:52:12.245
I believe is the representative on there now
3623
02:52:12.345 --> 02:52:15.645
and then other folks from the town
3624
02:52:15.645 --> 02:52:16.845
in the school department as well.
3625
02:52:16.985 --> 02:52:19.765
So that'll be the process. Things will come to you.
3626
02:52:21.535 --> 02:52:22.885
Happy to answer questions,
3627
02:52:23.145 --> 02:52:27.005
but do hope that generally if it's when, by the time it gets
3628
02:52:27.005 --> 02:52:29.605
to you that you feel comfortable supporting it so
3629
02:52:29.605 --> 02:52:33.285
that we're not holding up payment for contractors and,
3630
02:52:33.305 --> 02:52:35.005
and the architects and the designers
3631
02:52:35.005 --> 02:52:38.365
because basically everything's getting signed off at least
3632
02:52:38.365 --> 02:52:39.965
two or three times before you see it.
3633
02:52:40.905 --> 02:52:43.845
The, the one thing that we should consider, depending on
3634
02:52:43.845 --> 02:52:46.565
what the schedule of the school building committee is, is if
3635
02:52:46.565 --> 02:52:49.445
that, if for example, that meeting is on a Thursday Yep.
3636
02:52:49.705 --> 02:52:52.485
And our next full school committee meeting is the following
3637
02:52:52.485 --> 02:52:54.885
Monday, that would be too late to get it on the agenda.
3638
02:52:55.955 --> 02:52:57.725
Okay.
So we would either have
3639
02:52:57.725 --> 02:52:59.165
to preemptively put it on the agenda
3640
02:52:59.625 --> 02:53:02.685
and then not take action, which is also possible.
3641
02:53:02.705 --> 02:53:04.805
We just have to be cognizant of how to plan the agenda
3642
02:53:04.825 --> 02:53:06.125
around those if we can.
3643
02:53:06.595 --> 02:53:09.205
Well, if they're an alternate weeks, that's not a problem.
3644
02:53:09.445 --> 02:53:10.565
'cause we'd be a week and a half ahead. We
3645
02:53:10.565 --> 02:53:11.565
Were planning on keeping this
3646
02:53:11.565 --> 02:53:13.325
as a standing item on the agenda.
3647
02:53:13.595 --> 02:53:15.245
Just so if it's their, it's there. 'cause honestly,
3648
02:53:15.245 --> 02:53:16.325
I don't think this is the school
3649
02:53:16.325 --> 02:53:17.525
committee's thing to have to manage.
3650
02:53:18.105 --> 02:53:20.085
We, we made it really clear they have your dates
3651
02:53:20.435 --> 02:53:21.435
Correct.
3652
02:53:21.435 --> 02:53:23.565
Similar to the subcommittee sort of updates we can have,
3653
02:53:23.565 --> 02:53:25.005
like you said, we can always have it on the agenda.
3654
02:53:25.005 --> 02:53:27.685
That's, that's we're think be mindful of the timing. So
3655
02:53:27.685 --> 02:53:31.365
Typically once a month there'll be bills for you, for you
3656
02:53:31.365 --> 02:53:33.485
to review and approve and yes.
3657
02:53:33.625 --> 02:53:35.045
To the superintendent's point, we,
3658
02:53:35.045 --> 02:53:38.405
we were pretty clear about the owner's project manager,
3659
02:53:38.545 --> 02:53:41.885
the OPM trying to schedule the
3660
02:53:42.505 --> 02:53:43.965
school building committee meetings
3661
02:53:44.345 --> 02:53:45.805
around the school committee meetings
3662
02:53:45.825 --> 02:53:48.005
for a smooth process of approval.
3663
02:53:48.175 --> 02:53:51.245
Great.
One comment and one question.
3664
02:53:52.205 --> 02:53:53.525
I hope the school building committee
3665
02:53:54.165 --> 02:53:57.965
considers having the vice chair also review those
3666
02:53:57.965 --> 02:53:59.765
because I know that there is a desire
3667
02:53:59.825 --> 02:54:03.045
to train somebody up in that process. I think
3668
02:54:03.045 --> 02:54:04.045
That'll happen.
3669
02:54:04.745 --> 02:54:07.565
The vice chair seems to participate in, in quite a bit
3670
02:54:07.565 --> 02:54:10.165
that the, that the chair's working on.
3671
02:54:10.305 --> 02:54:12.245
So, and,
3672
02:54:12.245 --> 02:54:14.805
and I guess special thanks to Maria
3673
02:54:14.985 --> 02:54:16.645
for volunteering, accepting that
3674
02:54:16.715 --> 02:54:17.715
That, okay.
3675
02:54:17.785 --> 02:54:20.445
And she was on the, she was on the call with Matt
3676
02:54:20.505 --> 02:54:22.725
and Steven and I when we created this process.
3677
02:54:22.935 --> 02:54:27.245
Great, great. And then the question is it like,
3678
02:54:27.345 --> 02:54:30.165
our warrant is approved, we don't have to do it the way
3679
02:54:30.165 --> 02:54:33.085
that we do it, but now it's approved only by the chair.
3680
02:54:33.785 --> 02:54:36.405
So are we gonna put this on the agenda
3681
02:54:36.625 --> 02:54:38.485
or would, could we do it the same way the
3682
02:54:38.485 --> 02:54:39.845
warrant happens for,
3683
02:54:40.185 --> 02:54:41.805
You can do it the same way the warrant happens
3684
02:54:42.265 --> 02:54:43.445
now with, for the,
3685
02:54:43.705 --> 02:54:45.805
So Matt Tax, the chair could just approve it
3686
02:54:46.025 --> 02:54:48.685
If you, if you vote to delegate that to him. Sure. Yeah.
3687
02:54:49.565 --> 02:54:52.445
I actually, I mean that, that'd be fine.
3688
02:54:52.905 --> 02:54:57.845
If I also think for something like this, I don't, I,
3689
02:54:58.045 --> 02:55:00.605
I like the idea of the full committee having an opportunity,
3690
02:55:00.995 --> 02:55:02.645
even if it was on the consent agenda.
3691
02:55:03.335 --> 02:55:05.685
Right. But so that somebody had the opportunity if
3692
02:55:05.685 --> 02:55:06.765
they wanted to pull it out.
3693
02:55:06.825 --> 02:55:08.005
Not that I don't trust myself,
3694
02:55:08.185 --> 02:55:11.445
but like I don't, I don't, I think
3695
02:55:11.465 --> 02:55:13.245
for big expenditures like this,
3696
02:55:13.715 --> 02:55:17.005
that it's not a terrible thing to have it on the agenda also
3697
02:55:17.005 --> 02:55:18.885
so members of the public can see it.
3698
02:55:20.825 --> 02:55:22.125
But, you know,
3699
02:55:22.345 --> 02:55:24.725
but like you said, it can be on the consensus agenda.
3700
02:55:24.785 --> 02:55:26.245
We don't have to discuss unless somebody
3701
02:55:26.245 --> 02:55:27.325
wants to, but it's there.
3702
02:55:28.725 --> 02:55:30.885
I guess I would just think we should be consistent
3703
02:55:31.115 --> 02:55:34.285
with our warrant items, warrant article items then.
3704
02:55:34.665 --> 02:55:37.365
But my preference would be if we had,
3705
02:55:37.465 --> 02:55:38.725
if we're gonna put it on the agenda,
3706
02:55:38.745 --> 02:55:41.045
we should have both warrants on the agenda
3707
02:55:41.305 --> 02:55:43.845
or we should just continue the process that we have.
3708
02:55:44.705 --> 02:55:45.725
But that's my opinion.
3709
02:55:48.595 --> 02:55:50.535
Okay. All right.
3710
02:55:50.995 --> 02:55:55.215
So other comments, questions before, or, or motion?
3711
02:55:56.575 --> 02:55:59.895
I, because we need to, you, you would like us for, to
3712
02:56:00.845 --> 02:56:02.815
approve this or a modified
3713
02:56:02.815 --> 02:56:03.935
version of the, you know, whatever.
3714
02:56:05.405 --> 02:56:06.815
This is more informative. Yeah,
3715
02:56:07.055 --> 02:56:08.055
I don't know if we need a motion.
3716
02:56:08.155 --> 02:56:10.015
We just want people to understand the process.
3717
02:56:10.895 --> 02:56:12.695
'cause it's a little, it's a little bit different
3718
02:56:12.965 --> 02:56:15.935
because this, you know, we have two committees approving a
3719
02:56:16.445 --> 02:56:18.335
basically an accounts payable warrant.
3720
02:56:18.365 --> 02:56:19.415
Yeah. Okay.
3721
02:56:21.355 --> 02:56:24.735
We did, we did prefer a few invoices
3722
02:56:24.995 --> 02:56:27.335
to this. Not for this meeting then.
3723
02:56:27.795 --> 02:56:30.775
Oh, those are here. Yeah.
Not, not ready yet
3724
02:56:31.325 --> 02:56:32.325
Then?
3725
02:56:32.325 --> 02:56:36.135
No. Okay. All right.
3726
02:56:37.075 --> 02:56:38.655
Any policy subcommittee updates?
3727
02:56:40.045 --> 02:56:43.815
Just that we're next meeting on October 30th at 4:00 PM
3728
02:56:44.195 --> 02:56:45.535
Yes, I know how to plan on Friday.
3729
02:56:47.475 --> 02:56:48.895
We are going to do I and J
3730
02:56:48.895 --> 02:56:51.295
but we are not necessarily going to take them in order
3731
02:56:51.715 --> 02:56:53.135
as Desi has stepped up
3732
02:56:53.195 --> 02:56:56.975
and said this group is very important dealing
3733
02:56:57.165 --> 02:56:59.175
with book challenges.
3734
02:56:59.875 --> 02:57:03.735
So if you have anything you'd like to either
3735
02:57:05.445 --> 02:57:08.855
provide to us ahead of time on sections I and J
3736
02:57:09.195 --> 02:57:11.655
or you want to be informed of a certain
3737
02:57:14.285 --> 02:57:15.735
item, let me know.
3738
02:57:16.645 --> 02:57:20.095
Okay. Actually the informed part is Sue styling the
3739
02:57:20.095 --> 02:57:21.095
Agendas.
3740
02:57:21.095 --> 02:57:23.655
Yeah. Okay. Budget subcommittee.
3741
02:57:24.195 --> 02:57:25.895
We also are meeting sometime soon.
3742
02:57:26.055 --> 02:57:28.655
I don't know may I think it's the 28th. 2020 ninth. Okay.
3743
02:57:29.875 --> 02:57:32.895
But I, one thing I'm requesting from the chair is I need a
3744
02:57:32.895 --> 02:57:33.975
way to post minutes.
3745
02:57:35.175 --> 02:57:37.095
I need that process to be clarified
3746
02:57:37.095 --> 02:57:38.655
because we don't have minutes posted
3747
02:57:38.755 --> 02:57:39.855
for the budget subcommittee
3748
02:57:40.715 --> 02:57:43.095
Posted, posted on the town website. Yeah.
3749
02:57:43.155 --> 02:57:45.455
Or the schools are,
We got some of them up there.
3750
02:57:45.455 --> 02:57:46.055
You sent them to me.
3751
02:57:46.275 --> 02:57:47.375
Oh, they are? Yeah. The ones that you sent.
3752
02:57:47.995 --> 02:57:50.215
So what do I do? Just I just keep sending them to you.
3753
02:57:51.075 --> 02:57:52.855
You can send them to, to Trisha. Perfect.
3754
02:57:53.005 --> 02:57:55.255
Okay. Awesome. Thank you for doing that. Yeah.
3755
02:57:56.405 --> 02:58:00.215
Alright with that move
To a adjourn.
3756
02:58:00.515 --> 02:58:02.365
That's a motion by Ms. Collins. And second.
3757
02:58:02.365 --> 02:58:05.765
A second by Mr. Patel. The word. We will do a roll call.
3758
02:58:05.785 --> 02:58:09.405
Dr. Welch. Yes. Ms. Corset? Yes. Ms. Collins? Yes.
3759
02:58:09.705 --> 02:58:13.965
Mr. Patel? Yes. Ms. Brunell? Yes. Dr. Esman? Yes.
3760
02:58:14.345 --> 02:58:16.565
And I'm a yes. 7, 0, 0. Thank you everybody. Good note.